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CENSUS

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Neal Boortz
@ March 10, 2010 8:40 AM
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The government is really gearing up for the Census. In fact, the Census Bureau plans to add 750,000 workers to its payroll by May. This "hiring binge" could affect unemployment numbers by half a percentage point. But a lot of you have been outraged over the fact that the government just sent out 120 million letters to let you know that your Census will be arriving next week. A lot of you have been asking the valuable question: how much is this costing us? Well someone else did the calculations, and they came up with a figure of about $42 million ... just to send letter to inform you that your Census is coming. That's government!


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  • Census Thugs
    So, these "Census" people will be at your home once you arrive home from work with dread locks in their hair, basketball jersey and jean shorts and they don't even give you time to get out the car and BAM there standing at the door of your car and they really expect you to give them information?!?! I think not, if they want this whole thing taken serious then they should atleast send decent people out and not those that look as if they are fresh off the street!
  • 2010 Census
    I am aware that I am under no obligation to answer all those questions, but interestingly, I have received neither a 'it's on its way' letter nor the actual census form. I did, however, receive a postcard telling me to hurry up already and mail my form back. I guess one of these million census workers got lost on the way to my house. Or perhaps since they work for the government they're really not accountable to anyone for the quality or quantity of work they do.
  • AMERICAN FIRST
    I complete number 1. And number 9. As An AMERICAN. I am so tired of all of these hyphenated titles. Both my parents were 100% German decent and their parents as well, does the put me into the Aryan Race category? My blood is 100% German but I AM AN American First
  • yet another lie
    Ten questions???? Not!!! Yeah sure, ten questions if you live in a house ALONE.
    Don't forget to add on seven questions each for every person counted in question 1. And those questions are mostly about race. Sorry nObama and friends, only gonna answer question 1 per the "federal mandate".
  • Helping out the unions
    It is simple. The post office has unions. The post office is running in the red since they are not capable of making a profit. This is how you funnel 42 million dollars to them.
  • Census Man and the Statist Mentality
    Hey, weren't you the guy lathering up Rahm Emmanuel's back in the shower room?

    Sheeple like you disgust me.
  • Census Workers
    Why not just use the Postal people who will not be working saturdays? Who knows the names, addresses and neighborhoods better than the Postman and they are already on the payroll!
  • who recognizes the business value and business relevance of the things the Census Bureau does.
    Except the items answered in the census are supposed to be kept secret.
  • re:Census Man
    Especially at at time when the country does not need to spend more money that we don't have...it's the way it's being handled and the way power was transferred. Why should anyone trust the government with the census? I'll be replacing my tinfoil while I await that answer. That is all...
  • Census Man
    So, none of those data can be had by means other than the government, is that it? Spare me. My census goes directly to the trash.
  • Response to MeFein
    Two things:
    1. I am not a lefty. I am a moderate pro-business upper middle income fiscal conservative (but cultural liberal) who recognizes the business value and business relevance of the things the Census Bureau does.
    2. See if you can find one political candidate whose platform includes the virtual elimination of all Census Bureau data collection activities other than population count. You won't find any. Because only those on the fringe would advocate such a thing.
  • Census Man
    I've heard that lefties like you have to face Washington five time a day and pray. Is that true?
  • Regarding the census
    AP reported that by 2050 Hispanic and African American minorities will be the majority due to the number of children they will have. So if they become the majority, and we middleclass, taxpaying workers become the minority, who is going to pay for all our entitlements we will ask for as a minority?
  • I hate this stuff
    As a libertarian with conservative leanings, this infuriates me the way that the cost when the spentdhrift in conservative clothing, W, refunded everyone $300.00 months early and we spent twice as much by mailing the tax refunds twice, except it cost even more.

    This not a "but Bush" this is an "aw crap, more of the same" complaint.
  • census letter
    They sent the letters out so BHO can claim over 100,000 (postal) jobs were "saved"
    This is but a small part of the $325 (?) million allocated to ADVERTISE the census.
    And congress wonders why "We, the People" are just a little ticked off.
  • @John S.
    Yepper, I plan to do the same thing.

    To Census Man...If the Feds really want to know that stuff, they can ask for people to fill out a VOLUNTARY questionaire. As most of us will decline, they will have to find another way to "stack" the districting "deck" to favor THEIR desires. A minor inconvenience.
  • sencus sincus sinus anus..........
    just for some fun.......

    http://trippstake.com

    then try.....

    http://michellemalkin.com
  • Re: $mooth Operator “ I urge everyone to reply "Other" on the race question and fill in "American" in Section 9. “
    Agreed, I was just going to post that, but you beat me to it.
    :-)
  • Re: Advertising with NASCAR in Atlanta
    And I hate to say that I secretly wished someone had put the car in the wall! No offense to driver Greg Biffle of the Roush-Fenway #16 Ford which normally should carry 3M instead of wasting my tax dollars.
  • @SFCRet
    Both the "it's coming" letter and the American Community Survey itself had, "Federal law requires that this form be filled out and returned" on them.

