I am not, nor have ever been "moderate". Reference any of my previous posts to see. I cannot stand Obama, nor his cronies and think he has sent the US on a path to destruction. What I merely stated was the by saying Obama wants to destroy the country, you turn people off. It is not because they may disagree with you, but because they know Obama doesn't desire America to be destroyed. Obama may wish to change America (albeit fundamentaly) so that it doesn't resemble what I (and so many others love). However, to him that is not destroying the US, instead it is improving it (misguided as it sounds). When you yell that Obama wants to destroy the US, people infer (speakers imply, listeners infer) different meanings. So while you may be implying a message, i.e. "After Odumbo is done, the US will cease to exist as you know it", others hear "After Odumbo is done, all US citizens will be dead or slaves of another country." These are two very different meanings, and two very different images. When people infer the extreme, they recognize it as rhetoric and stop listening/shut down.

As for me upset with the left regarding their rhetoric. Son, you have no idea what i get upset over. When you use claims such as "NEVER" you only display your ignorance. Someone else feels that way as well... I wonder who it could be... oh yea, NEAL! I suggest you strip from your vocabulary words such as "always" "never" and "every time". Time to remove assumptions about someone, and learn to critically think about the point someone is making.

I can't believe I'm sticking up for banks but, hey, you pro-big govenment types ever hear of slaying the goose that layed the golden egg? Admonish CEO's for not running a tight ship, question some of their practices and treatment of customers but make them pay a tax as punishment? I'm sorry I can't recall seeing that in the Constitution. I'm waiting for a real life John Galt to step up and say, "Mr. President, in 3 years, you'll be the answer to a trivia question and I'll be on my boat in Bermuda...you really want a pi$$ing match?"

> did vote for Obama...but the deal was clinched when McCain put politics before country . I was also quite alienated by the conservative whispering campaign that Obama was a Muslim (and by the way, so what if he were) and some of the thinly veiled racism<

Thanks for making my point. Your true convictions are so weak that you decided to do a 180 on those convictions all because of a "so-called whispering campaign about Bozo being a Muzzie." First off, the McCain campaign was so pathetic and hands off that they were even afraid to bring up the lunatic reverend and the domestic terrorist Ayers, so I have no idea where you are getting this "muslim" campaign from. It was never an issue.

You say you believe in conservative fiscal responsibility and don't like unions or lawyers or big gov't at all. Those are core beliefs that serve as a foundation for anyone's political leanings. YET, you were willing to throw that entire foundation of core beliefs down the drain because of some far off rumor about him being a Muzzie???? That is all it took for you to do a 180 on your core values?? That is all it took for you to vote for the biggest leftist candidate in the history of this country? A completely uncaccomplished, unqualified, community organizer with a history of the absolute most radical associates one could imagine?? That is where your logic is insane. A stupid rumor (that even wasn't started by campaign) was more important to you than the actual issues and core values you supposedly have.

That is the equivalent of a supposed life long Christian, whose core values are centered around his Christian beliefs, decides to change his entire core belief system and join a Satanist cult just because he heard a rumor that one baptist said something mean about a non-believer.

The sad thing is that each election hinges on spineless lost moderates like you. Even sadder, these moderates are viewed as intellectuals!! You know the ones, who a week before the election are asked by a reporter who they intend on voting for and they say, "Well, you know (portraying a very intellectual and thoughful pose) I am still weighing the candidates and analyzing the issues." Some genius, you moderates are. At least the libtards believe in something, albeit it is absolute bankrupt illogical and dangerous dogma,at least they take a stand.

One final point to display your stupidity. It's amazing how you moderates NEVER ever get outraged by the rhetoric from the left. Huh? Some of the most vile hateful rhetoric comes from the left, especially these last 8 years, from calling our military killers and terrorists, etc., and yet you give them a mulligan. Meanwhile, a conservative says something 1/50th as extreme as the average liberal diatribe, and you are willing to completely change your vote and overhaul your entire belief system. You are a fool.

