"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."
We'll certainly have some discussion on this today. Suffice it to say for these notes ... when I went to bed last night (after a particularly fun party) I didn't know the name of the shooter. I told my wife that it was my guess the shooter would turn out to be a Muslim. Well .. this morning we're treated to the name ... the shooter was Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan. Doesn't sound like a Deacon in the local Baptist church to me. It seems that Major Hasan had some problems with American foreign policy. So ... let's just shoot up some soldiers. According to a fellow soldier this Muslim (I'm guessing) goon said that Muslims had a right to rise up attack America. Word is that he is actually a convert to Islam. More news expected today.
Waking up to the wonderful, peaceful, serene, peaceful religion of Islam.
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What others are saying
Please no sensitivity education class
We hope no sensitivity class is forced on the military to protect that false religion of islam for the actions of a devout muslim. BTW mohammed was a phedofile, he married Aisha when she was 6 and consumated the marriage when she was 9 yrs. old. Religion of peace, ask about the Dhimmitude it is a neologism first found in French denoting an attitude of concession, surrender and appeasement towards Islamic demands. Dhimmitude is the condition and experience of those who are subject to dhimma, and thus not synonymous to, but rather a subset of the dhimma phenomenon: "dhimmitude [...] represents a behavior dictated by fear (terrorism), pacifism when aggressed, rather than resistance, servility because of cowardice and vulnerability. [...] By their peaceful surrender to the Islamic army, they obtained the security for their life, belongings and religion, but they had to accept a condition of inferiority, spoliation and humiliation."[6] Do not subject our military to the sensitivity nonsense to protect the blood religion of islam.
Nothing to do with Islam
Everything to do with our soldiers being forced to fight the wars for Israel and for the poppies, and in the proces murdering million or so innocent people. If you had to listen to the confessions of those PTSD affected soldiers day in day out, you would also go nuts and do something similar to yourself or someone else.
BUSH
Why isn't it being more widely reported that President Bush and his wife Laura were at Fort Hood FRIDAY paying their respect to the dead and wounded.
careful what you wish for...
I see torches and pitchforks gaining steam here. Your ignorance and need to prove that Islam is evil and violent is predictable and sad.
be careful what you wish for.
"when they came for my neighbor's koran, I said nothing. then they came for my bible."
@Jus Jon
Im sorry but you are pretty much wrong on almost everything you've said. Im sure we'll have the opportunity to discuss more, since I am sure the topic will come back up and my mind hasn't been changed on anything I've said. Its not necessarily that I am ignoring what you are saying I just think most of it is flat out incorrect, making me hold my position on America's adventurist un-sustainable foreign policy that is helping to destroy America's economy.
I hope you can remember
"crazy muslim shoots people because they agree with the same radical ideals as terrorists" is not the same as "crazy muslim carries out terrorist attack". Terrorism is a method, whereas this guy was just a crazy moron.
Fort Hood shootings
"In Washington, a senior U.S. official said authorities at Fort Hood initially thought one of the victims who had been shot and killed was the shooter. The mistake resulted in a delay of several hours in identifying Hasan as the alleged assailant."
The truth is probably something VERY different. For example: 'Two US privates John Smith and John Henry had been seeing a military psychiatrist major Hasan at Fort Hood for a few weeks. Both privates said they were completely against the war of oppression in the middle east and would refuse to report for active duty if ordered to do so. So the army put them both in therapy with Dr. Hasan. After more than five weeks of therapy both Christian privates were called to go to Afghanistan. Both privates warned they would not go and they would defend themselves with force if the army tried to force them to fight in a war they believed was morally wrong. Yesterday fellow soldiers tried to surprise the two conscientious objectors but the privates were prepared and killed 12 soldiers who tried to force their way into the privates' barracks at Fort Hood. During the mêlée their psychiatrist major Hasan, tried to talk the two privates into surrendering but he was shot twice. Finally both privates were overcome and killed. Their psychiatrist major Hasan is in hospital recovering.'
Officials of the military have spun the story to make it seem the privates' doctor (who has a muslim sounding name) was the perpetrator so that the public does not understand just how much resistance there is to the middle east war in the military rank and file.
The whole official Fort Hood cover story is 98% a lie - just like 9/11. Do you trust the main stream media for the truth in a story like this? Heck, for any story?
I do not.
Support the troops. End the war in the middle east and bring the troops home.
Now.
THE FT. HOOD SHOOTING
300 soldiers trained in hand-to-hand combat are helpless against a man with pistols to reload? a small civilian cop girl needed to defend them, risking her life? something must be wrong here...
Attack
As soon as I heard of the shooting I said to my coworkers the shooter is going to be muslim. I had a friend in college who was recruited by a local militant muslim group in Alabama. He told me his part was to join the Marines and become and electrician. That was in 1999
Incorrectly quoted
The press misquoted him as shouting "Allahu Akbar!" He was actually screaming "Obama Care! Obama Care!!"