    Be nice to know which federal law that's referring to.

    I'm going to do the same thing on the census that I did with that stupid survey: Put a "1" in the "how many" box and mail it in.
  • census silliness
    What, getting the actual census in the mail isn't a clue that it's here? It's like the utility sending me a letter telling me my bill is coming soon.

    Guess it just shows how stupid we've become as a nation.
  • census
    Good for you Census Man.

    We also want to know how many times you have sex with your "significant other", if that "significant other" is male or female, if you use protection.

    We can use that information to craft proper healthcare legislation, study trends of STD's and make sure areas showing higher rates are studied to see if more free clinics are needed, or the residents need better education, or if a wider selection of condoms should be available, maybe even for free if you tell us your household income and it falls below 3000% of the poverty level or you live in a depressed area.

    We also know if you do that with the lights on and if you use CFL's so we can figure out the proper tax you'll pay for your carbon footprint.
  • Advertising with NASCAR in Atlanta
    Anyone know how much the CENSUS 2010 paid to be on the hood in the Atlanta NASCAR race this past week?
  • 42 Million for the "pre census" letters.
    Well, I suggest we use our representatives methods for double dipping....take it out of their allowance for commnications - oops sorry used your part of the taxpayers money to send out "pre census" letters, nothing left for your re-election mailings....oh that doesn't matter anyway they are voting all of your Arses out anyway!!!!!
  • Why is 25% of the 2010 Census Form...
    ...taken up by questions about race?

    I urge everyone to reply "Other" on the race question and fill in "American" in Section 9.

    I'm stunned that no one's yet pointed out that this will lead to the democrats gerrymandering congressional districts.....disgusting.
  • Got My Letter
    I got a letter yesterday from the Census. I believe the words "fair share" were used 3 times in the letter & made me want to puke!

    I will do nothing more than simply providing the # of persons that live in my household. The government will receive absolutely no additional information from me.
  • The Census is a good thing except to the nuts
    For those of you completely opposed to the government ever collecting any information from you, you are from this point forward barred from using any government data (a great deal of which comes directly or indirectly from the Census Bureau, which often collects data on behalf of other agencies) in any political argument you make. For example, you may not cite unemployment statistics and you may not cite household income statistics.

    Furthermore, your business (or your employer) may not use any government data in deciding where to open new locations, where to target advertising, where to build a new distribution center, or how to optimize its supply chain.

    As you counsel your children on what course of study they may wish to pursue in college, no more referencing government data regarding the size and growth prospects of different industries and occupations. Same goes for planning your investment strategy.

    And if you move into a new metropolitan area, you may not have the benefit of comparing and contrasting the various suburbs on various demographic data before deciding where to buy a house.

    The fact is, it is no accident that the Census Bureau is part of the Department of Commerce. The collection, synthesis, and provision of statistics is one of the most pro-business things the government does. If business and industry had to do it all on their own (replicating each other's efforts), they would have far less money to invest in growing their businesses.

    Even pro-business, small government people acknowledge that there are some things the government should and can do in the name of economic efficiency, and the Census Bureau and its activities fit that category . . . except to the radical fringe paranoid people who live in daily fear that the gubbament is comin to get them and take their guns too.
  • Letter is OK, The Commercials Are Infuriating
    OK, I seem to recall the constitution saying something about counting the people every ten years to allocate congressional districts. Why do ALL the commercials talk about "fairly distributing the wealth." What part of enumerated powers do these people not understand? It isn't in the constitution for the federal government to redistribute wealth "fairly" or otherwise. The "general welfare" has nothing to do with INDIVIDUAL welfare, but the courts and politicians don't seem to know the difference.

    The longer I live the more I think Ronald Reagan was correct when he said that it wasn't that liberal are uneducated, it is just that so much of what they know isn't true. (I would have quoted it, but I didn't take the time to go look up his actual phrasing of the sentiment.)
  • @John S.
    The census as written in the Constitution requires that the people be counted every ten years. ONLY counted. That survey has no legal standing and the questions in it should only be answered if you WANT to. There is NO federal mandate.
  • BOHICA
    What does the EPA have to do with the 2010 Census? Income Redistribution ! I'm calling it "Reparations on Steroids." Emphasis below is all mine!
    bill

    All Hands Email-Archive

    This message is being sent to all EPA Employees.