I understanding where you coming from on Neil's Rhetoric but to say that Moderates would be scare and not vote for a Conservatives or Republican because of that is one of the main problem with our electorate. I don't agree with some of the words Neil uses but thankfully I am blessed with the gift of reason and analysis. I know how to differentiate reality from his over the top words. Frankly, I have no problem with his over the top rhetoric that some may use to think we (the right or conservatives) are crazy because somebody got to do it since I and most conservatives do not use those kinds of words.

If a moderate or an independent does not vote for a conservative or republican because of rhetoric such as the one Neil uses than that person is what is wrong with our electorate system which is voting on feelings and emotions instead of the facts and what is best for our country in the long run.

This is not Obama pandering to the wealth envy crowd. This is Obama taking advantage for the crowd that wants revenge on the Banks that have screwed them personally and screwed the U.S. Taxpayer as a whole. I lost my job because these aholes threw our economy into the sewer, and are now paying themselves handsomely for it. This isn't about wealth envy, this is about revenge.

Proof that he is anti-capitalistic at his very core is the fact that he has never run a business that operates for a profit. Therefore, how can he grasp the simple concepts of lending power and future lending by the banks?

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Whether Obama destroys this country by design or through ignorance, the result will be the same.

...a life time supply of bobbleheaded voodo dolls,custom made in the image of your favorite enemy...an antique 500lb.cursed cast iron pig to be displayed in the feeding trough of congress(all must kneel&kiss the pork)...a new home there for the U.N.,complete with tin walls & thatched roof.some assembly required(air conditioning,electricity and indoor plumbing not included)....the control of Haiti's vast army of machette welding undead zombies...free interorgation method training from Haiti's elite prison personel(bring your own tire)...a promise not to advance their nuclear weapons program,which currently has collected over 200lbs. of radium from old watch faces left by the French....and lastly, 2 million highly un-trained or skilled immigrants to take"jobs american just won't do" and vote democrat.If we act now they might turn over their navy(5 rafts made from bleach bottles) and airforce(you really don't wanna know but lets just say it involves kites,fireworks&scrap tin cans)

didn't i say "after the revolution over"? do you you how to read?

booger, what if the man is a vegetarian? :O)

you have to be prepared for all sorts of things. by not going with money is not being prepared for anything. i would buy lead 99% of the time and buy silver 1% of the time.

all ya want..the bottom line is there will never be any return to the people period..it will be going to politicians and government lawyers..ya know those same type of lawyers like al gore making tons of cash on the global climate change gimmick by way of carbon credits..want to invest in something set up one of these ficticious polluting companies and sell youre unused carbon credits to a corporation like ge.

If we've got “Concern trolls” out and about whining about talk like this, the concept has to be starting to sink in with people.

As others have said, you concern trolls have to educate yourself on the whole Cloward-Piven and Saul “Lewinsky” strategies.

You also need to educate yourself on the Trillion dollar “Stimulus”, the exploding national debt and the disingenuous shell game National Socialists like Harry Reid are pulling on healthcare.
Did you concern trolls hear about all that? It was in the all papers.

Did you hear about Social securities upcoming bankruptcy?

Did you hear about the Obamacare monstrosity that will also overburden the economy?

Did you hear that the national socialists want to do another stimulus?

Who knows what else the Statists have planned to bankrupt the country.

I will respond to your questions but will strike a more civil and subdued and respectful tone than you, my friend.

I don't have a formal definition ofmoderate other than to say that moderates find themselves aligning with conservatives on some issues and liberals on others. They recognize that important matters of public policy and foreign affairs are complex. They consider a candidate's background and positions more so than a candidate's party affiliation.

Speaking for myself, I would say I align with what may be termed "the liberal position" on many of the cultural issues like gay marriage, reproductive freedom, and end of life choice (e.g., Terry Schiavo) . . though on the other hand I am not for marijuana legalization.

