http://www.themudflats.net/2009/11/03/new-yorks-23rd-district-discuss/

""Thought I’d share a newly developed recipe for Elephant Upside-Down Surprise Cake.

First you take a congressional district that has had Republican representation in the U.S. House of Representatives since before the Civil War, then add a teabag, pour on some hot steamin’ Sarah Palin, add a squeeze of Rush Limbaugh, then carefully strain the mixture until there is no trace of the moderate Republican. Then just wait and watch. Pretty soon you’ll have….Surprise! A Democrat!

There you go folks. Dems across the land can now send thank you notes to Our Lady of Perpetual Meddling. Can’t wait to find out whose fault THIS one is going to be.""

Okay listen up!
If the people who can't afford insurance and the people who have been turned down by insurance for pre-existing conditions could be covered, WITHOUT the creation of a brand new governmental bureaucracy, would you be agreeable to try it?

It's a yes or no.
By Joyce M/Blythe

Do you libs want health care or just another government bureaucracy? Do you know that in the House bill there are 111 NEW boards/departments? Maybe you figure it's just another stimulus bill. Pathetic.

OK, your response to my last post dodges the whole point of what I was saying. For the 14th time, tell me where the talk radio faction is not in line with conservative core values and issues. Respond to that instead of responding with childish like cries of "You called me a name." Answer my questions, SIR (how's that?).

A lot of them push Statism on their students because they don't know how world outside of academia really works, trust I know how they are, I see it every day.

Guess he should Know when he's violating the Constitution, right?

Curious that you ignored the rest of that posting?

Listen up clown, Dede Scuzzbucket was a liberal who put an "R" next to her name. She had backing from Planned Parenthood, far-left blogger Markos Zuniga, National Education Association and card-check promoting trade unions. The fact that she was booted off the ticket is a victory for conservatives. Better a donkey behaving like a donkey than a donkey in an elephant suit making an a@# out of the republican party.

The GOP leadership learned it can no longer afford to promote RINO's like Scuzzbucket because it will backfire on them. How is that a defeat for talk radio, which excoriated Ms. Scuzzbucket?

Either way, congressional seat NY-23 will be re-apportioned and disappear after the census. What is important here is that conservatives WON and repudiated RINOS like Newt Gingrich.

Ronald Reagan said it best in 1985: "A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.”

To quote a conservative journalist: "The Republican National Committee and National Republican Congressional Committee threw an estimated $900,000 down the toilet for a candidate whose core views and political alliances undermined conservatism’s fundamental beliefs in limited government from day one. It was a reckless expenditure of the GOP base’s hard-earned money and a bitter tuition bill for a teachable moment on the perils of political expediency.

The days when immoderate political operatives and feckless Beltway opportunists could define “moderation” by their own warped yardsticks without pushback are over."

Now that pretty much sums it up.

FOLKS..........FOLKS..........don't get all 'cited.....sum of you are countin' on repubicans to do good stuff.......

here's what I gotta say 'bout dat.......keep an eye on them.....never forget they are scumsuckin' politicians!!!!

the on'y good politician is a dead one and you gotta keep an eye on them.....

"Let's talk about Grant's political experience before becoming President, or Taylor's, or Eisenhower's."

You need to consider that these men had excutive experince in the military managing men, who I might add, carried guns. I'd put Grant, Taylor, or Eisenhower against Obama anyday

Let's see who won house seats; 2 Dems, one from California and one in upstate New-York that will be voting in the House, but the two Repubs that won governorships wouldn't be voting on anything in the House! I'd say the Dems one big!
Heck the House seat in New York had been held by the Repubs since around the 1870!
Keep it up teabaggers,you're doing great in trying to win back the House!

DC Politicos: "Oh no the Republicans and right wingers are getting restless, there are talks of revolution and us losing our jobs."
Right Wingers: "Kick them out.. Bull*&^* stimulus and healthcare.."
Money Masters: "Throw them a bone to silence them, give them a couple governors, they will go home happy thinking they won something and that the illusion of choice still exists. Then we can contiue our plans of global dominance while they are high on their wins."
DC Politicos: "It's a referendum on Obama"
White House: "This means nothing about my performance."
Dumb Masses: "See we were right, our votes sounded off clear and it matters"

Anyone else following this script it is good stuff. Better than Reality TV or Sitcoms.

A resounding (wait for it)...













"Where's the bathroom?"

New York has 29 congressional districts. As of today, the state is represented by 27 Democrats. As recently as a few years ago, Dems had "only" 21 seats from New York.

What's more, New England, made up of six states, has 22 congressional districts. Currently, the region is represented by 22 Democrats.

So, north of the Pennsylvania border, there 51 congressional districts representing 34 million people. Republicans have a whopping two seats.

i can't believe yall are deriding obama's job as a Constitutional law professor. or as a community organizer.
that gets liberals ammunition to go after your ex-presidents pre-president jobs. what was he? oh yeah, he was a politician in texas. to quote butt neckid:

1. politicians are scum....
2. politicians are scum....
3. politicians are scum....