    MEMORANDUM

    SUBJECT: 2010 Census – What You Can Do to Ensure It’s Success

    FROM: Craig E. Hooks, Assistant Administrator
    Office of Administration and Resources Management

    TO: All EPA Employees

    I am writing to you today to seek your assistance in helping to ensure that the 2010 Census is successful. One way you can do this, is to make sure that you take the time to fill out the 2010 Census Questionnaire that should arrive at your home around March 15, and is requested to be returned by April 1, 2010, Census Day. This 2010 Census is the shortest form yet, with 10 questions that should take you only 10 minutes to answer. 10 Questions !???. Whatever happened to just one "How many people live in your household"? Our Constitution mandates that we count the population. NOT the condition of the population !

    As you probably know, the U.S. Constitution mandates a Census of the population every 10 years for both citizens and non-citizens. Census data determines the number of seats each state will have in the U. S. House of Representatives. [Here comes the code for Income Redistribution or Reparations on Steroids as I call it bill]: On a more personal level, Census data can be used to determine the allocation of federal funds for public health, neighborhood improvements, transportation, education, senior services and many other vital community services – issues that impact all of our daily lives. Accurate Census data is critical, especially for the underserved and economically disadvantaged communities where environmental justice issues are so critically important.

    Census data is very important to EPA. One of the many ways we use this information is to help support the Administrator’s priority of [More code meaning Income Redistribution or Reparations on Steroids]“expanding the conversation on environmentalism and working for environmental justice.” For example, Census data along with health statistics, are used to ensure that the most current and meaningful information is made available to the pubic through EPA’s Envirofacts database.

    If your work here at EPA affords you an opportunity to communicate with stakeholders, ESPECIALLY THOSE IMPACTED BY ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ISSUES, I would encourage you to promote the value of filling out the 2010 Census Questionnaire. It is short, it is confidential, and it is very important for helping EPA ensure that we are protecting the environment and pubic health of all residents in this nation.

    So I encourage you to “Take 10” and fill out the 2010 Census. And don’t forget to encourage your neighbors, friends, fellow employees and EPA’s stakeholders to “Take 10” as well. We want to make sure that everyone is counted.
  • come on
    Sending intro letter is a good business practice used by some of the best run companies. If it reduces visits 1%, it pays for itself.

    Fill it out, some great great grandchild in another country will love to see the info one day.
  • WTF?
    They're going to hire an ADDITIONAL 750k people? The total will be around a million?

    Look, we all know there's an estimate of a bit over 300 million people; do they really need 1 person for every 300, especially when most homes will have an average of like 3 people? And for this they're going to work 19 hours a week for six weeks?

    It's just unbelievable.
  • Keep the Census Constitutional
    Everyone please join me in restricting the Census to its Constitutional purpose of determining the allocation of Representatives. I will return the census form blank and include a cover letter indicating the number of persons who live in my residence. This is the only information they have a right to know. The federal government has no authority to require us to give out personal information.
  • My response:
    1. n\a. n/a. n/a. n/a. n/a. n/a. n/a...Oops, I see a trend emerging here.
  • Steve O...O Foolish One
    The "0" obviously indicates what we already knew--you're a card-carrying member of Team Zero.

    For anyone to actually state that it's a "good idea" to mail a letter stating that a letter's in the mail....

    Please, even my 3-year old knows that's s-t-u-p-i-d. And you want these idiots to run our healthcare too, I imagine....figures.

    Frankly, I am beginning to better grasp the why's and how's of how a confederacy of fools is apparently thriving in this country.

    Thanks for beclowning yourself once again in front of all of us, O Foolish One
  • American Community Survey
    Did anyone else get the pre-census American Community Survey? Back in January I got a letter telling me it was coming. Then it showed up the NEXT DAY.

    It was just like the census form but full of asinine questions such as, "Do you have a range or oven in your house?" and "Do you have trouble walking?" The thing was around 20 pages of questions.

    I filled out the date and put a "1" in the box for how many people live at my address and mailed it back to them.

    About two weeks ago I got ANOTHER full copy of the census/survey with a letter that said, "In case you missed it, please fill this out and return it."

    This other survey, like the census, is mandatory under federal law.
  • Typical
    Following just sent to GA's two senators and my representative: "On behalf of taxpayers everywhere, please extend appropriate congratulations to the "rocket scientist" that made the decision to spend over $40 million to mail out a notice that the census forms would be mailed out in a week. That's brilliant, and just what I would expect at a time when the government is having to borrow almost every dime it spends. But then, in the mind of the current government, what's a few million compared to the trillions of debt that's already been created. Surely this individual is in line for some prestigious award in the very near future."
  • Another beef...
    An even bigger beef with this letter was the fact that they are trying to encourage you to complete the census so that "your community" will get its "fair share" of government money. And that if you don't return the census, your community won't get its fair share.