And one for your viewing pleasure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc
If you really want to get a good idea of Islam's brutal, deranged, and sick ideas and practices: http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/islamofascists-greet-returning-british-soldiers-warning-includes-graphic-photos-of-terrorist-victims/
Enjoy.
@snarkybird
You said: "um, when did the entire muslim world do it then exactly?"
When haven't they? Are your really that dense or is it because you choose to ignore the facts because they don't fit your narrative? As if 9/11 wasn't convincing, and didn't hit close enough to your own back yard, here's just a FEW examples: http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1079060.html http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25185 http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/05/qaddafi-europe-and-the-us-should-agree-to-become-islamic-or-declare-war-on-the-muslims.html http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3156809,00.html http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP29601
Pop in on MEMRI, Al Jazeera, and any one of hundreds of Islamic websites.
My point is that Islam, by its very doctrine, IS terrorist. Muslims are simply carrying out what Mohammad dictated in a 7th Century screed.
To dismiss that is the epitome of ignorance and abject stupidity.
Your village is missing an idiot.
@Snarky
"My entire point is, to cast this act as a shadow across an entire faith is ignorant. but, that's what mob's do best so - get at it!
there's a town square and a pitchfork waiting for you somewhere, I'm sure."
Hey...that sounds like what liberals did with the banking industry.
Pot, meet kettle.
wow
Demosucks must be having a hard time with this.. push for gun control or... say Islam is not a bad religion.
Parting shot
Did ya hear? Louisiana Attorney General has raided the New Orleans ACORN offices!!! Warrants served for all records and computers. Oh joy, Monday gonna be fun.
rejoyce
"recent activity"
right, as I said... if it taint happen on my news channel...it never did
again, ignore history at your own peril. but, please dont' vote.
your ignorance is amazing
Snarky
how do you live with yourself?
You know ,ya really gotta feel for the Statist Demonrats today (not really , but work with me here)
Here they've had a really good gun massacre crisis they could exploit as a National health epidemic that even worse that swine flu or something. If they had just already passed Ocrapcare, they could have already started chipping away at our right to defend ourselves.
The Brady campaign to Disarm the law abiding probably had press releases all ready to go on the National health epidemic of Gun violence, and all they would have to do is fill in the particulars.
But if they come out with that now, they'll be letting the gun grabbing cat out of the bag.
Maybe we could all send a sympathy card to Rahm "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Emanuel.
So sad.
Maj. Hasan's internet post
http://www.scribd.com/NidalHasan
Never let a good chrisis go to waste
...here comes the government's chance to seize weapons from citizens...for our own good, of course.
Hey, Club
I'll tell you why..... because almost half of America is inhabited by a bunch of liberal pussies. That's why.
Snarkyturd
As a pround member of this here "mob" ~Shove it! That is all.....
don't hold your breath................
A VETERAN........I have a bad feelin' that some how the UCMJ will not get a chance.........
the scumsuckin' politicians will manage to override everyone........a current member of our armed forces murdered other members of our armed forces on a military installation......use the UCMJ??? not in the rest of our lifetime....
THANK YOU for your service to OUR NATION....one vet to another....
snark
Go back and read your own wiki post, where is recent acticity?
And yes, in their own religious books it says (paraphrasing now) if you can't convert then you destroy the infidel.
The return of the 12th Imam cannot begin until the earth is covered with the blood of the infidel....
Ya want more?
Just in case
In Ireland, the last violence was in 2005, a bishop or cardinal was assassinated, 2001 some kids and parents were stoned, before that 1996 or 1997. So it's actually pretty calm there right now.
resfcmac
You said "Since when did the IRA declare war an the entire Western civilzation in the name of "god"?"
um, when did the entire muslim world do it then exactly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism
My entire point is, to cast this act as a shadow across an entire faith is ignorant. but, that's what mob's do best so - get at it!
there's a town square and a pitchfork waiting for you somewhere, I'm sure.
Backlash?
Some knucklehead on here posted about how he's worried there may be a backlash against Muzzies. WTF! That's the same line from the MSM today. Even after this horrific attack, the perpetrators, the vermin, the POS Muzzies, are the victims!! Liberalism is truly a mental disease.
Recall 9/11. Recall how many of the MSM were oh so worried about potential backslash against the Musloons. there was nothing. In a country of 300M, there was no backlash. Instead, we had people tripping over themeselves, including Bush, telling us all how Pislam is a religion of peace. Unbelievable.
Maybe there should have been a backlash. Why the hell not? Why do we condone this? The Muzzies sure don't condone anything, not even a cartoon. Yet, we condone thousands of Americans getting slaughteed. Why do we bury our heads in the sand and treat the same people who want to destroy us as we treat our own citizens? At the airport, why do we treat the diaperhead the same as a 90 yr old wheelchair bound lady?? PC is going to kill us.