I love how liberals are trying to spin this. I will take two governor's mansions over an upstate congressional race every day and twice on Sundays.

And if you think for a second that Owens is going to hold this seat next year, you're nuts. He HAS to moderate his votes to even stand a chance. And even then, it won't be enough.

So, yes. I'll take the leaders of the executive branches in VA and NJ over a neutered congress critter every time. Every. Time.

Yesterday is just a harbinger of what's to come for the donks. The house will revert to the republicans in 2010.

The one-term kenyan imposter will be removed from office in 2012, thank God. He still can't do the right thing and support our toops in Afghanistan, despite all his bluster during the campaign. He's a phony and people see it now.

Noot has been a disappointment since his cozy couch tet-a-tet sipping the "Klimate-KollAid" with the queen 'B' Nancy, discussing and agreeing on need to curb 'glow-ball' warming.

The fact that Noot was spewing the demCong party line just shows that when people spend more than 1 year inside the beltway, they become brain-dead because they are infected with so disease that makes them think they know best what the people need and want.

Noot is a "has-been" politician turned political whore/pundit, that will say and do what ever it takes to 'go along to get along' and further his personal agenda.

What we need is less Noots running around trying to blow smoke up every bodies a$$, so he can feel important. Hey noot, its time you disappeared into the twilight of your life and go fishing, golfing, bird-watching,...what ever it takes to keep you out of the public.

I hope conservatives (and Republicans) learn the lesson of the NY23 election results. Very disappointing how Mr. Newt chose party over principle when endorsing the most liberal candidate of the three. What happened to "no pastels"?

Guess he should Know when he's violating the Constitution, right?

And let's be clear, with all the governmental control the Left would like to place on the individual, they last thing they should be called is “Liberal”.

That label implies they favor 'Liberty', clearly that isn't the case, that is the Left's Biggest Lie.

Question is, why do they recoil at the label “Statists”?

So now the blue dog Democrats and other fence sitters on Health care reform and tax-and-cap and 2nd stimulus get a peek in what is in store for them in 2010.

This IS a referendum on the Democratic agenda. This IS the reason that the Dems had hoped to push through all of their pie-in-the-sky legislation by (ahem) August. All of the liberal muscle of the Democratic Party could not save Corzine, and this does not bode well of the Democrats or their Liberal agenda.

A Health care bill that doesn't violate the Constitution or turn over our health care choices to politicians can be passed, and would cost substantially less than $1.2 trillion. It's time for the Dems to stop dreaming about getting their hands in other people's pockets and figure out what can be done without breaking the bank. The same is true with tax and cap. And if any of that stimulus money is left, they should figure out how to create real and lasting job growth with it.... rather than how many temporary jobs they can claim as "created or saved".

"The reason we constantly bring up the community organizer thing is that is the only job the man has actually ever had outside of being a permanent campaigner. "

So 12 years of being a constitutional law professor and being in practice as a civil rights lawyer don't count as real jobs?

The conservatives get even more desperate. I guess after the smackdown they got in NY yesterday still stings.

The flap over the absentee ballots (was ACORN involved?) I am sure was a big factor.

But we'll take it!

Christie winning, IMO, had little to do with Obama. I believe that this notion is just smoke and mirrors. NJ has had Republican governors before so it's no big deal. Christie's election had more to do with NJ corruption and taxes than anything else.

Neal, I was glad to hear you make a distinction between classical liberalism and the statism that passes for liberalism these days. Having the media call big-government types "liberals" is harmful. I teach at a reasonably good college and English majors and anthropologists hunger after the intellectual respetability that they think they get from parroting the media-ordained "liberal" line.

Joyce, help me out here. Apparently you have no problem with talk-show hosts referring to liberals as:

Communists
Socialists
Marxists
Nazis
Statists
Cowards
Losers
Moochers
UnAmerican
Appeasers
Scum
Etc., etc., etc.

But if someone refers to ultra-conservatives as "teabaggers" (due, in part, for their propensity to mail tea bags to members of Congress at the urging of Glen Beck, among others) them's fightin' words. What am I missing?

The Republicans have held NY-23 for over a century. Over the last 24 years, Democrats have never been able to get more than 38% of the vote. (See voting results history below.) The Republicans would surely have kept the seat this year. But when the TeaBaggers put in an ultra-conservative candidate, look what happens, the DEMOCRATS WIN!

So, all you TeaBaggers, please, please, please keep it up. Keep kicking out your RINO candidates and replace them with ultra-conservatives who are sure to lose the general election. It'll ensure that the Democrats stay in power on the national level for decades to come, but at least you'll be idealogically pure! Isn't that what counts? lol

2008 - 35%
2006 - 37%
2004 - 29%
2002 - 0%
2000 - 23%
1998 - 21%
1996 - 25%
1994 - 18%
1992 - 21%
1990 - 38%
1988 - 25%
1986 - 0%
1984 - 29%

"I love how conservative crybabies can do nothing better than make fun of the fact that Obama was a community organizer."