    No mention was made of the actual Constitutional purpose of the census - to determine seating in the House of Representatives, and to apportion direct taxes. Nope. It's all about how your community won't get as much of the money that government has taxed/seized from the productive members of American society. The census is now literally all about how stolen loot will get distributed.
  • Advance letter a good idea
    How much money is the government spending to complete the census? An extra $42 million does not sound like a lot of money in order to increase the response rate of the census letter.

    And if some people received multiple letters, and other didn't receive any, it still doesn't mean that the letters were a bad idea. Given the number of recipients, that's inevitable.
  • Handouts
    At a recent visit to the library here in Michigan, There was a table manned by at least 3 folks plugging the census... Could have been volunteers I guess, I didn't think to ask. They could have even been city workers, I suppose. But they were handing out swag bags - a nice canvass tote with the census logo. The bag contained three propaganda flyers, a pencil, pad and refrigerator magnet. All were imprinted with the census logo and the city name. How's that for your government at work.
  • Got mine yesterday
    I open to fill it out only to find out it's a letter tell me that it will come in 2 weeks. What a waste of my tax dollars. what a ship of fool we have just send the real thing so i can piss on it before i send it back.
  • Question...hopefully someone will have the answer...
    Good question Rick. I suspect that many of these workers will be connected with Acorn and with Prezbo's help have been consistently gainfully unemployed. I would venture to say that the cigs and cheap wine pay they received during the campaign will continue even during their stint as a "census worker". Then they can reset to another 2 years of unemployment.
  • I Hate...
    the fact that they use the words "fair share" in every commercial and letter.
  • Nice of them to spend money and then ask for handouts
    As I have mentioned in the past, I own and operate a small AM radio station in SW VA.

    It galls me to hear of the huge money being spent to advertise this census, while simultaneously receiving requests for my station to air free "PSA's" advertising for census jobs.

    Thanks again for all you do, Uncle Sam
  • ON NO THE CENSUS
    The census always shows the true insane paranoia of the conservatives.
  • Question...hopefully someone will have the answer...
    So let's say you've been unemployed for a period of time and you are receiving unemployment benefits. You take the "temporary" job as a census worker. I would assume your unemployment benefits would be stopped. So do your unemployment benefits start up again when the "temporary" census job has been completed?
  • Efficiency
    Just to add insult to injury, my girlfriend received a total of FOUR letters to tell her the census was on the way! Two of the letters were received after she had already received her census, filled it out, and mailed it back. I on the other hand have yet to receive a single Census related document at my address. Way to go Census Bureau!
  • ONLY IN GOVERNMENT
    Our government spends huge sums over our money on an add campaign to solicit us to fill out a census so the government can give our communities back huge sums of our money that it has taken from us at the point of a gun. They call it getting "our fair share". How about just let us keep our money.
  • Census Banners
    In our town square, they've hung banners from the light poles advertising the census. I'm only guessing, but it sounds like a typical use of stimulus money--stimulize the (democrat) banner manufacturers.
  • Census Letters
    It's even better than the fact they sent letters that the census was coming. At least in our case, they sent us seven of the letters. Somehow, they listed our house as a house AND a multi-family dwelling, so they sent us a copy of the letter to our address, then 6 more to the exact same address, except after our street number, they had added 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, 3A, 3B. I'm thinking it might be fun if we actually wind up getting 7 copies of the form, too.
  • The "advance letter" saves money in the long run
    As is explained in the link (click on "sent out 120 million letters"), there is a positive Return On Investment of this initiative. The advance notification helps to improve response rates, minimizing the degree of expensive follow up required from non-responders.

    I think most of you would agree that spending $100 today to save $500 tomorrow is a good idea. Most of the people who linger on this site would want to minimize government spending.

    I suppose some of you will say that this advance letter has no effect on you. Well, good for you. But the fact is advance notification is a proven "greasing the wheels" technique. Sort of like how political advertising on TV surely has no effect on you, but the fact is it does in the aggregate, or candidates wouldn't do it.
  • Super Bowl Commercial
    How about the commercial that aired during the 1st quarter of the Super Bowl? It had lots of familiar faces but the only one I could name was Ed Begley, Jr (enviro-weenie).

    That was just the first in a series of commercials about the census being a 'snapshot' of the USA (America is rather vague, since there are N & S Americas, a CENTRAL America & a couple dozen countries between them all).
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