As for the MSM, can you imagine if the shooter was some white guy wearing a T-Shirt that said "I love Jesus"?? Endless stories about religious right extremists.
BTW, will they charge this Muslim piece of garbage with a hate crime also? Or, are they going to say that he just so happened to kill them by accident or random- no hate towards Americans whatsoever?
To Mike @ 11/06/09 12:25:27 PM
It's called Rosetta Stone and the most excellent Defense Language Institute of Monterey. And as far as covert ops is concerned (i.e. your intelligence gathering and on-the-ground operations), Team America illustrated just how easy it is, with some pubic hair and makeup, for a white dude to be surgically altered to look Exactly like them.
@Red Leader
Red, I think we have been down this road several times and you seem to ignore my responses...but since it is a slow news day, I will entertain you again: We have no permanent military bases in the ME. We currently maintain operational bases in areas where we are engaged in combat operations, but the last permanent base was closed some time ago. As a matter of policy, we are not trying to convert Islam to Christianity and I challenge you to cite a single State Department or administration dictum so affirming such. That is a strawman. There are more active conversions of Christians to Islam here and in Europe than the other way around. Our interventionist and imperialistic policies do not engage in occupation, disruption and disintegration of entire cultures and societies (Read British Colonial History). Invariably in every country that we have occupied ; usually after having to defeat it in war, the standard of living rose astronomically after we rebuilt the nation...ask Germany, Japan, and Korea for starters. By our trying to stabilize disheveled nations, we create internal and regional stability, which means we have to invest less in reacting to problems that crop up. Contemporary terrorism directed at the US is more resultant of our support of Israel and our desire to maintain stable commercial relationships with oil producers to keep global economic suffering to a minimum. While I agree in part that American presence (in general, not just militarily) helps unify terrorists, the germination of the terrorist culture is more the result of their own domestic properties that keep them poor, uneducated and subjects to a monarchy or theocracy. After that , they need someone else to blame. That is the fact the CIA acknowledges; we are a convenient target for emotion, but even in places where we have minimal influence, Indonesia and Thailand come to mind, the threat is still strong. These factions would not be at each others throats as you believe as they have been subjugated by their own rulers for so long.
Gavin
I'll take 52 straight months of job growth and record low unemployment over your DNC economy anytime. "The recession is over! Ignore the double digit unemployment behind the curtain!"
Fort Hood
There is almost no place in the world easier to carry out a mass shooting than a military post. Weapons and ammunition are tightly locked down and carrying of private weapons is tightly regulated. Plus you invariably have tightly packed masses of people in processing areas, waiting rooms, formations, training sessions, and so on. The culprit here isn't psychiatry (although it has plenty of sins to answer for) or the fact that the shooter was Middle Eastern. It's the American sense of entitlement and the belief that if you don't get your own way, you have a right to take it out on other people. How do you get to be a major and think you won't eventually be deployed?
this bothers me........................
the police sgt that shot the stinkin'muslim killer was using "DEADLY FORCE" and he's still suckin' my air......
more weapons training is needed......when you shoot at sumbuddy shoot to KILL....saves bullets and court costs.......
and I don't want to hear "when in the heat of combat"........been there done that......
@Randy W
Thanks for the link.
I can now put the 'reports' into the "suspect" or "rumor" category as it has be demonstrated on numerous occasions, the AP just makes up stuff to suit their agenda.
The White House & MSM Spin on Ft Hood
I'm sorry...as a retired soldier who was at Ft Hood during Desert Storm, I'm so sorry to be disrespectful, but this "President" is freaking CLUELESS!
I'm so pissed right now, I'm just beside myself! O-Bozo might as well get ready for it...his ass is OUTTA THERE come elections in '12.
I'm so hype about helping to vote out the idiots we have in Congress right now, it's crazy. 2010 can't come soon enough.
I'm not just grieving about the tragedy at Ft Hood, I'm also grieving the loss of my country...I hardly recognize it anymore!
Love and deepest sympathy to the families of the fallen, the injured and to the brave men and women stationed there.
Bush Derangement Syndrome
Congrats, GOP apologists! Only two sarcastic posts blaming George Bush for this. Maybe your Bush Derangement Syndrome is on the mend.
Tell you what, I'll concede that W isn't responsible for the actions of this killer if you concede we were worse off when W left office than when he got there.
@Steve RE; Blog Posting/Grain of Salt
This appears on page 32 of the document: Nidal Hasan Uniformed Services University School of Medicine
It appears that a grain of salt isn't needed.
To Killer @ 11/06/09 09:37:08 AM ("Kick Muslims out of the military")
How do you propose to accomplish translation with no Muslims in the military? There are not exactly thousands of people with names like Johnson and Smith learning Arabic as their college major.