I would say I align myself with the conservative side on issues of fiscal responsibility and the need to hold citizens responsible for the choices they make in life. I would also say I am conservative in my general attitude against labor unions, especially public employee unions. I also can't stand trial lawyers, and accordingly have never liked John Edwards.

I would say I am progressive in terms of embracing science and technology, and I have little use for bible thumpers who reject the tenets of modern science and modern medicine.

In terms of foreign policy, I would say I am an "America First" kind of person, whcih is neither a liberal nor a conservative position. I reject the idea that America has to spend billions of dollars and sacrifice the blood of its own people to clean up messes all over the world, and in the process making enemies and intensifying anti-American animosity.

I did vote for Obama. I was leaning towards him as the summer of 2008 unfolded, but the deal was clinched when McCain put politics before country by appointing an absolutely unqualified bumbling intellectual midget on the ticket (please don't try the tired lame argument that Palin was more qualified than Obama). I was also quite alienated by the conservative whispering campaign that Obama was a Muslim (and by the way, so what if he were) and some of the thinly veiled racism.

Had McCain picked Mitt Romney, a competent, accomplished leader with experience in both the private and public sector, I may have come over to McCain.

So you add all that together, what would you prefer I call myself? Do you put me in your category (a) or (b) (a false dichotomy if I ever heard one)? Am I supposed to adopt every Rush Limbaugh position on every issue, or be damned?

Any bank or institution, public or private that received taxpayer TARP money should be taxed (including bonuses for their "talented" executives), until every penny has been paid back to the taxpayers.

And if the banks pass on this tax as fees on my credit cards, I'll just use cash just like people used to do. And I have no problems going using my credit union for my loans, checking accounts, deposits, etc. They give you far better service, for far less fees than do the big banks.

I took my money out of the stock market 2 years ago and started buying land, guns, and ammo

this man was endorsed by the bilderbeger society, as was former president bill clinton.obama and hillary clinton were seen attending the last bilderbegers meeting.we are screwed..educate yourselves and the truith will surprise you

The sky IS falling for the 20% of Americans who are un or underemployed, thanks to BO and the Democrats.

Yeah, that is smarty. Only dimwits invest in the stock market. HAHAHAHA. Where do you come up w/ this stuff?

Once again, the bed wetting whiny liberal knuckle dragger posts another idiotic remark. Obama promised us that the economy would not rise above 8%. Today, it's 10% and he actually had the galled to blame Bush for his failures. Only a dimwit would judge how the country is doing by the Dow Jones Avg and not how the value of the Dollar or Job Claims are.

or anti-corporatist? because we haven't a capitalist economy in a long time. that's goes for free market also.

Ignore Tre'

I'm glad to finally see someone calling a spade a spade.

Obama and his entire administration are a bunch of Marxists who are out to destroy the economy just so the government can come in and save the day.

Thanks, Neal, for calling it like you see it.

What's worse? That Obama wants this, or that some people believe it?

Not sorry to dispute the talkmaster, but this retro-active penalty sounds more like a "D & P" show. The "Political Class" is acutely aware of the campaign money from Wall St., K St. and privately held companies. BO can stomp on this stump all he wants and then reduce the impact thru new tax code. It's Fraudulent to perpetrate the idea that this administration and congress will actually "bite the hands that feed them".

Boortz,

You don't help us when you make statements such as "He is dedicated to the destruction of America's free market economy." While Obama's policy is not friendly, and I do not believe that his policies are good, we cannot use such language. To suggest that Obama wants to destroy America and the economy is infantile at best. Look, I don't like Obama, but he is not as deviant as you suggest. He is not sitting in the oval office saying "Well Rahm, what is our next step to ultimate destruction of the United States?" No, he may be deluded, but he still believes that he is doing what is best for the country. Just like we didn't care for individuals claiming that Bush was out to destroy America, or that he had some ulterior motive, please don't do the same. You should be above such infantile games.