No Brian/Jimmy/whowever you have it all wrong. The reason we constantly bring up the community organizer thing is that is the only job the man has actually ever had outside of being a permanent campaigner.

We would love to ridicule him on something else, but when your track record is never actually doing the job, just running for the next position, or in the Senate and the Presidency it is merely one of voting present, there isn't much to go on.

But we don't have to worry much. If the community organizer keeps to his track record, chances are he won't run for re-election, instead he'll just start campaigning to be the next Secretary General of the UN.

>>>>>This time is....I'll spend all weekend campaigning for a democrat but Tuesday I'll watch basketball not the polls.... Just add it to the list of his contradictions...hello any democrat wise to his ways yet? Hello??... <<<<

Exactly. Just like when he was asked about Van Jones. Just like when he was asked about the ACORN videos, he said that he really hasn't given it much thought as there are major issues to worry about!!

hurray for the RED, WHITE, and BLUE!

apparently the VA and NJ gubs were local races that hussein himself paid no attention to... (riiiight)

and now a comment from a newsvine (msnbc) reader:
"All politics are local! But the utra-crazy Fox driven Republican wing lost big in Distric 23, while moderate Republicans won in VA and NJ."

(the typos are his, not mine)

In the South Park spirit , here is my flashing caption under this statement:

"THIS IS WHAT LIBERALS REALLY BELIEVE"

Why are you putting so much emphasis on racism during the elections, especially Atlanta. Shut the heck up and let the voters vote! You're the racists!

Hoffman WAS an economic choice, Scozzafava voted for every spending bill that came her way.

And TruthIgnorer, if you are going to use ignorant terms such as "teabagger" you can just kiss my rear end!!!

I told you yesterday, short term pain for long term gain. RINO's learned a lesson from NJ. And you can bet Dems are not resting easy.

teabaggers? the gays dont have anything to do with this...

The Democrats lose two meaningless state races, but pick up another Congressional seat (one that had been in the hands of Republicans for over 100 years.)

That's another vote for health care reform! Thank you, teabaggers!

But do the people deserve it? There's a lot of talk about how the politicians don't get it, but what about the people? The people put these people in office in the first place, and the people only seem interested in supporting freedom and liberty when something huge is hurting our country.

Trust me, in 2010 this is what will happen. The people will briefly reject Hollywood and the media and put Republicans in office, and then the Republicans will slow down rate of decline into socialism and they'll move on to superficial things.

We all know the 3mbws and Snarkybirds of this country are easily controlled by the DNC's marketing wings (i.e. Hollywood, entertainment rags, etc), but Conservatives are almost as easy to manipulate and I saw a lot of it here yesterday in the thread against Palin.

Many conservatives rant against Washington insiders, career politicians, party loyalty above all else, and the leftwing media that greatly assists the democrats. Palin comes along and is not an insider, is not a career politician, and is not a party loyalist. Yet what do most conserative do? They attack her with the same "US Weekly" level of sophistication applied by the left.

In short, the anti-Palin conservatives are too stupid to realize they've been manipulated just as much as the most rabid anti-American leftist.

According to these conservatives, the problems with Palin are:

1) She doesn't have the silver tongue of the career politicians of today.

2) She's not very deep because she doesn't go into the details that other politicians don't go into either.

3) She's not very deep, even though she's running for executive positions where political philosophy is more important than the legislative positions where details matter.

4) She doesn't have the foreign affairs skills that, apparently, Obama gained in 180 days in the Senate or Bush gained while govenor of Texas, or Clinton got while govenor of Arkansas, or Reagon got as govenor of California.


In other words, conservative want out of this pattern of having the same old "progressive" leaders running the White House, so long as this conservative leader is just like all our other leaders. What conservatives really want, apparently, is someone with insider experience who will screw us just like all the rest.

The Republicans got a much needed win last night in VA and NJ. I'm glad that the voters sent Obama a message that they don't like the direction he is taking us and that all the campaigning he did was for nothing! In the end the voters knew that they would be stuck with Deeds in VA or Corzine in NJ and decided that's not what they wanted.

The republican victors in the VA and NJ governor's races were both moderate republicans who did NOT run on the "cultural issues" . . . while that "Conservative" candidate in NY23 ran as the quintessential firebrand right winger, with endorsements from the "talk show types" and Sarah Palin.

The GOP can learn something here. Run on an economic message . . . stay away from God, gays, and Jesus, and republicans can actually win outside the bible belt, even in the liberal northeast.

i see basketball. my bad.

I moved here almost 10 years ago from NY. All I can say is, I haven't been this happy in at least a year...