Being able to translate Arabic and similar languages is an essential part of intelligence gathering and on-the-ground operations.
@shuttin down
WWAKF? That is just too funny. Put up a website, sd...I am sure it will stir the pudding even more than the ol' Talkmaster could! :-)
Best laugh of the day for me....unfortunately, there haven't been many with what's been going on.
Don't Ask Don't Tell
Maybe the military can institute the same stupid policy it uses for gays and apply it to Muslims But, maybe not. True Muslims must not be ashamed of their faith and must proudly wear their pure Islamic names such as Nadal Mulik Hasan or Barack Hussein Obama.
re-snarky: Irish terrorists?
Ignorance prevails again, for you snarky.
If you're trying to use the IRA (Irish Republican Army) as a model for non-Islamic terrorists then you are indeed correct. But I hope you're aware that the IRA is a political terrorist group, and not religious. Their grievances are with the British, and the divide of northern and southern Ireland. And though they are violent, they are not against all that you, me, and everyone we know stands for. How many IRA attacks have there been anywhere else in the world other than that little group of islands called the UK? Next Christian terrorist please?
@snarkybird
Speaking of ignorance...
Since when did the IRA declare war an the entire Western civilzation in the name of "god"? Am I missing something? Most of their terrorism was directed against British troops and the pro British Ulster Freedom Fighters, who incidently, commited their own acts of terrorism against the Catholics.
Only in the last couple of years? What's the area code of your cave? Islamic-sponsored terrorism has happened for DECADES.
What counts are historical facts. It hasn't just "happened to Americans in most recent modern history...blah blah blah..."
9/11 was years in the making, and as I mentioned to Alabamastan, just the latest in numerous attacks that grew in size and closer in proximity.
Your ignorance is embarrassing.
yes
ignorance prevails once again. By snarkybird
It certainly does on your side.
Point is, groups can learn. For the most part I don't see Christians forcing themselves on others at the point of a gun.
The Irish conflict was about more than just religion, it's about the ability to govern oneself, more closely aligned with the states issues during our Civil War. They just happen to have started out being split along religious lines. Mostly because one religion was loyal to England and the other wasn't. Yes, you can go back even further and find more of a religious bent, but really it has evolved and lessons have been learned.
@Jus Jon (are you talking about my usual facts?)
I have to disagree. None of what you typed really refutes what I am saying about overextended, bankrupting American world police mentality. We'll see I guess in the coming days what Hasan's outlook on American middle eastern foreign policy might be.
muslim religion
you know that eventually the government is going to blame religion for all the on going problems we have and shut them down.
Losers
I started reading some of these posts and quickly determined that they are mostly comments from pseudo-intellectual idealogues who are trying to play a game of oneupsmanship with each other. Give it a rest and speak English, dummies. Trying to compose eloquent prose isn't very becoming when you just can't do it.
Go back to your menial jobs and make the owner of your business some money.
Fort Hood
What with right-populist presumed domestic terrorists such as myself spreading with qualified but rising success reactionary isolationist alienation, dis-affection & dissidence from the long grueling, costly & frustrating imperial wars under taken in the name of the treasonous false flag attack of 2001 the elites must have ordered the American regime to deliver an extra shocking islamofobic black operation to force public opinion to resume accepting what benefits the corporatocracy no matter how much it hurts as well as give strong impetus to a mass gun confiscation drive. Loth as I am to praise evil usurping bastards I so envy & of whom I am toweringly jealous I must state they truly performed a doozy this FN time. So far only Alex Jones & Rense.com have embraced the glaringly obvious--to myself any how--conspiracist angle on this odious case.
resfcmackiller
oh, I see... so, only what's happened in the last couple years counts then?
Ireland might disagree.
so, all that counts or matters is what's happened to me/to us/to americans in the most recent modern history or as seen on my local news?
ignorance prevails once again.
The Peaceful Religion Of Islam
For those of you who are blind to what the radical sect of Islam(or even the mainstream) is all about, do yourselves a favor. Google "beheadings" to see what these people are all about. Islam might have once been a peaceful religion but those days are long gone. Muslims who are against this sort of behavior are in the extreme minority. But go to these beheading video sites and I dare you to watch one video of these bloodthirsty goons hacking the head off of someone with an 8" knife and then tell me that I'm off base. And now these idiots are here and now at least 1 is a high ranking military official. And remember, this isn't the first time this has happened. Sergeant Asan Akbar tossed grenades into the tents of his fellow soldiers. Radical Islam is about world domination. Destroy the enemy from within. This is why the military has to round up all practicing Muslims and bid them adieu.
Military and Police
So much for the long-standing argument by Victim Creators that only the police and military should be armed...
Boot the Medievals
DEPORT. THEM. ALL.
@Alabamastan
Had it been up to me, several countries in the Middle East--including Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and probably Saudi Arabia (they're NOT our friends)--would have been leveled into parking lots. THATS how you fight a jihad; but I'm a former Soldier and Iraq War veteran, not a politician. I get what you're saying about independence from ME oil, but eco-idiots keep blocking efforts to drill in ANWR, NPRA and the Central North Slope in Alaska.
But this war is not "all about the oil". If it were, we'd be paying about 4 cents to the gallon instead of the 4 bucks we paid for a long time.
Those who don't believe the Iraq invasion was justified haven't a clue. READ: http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/no-lies-about-iraq/
Saddam Hussein had WMDs and supported terrorism.
Iraq and Afghanistan are just TWO of the fronts in this war. It ain't over by a long shot.
With the exception of Desert Storm, WE WEREN'T IN IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN PRIOR TO 9/11.
The psychotic hatred for Western civilization is bred, indoctrinated, funded, and supported throughout the Middle East. This has been going on for decades. It's nothing new. The first volley fired at us was in 1979 with the Iranian hostage situation at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran. After that, the attacks got closer in proximity, frequency, and severity. Remember the numerous terrorist attacks on Bubba Clinton's watch?: Khobar Towers, USS Cole, the U.S. Embassy attacks in Kenya and Tanzania, and the FIRST World Trade Center attack in 1993.
The red flags went up years ago.
Snarkybird
Who the hell are you to decide who gets to have a weapon and who doesn't? Don't give me that crap about "not everyone needs one" line.
will he make it to his court marshall????
another stinkin'porkchopstealin muslim practicing his religion of peace.
it is goin' to be hard for our young warriors not to kill this stinkin'muslim before his trial.....
for you believers.....send a prayer to the friends and families of the victims for me........
now for sumthing completly different......you ain't from 'round here are ya X REPUBICAN.....sooo you got your lil' pink panties in a wad 'cuz I bad mouth 3mustbewrong the goat molester........
well git over it....sumbuddy called me an "IGNORANUS HICK" awhile back.....that was may rocket to stardom and yeah I can make intelligent comments once'st inna while butt......
I try to use cuntry humor here to make my point......when there is a point....if I didn't do that I may have to break down and cry.......
now tuffin' up and play nice.....
oh almost forgot......kiss my stinky butt........
Shootings
Hey gun control idiot, the soldiers aren't allowed to carry guns on the base unless they are on a training excercise. Do you think the muslim would have killed 13 if the soldiers had guns? I suspect he would have looked like a rotten piece of swiss cheese.
reAdam , resnarky
Adam, I already said it and much more angrily I might add.
Snarky, it's not a pervasion when it's the norm. Are you still so blind to the nature of this cult/pseudoreligion? Even the practitioners who are not involved in military action (ie not soldiers or terrorist goons, read-average citizens) are prone to outrageous violence. How many times have we heard of the father honor-killing his daughter for being raped or westernised? Or the stoning of gays in muslim nations. I thought progressives like you were in business for sympathy, female liberation, and gay rights. Christians never get a pass but for some reasons the muslims ALWAYS do.
Ok, and now I know what comes next: barking about Christian terrorists. But that is such a groundless argument. Muslims specifically kill "for Allah." Your favorite Christian martyr is Timothy McVeigh, or maybe Eric Robert Rudolph. But these men never EVER said "for Jesus" as they killed. A Christian background does not equal a Christian terrorist. These men obviously turned away from the teachings of Jesus. The teachings of Mohammed are much more in sync with the kind of violence muslims demonstrate daily.
Finally (I'll end it here, I promise) how often has a Christian gone into his church to blow it up? Would never be a good answer? Muslims, on the other hand, have blown up a mosque a day in Pakistan this past week.
PC will be the death of us all
This morning, many of the braindead morning shows could barely get out the word Muslim. The idiot Meredith Viera interviewed a military guy and based the whole interview as if this Muslim POS was the victim. She said that there were reports that he was made to feel uncomfortable about his religion over the years...awwwwwwwwwwww.....Then she asked the military guy, "Is this common". He should have slapped her in the face.
There you have it. This worthless Muslim is the victim. Last night, I heard this diaperhead's cousin make excuses about how hs cousin was treated and made uncomfortable.
One morning show bimbo host this morning actually said, "I wish his name was Smith." Step back for a second and think about that...She has no concern for the 50 victims and their families, her primary concern is the self-esteem of the neanderthal practicioners of peace.
New Rules:
Anyone wearing any of this Musloon garb, such as the curtain over their body, or the diaper on the head, should not be allowed.
No Koran, or any related bird cage liner, for prisoners, either. Why? It's like giving child porn mags to child molesters. It just enrages them.
A Veteran - UCMJ
As a Vietnam vet I say 'Right On!'. Military courts are a lot more efficient than the civilian counter-parts.
@snarkybird
What "christian terrorism"??? Last I checked, 9/11 was carried out by MUSLIMS with the expressed purpose of killing the "infidel". It damn sure wasnt Catholics, Protestants, Baptists, Espiscopalians, or wacky snake-handling Pentacostals from Appalachia who killed 3000 people on this soil in a single day, or stuck a knife in the chest of Theo Van Gogh, or threatened authors, journalists, and cartoonists with death over religious insults.
Tell you what, sweetpea, when "Christians" decide to strap on some bombs and wade into a marketplace full of muslims, then maybe you can opine about "Christian terroism".
The perversions of Islam are self evident to all who hold it.
"The religion of peace", it ain't.
THE FT. HOOD SHOOTING
COWARD! All boils down to a carefully planned mass shooting of UNARMED persons ... When the ARMED persons show up, the coward/shooter is no longer ... a shooter.
Peaceful tidings
Once again the peaceful tidings of Islam rears its ugly head in America. Those dedicated to kill Americans not only remain well infrastructured amongst us but our resources continue to breed future generations. This guy needs to go for a ride on the Saddam swing set.
@ Red Leader
Your usual diatribe about American interventionist policy has little bearing here. From CNN News:
Hasan, 39, is a graduate of Virginia Tech and a psychiatrist licensed in Virginia. He previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
A federal official said Hasan is a U.S. citizen of Jordanian descent. Military documents show Hasan was born in Virginia and has never deployed outside the United States.
re: SFC MAC
"...we have to fight muslim bastards on Middle Eastern battlefields..."
Why do we have to?
I mean, I'm all for defending ourselves for the 9/11 attacks (that defense should have been more decisive and over with several years ago, IMO) but all the other conflicts we have little or no business in (Iraq springs to mind) just breed this kind of psychotic hatred.
And this is another reason for energy independence. If we would put forth a Mannhattan Project-style push for alternative energy development, we could tell these people to eat their oil for all we care.
Muslim commty bracing for backlash?
One of the news stations had a ticker tape announcing that the Muslim community is bracing for a "BackLash". HHHhhmmmm, I wonder now, a backlash from what? Oh yeah, that's right, besides killing 13 people and that little mis-understanding they had on Sept. 11, 2001. Oh, and let's not forget the other little 'mis-understandings' they seem to have a proponderance of all over the world. What's the big mis-understanding? Well, being a 'SELFISH AMERICAN' I believe that good peaceful people who wish to better the world by promoting FREEDOM and should have a right to .....
LIVE!
However, this 'peaceful religion' of Islam somehow seems to disagree with my SELFISH beliefs.
(Oh, and for those of you who claim this is the act of a 'Isolated CRAZED GUNMAN' and has nothing to do with the religion of ISLAM, I would say there seems to be a lot of that going around the world lately, strangely enough I keep seeing the work of the "PEACEFUL RELIGION" of "ISLAM". What a coincedence huh?
One last comment, I was in the Army and I used to hear few people say they didn't believe in killing people. I would reply, "What the HELL did you think you were signing when joined? These people are nothing but sucking off the govt. tit and when it comes time to recieve the check they don't want to pay!
trolls
anytime you see "crybaby", "conservatives hate America" you KNOW it's JimmyDolan/BrianFantana/whatever the current name is.
All the same, all worthless, ignore.
Hasan
This guy was a shrink right? Who he was he counseling and what was his council? I don't mean to stir the pot. Oh wait. HELL YES I DO!!!
Interesting Video
I wonder how much time Maj. Hasan spent out of uniform and whether his superiors knew about it. He is clearly out of uniform in this video.
Sounds like he is another one of these guys who joins the Army so they'll pay for his schooling, then when they expect him to live up to his oath and contractual commitments, he says, "I didn't sign up to go into a war zone..."
So for those posters who say, "He just should have quit," - he COULDN'T. We the People paid for his education and in return he agreed to provide We the People with his services for a specific period of time.
The way he decided to deal with it was pretty extreme, but being a psychiatrist he probably thinks he can get off on an insanity plea.
UCMJ
Let us hope and pray that the federal civillian courts stay out of this since it happend on a military instalation and involved military personell. The feds should allow the commanders in this traitors' chain of command to let the Uniform Code of Military Justice take its course and try him for high treason and murder of fellow soilders during a time of war then let him swing from a rope in Ft. Rieley. It is time to make an example of this guy and show anyone else what it really means to take an oath to defend our nation and its constution. That is not to say that Texas would not be a bad venue either they don't wait around too long before sending their murderers to their demise quickly.
Christian vs Muslim terrorism
ummmm,yeah? Go ahead, compare.
Slut-er, Dildolan, Fagtana
Same stupid troll, different names.
We have a cast change today
Sgt Slaughter will be playing the part of GI Joe, Brian Fantana, Lane Meyer, Clubber Lang, Stan Gable, and Frank.
more killed by peaceful religion and political correctness
It's sad but not at all surprising to watch our "media" turn backflips in their attempts to avoid identifying this as a muslim terrorist attack. Every muslim in the military needs to be examined and anyone questionable needs to be removed. Yes, I said it.
Just get used to it.
As long as Muslims are in our military, you can just expect more of this. Islam is a scourge...a cancer, and so long as we allow the cancer in our body, it will continue to get worse.
Just another man-made disaster, it must be America's fault.
I'm mildly surprised they didn't use his pre-conversion name like they usually do. They must not have been able to find it in time.
Too bad they can't just turn him over to the Texas state government, with all those witnesses, he'd be on the fast track to execution.
From what he told the soldier, I wonder what he told his muslim friends before his killing spree for allah.
reivanace
ivan - me too http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/091105/health/health_flu_ukraine_4
ace - I dont ask this as a smack but, have you ever been in the military? weapons are inventoried so regularly and detailed that to have everyone hold a weapon with ammunition would be a nightmare. plus, let's face it - not everyone really needs one nor would it be practical to carry one at all times for most jobs.
for all the "muslim" barking... I'm assuming we can start appropriately bashing all christian terrorism as such too, yes?
To me, if I held either belief, it would be a sad day when perversions of my faith get applied to all who hold it.
@Sgt Slaughter
Gun control is being able to hit your target, assclown. Which is precisely what the MPs and Security force did when that POS opened fire on UNARMED Soldiers.
Go back to playing with yourself, now.
Re SGT
As I posted elsewhere.. You should be ashamed to use that name today of all days. Disrespectful, tasteless.. And you cry that "conservatives hate America" You should be hog whipped for that name today.
Dale In New Jersey, or ' Boortz.com Board Moderator'
I didn't realize you were in charge of news verification today...sorry. Here's your link, it was an Associated Press report. Can I have dessert with my dinner tonight now?
your statement makes no sense. if I assembled all the carpenters in the country and told them to build a house but did not give them the tools to do it the house would not be built. likewise...every soldier there was fully capable of taking this guy out but they did not have the tools to do it.
Why don't they let soldiers have sidearms to be able to defend themselves?
We trust these people with automatic weapons when overseas and we can't let them even carry basic protection over here?
Shame
What a shame! 1) We've known about this Muslim Goon for six months! 2)Largest Army base in the US and nobody carrying a side arm? I know I know,being in the Military once,I know we were not allowed to carry on the base.But if this keeps happening maybe we should think about that. 3)My hats off to the female officer that took this goon down,head shots please.At any rate, that's my kinda girl.Godspeed to her! 4)This Muslim asshole has stated,(Muslims have a right to rise up and attack America)I wish one of these dirt bags would rise up and attack me,one can only wish,no such luck.
Traitor: One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to an enemy, or yields up any fort or place intrusted to his defense, or surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; also, one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country.
His motives or issues with foreign policy mean nothing. He is in the military and took up arms against his fellow soldiers. He should be dealt with accordingly in a military fashion. "Hasan, could you just stand over by that wall there? Thank you."
Prezbo's response to Ft. Hood Tragedy
Neal! Check out Drudge..at top of page. http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html
I feel deep sorrow for those killed and wounded by this islamic madman. WTF was he doing in the US Army anyway? If you need some proof of the idiocy of the man who occupies the White House, just cut and paste the URL above and read about BO's response to the tragedy.
He is NOT my president. He needs to be removed from office...the sooner, the better..and any way, any way, is fine by me.
This is an important story...
but how come no one is talking about the strange viral outbreak in Russia? It is not swine flu. This is something completely different. Some are calling it a plague.
Are you as stupid as your post? Is that even possible? They stopped the guy at Fort Hood from killing more people when they shot him 4 times. He might have killed dozens of people if not for the other guns. Your little trollings are boring enough without being totally moronic. I don't usually directly attack others online, but if I were you, I'd be embarrassed to have written something so foolish.
Another example of the "peaceful religion of Islam"
Its bad enough we have to fight muslim bastards on Middle Eastern battlefields and that the federal government allows them to come into the country and operate jihadist training camps on our soil. Now we also have to contend with the ones in our military ranks.
I look forward to this POS getting a cell on death row right next to Asan Akbar, who killed Army CPT. Christopher Scott Seifert, an S2 Officer in one of our 101st Airborne brigades, and wounded 15 others.
This is clearly an act of terrorism by a radical muslim jihadist, who had no business being in the U.S. Army, let alone the country.
@Sgt Slaughter
Safer does NOT mean 100% safe all the time from all guns. Yeeesh...some people.
Islam is a peacful religion
It really is. No, stop laughing and I'll explain. Well, it WILL be a religion of peace as lomg as its the ONLY religion. As soonas the entire world embraces Islam. See? it really IS a relligion of peace, as soon as they kill all infidels.
@Randy W - Fort Hood Terrorist
"There are reports that Hasan was harassed for being Muslim"
Link to verified source -or- in the future would you and others posting "reports or reported" beging with 'ALLEGED or UNVERIFIED SOURCES'. That way we readers can make a judgment as to the validity of these 'reports". OK!
I know the LSM like to tout 'anonymous' and 'unnamed' sources in their reporting expecting the public to take as fact(which a lot do because they were indoctrinated in 'gubmint skools', but can we at least try to give credit to sources.
Just wait
The mainstream will report and play this as a disgruntled soldier instead of a psycho Muslim jihadist.
Sgt stupid
What an assinine thing to say, I know from past experiences that on post all firearms are locked up in the armory. I carry a 9mm taurus on me all the time, I hope I never use it but if I do I wont miss, If the soldiers were allowed personal firearms Major mental would have thought twice about his shooting spree, Instead he picked his moment carefully where he new everyone except MP,s would be unarmed. Semper Fi Greg
How did it happen
Something about this whole incident is not right. How was one man able to shoot so many? Even with two 9mm service handguns, which were very likely Baretta 92s--that have standard 15 round magazine capacities--he would have had to empty the magazines of both and reload AND make almost every round count to hit 40-43 people. And I doubt he was THAT GOOD at shooting. We are not getting the whole story.
I've been up all night following this and the story has changed so many times. He was thought dead but now reports are he is in stable condition after being shot four times (how is this possible?) and the woman who shot him is also not dead (as was first reported).
Chalk it up to confusion as I will do, but it still does not sit right with me.
And Sgt. Slaughter, we did this to ourselves by putting the gun in the hands of a muslim. This guy was crazy to begin with and people involved with him knew it. If more guys who were TRAINED WITH GUNS (like an infantryman who could have zapped Hasan before he got his second shot off) had been around, safety would have reigned.
Sharia law trumps all other laws
This is the most important truth about most muslims. Their loyalty is to a "higher cause". I'll bet that this murderer will be examined by psychologists and found competent to stand trial. He's not nuts. He was just doing the bidding of his faith, as interpreted in his own mind. This is why muslims should never be placed in command or issued firearms in the military. Instead, we can use them to dig latrines, work in the laundry, or shine boots.
Bias
This story shows what bias and racisim Neil has against Islam! What about all those crazy "Christian" killers who have shot up malls and schools and... No wait, those were all Muslam as well...
Never mind.
Re: Sarge
Or..Thanks to the first responders..or there would have been more killed/injured
Your argument blows.. One radical guy with a couple of pistols hardly equates to the bazillions of law abiding people who don't go around killing others
Ft Hood
I wonder how long it will take the Libs and the media for blaming this on George W. Bush
Muslims have no place in our armed forces
It's time we look at the possibility of kicking muslims out of the U.S. military. This is especially true for those who voice disapproval with our military for occupying their so-called holy land. Obviously, people in the cult of islam place their culthood above service to their country, even above the very lives of the men and women they call brother.
This psycho cultist was supposed to be AIDING soldiers with problems, but his "faith" convinced him to protest about as peacefully as someone would expect from the cult of islam. So he killed men and women who trusted him. This is not the first, or even the second or third time a muslim in our military has killed or attempted to kill his fellow soldier. Unfortunately I don't think it will be the last either, unless we remove these people from our military. They don't want to be a part of it anyway.
Let's see if I have this straight so far from what the MSM has told us: this man was disturbed and upset by the thought of experiencing the horrors of war, so he decided to go on a violent shooting rampage. It obviously couldn't have been that little coincidence that he was a muslim about to be deployed to a muslim nation.
He could have gotten out. Officers in the military can write to their superiors declaring they no longer wish to serve, unlike enlisted. This poor, poor underpaid O-4 could have simply refused to go and resigned, had his religion been as peaceful as we are supposed to believe.
But he did this. And now he is undoubtedly regarded a hero for the religon of peace and decapitation.
I thought it was just me but
The presidents response in his initial press conference was weird. Seems I'm not the only one to think so.
"Once again we see that Islam and 21st century western civilization are incompatible."
So maybe this is why the American military should not be in the middle east trying to force these people to conform to western culture.
Makes me want to go back into the service....
This POS...he should be rode out of town on a rail. Literally like they used to do it in the old days before we became pansies in this country.
The MSM is in full cover mode about his Muslim background. One nework's anchor said (not word for word) "I wish his name was Smith."
WTF.....
I believe (my opinion only) that this was a long planned out scenerio that finally came to be yesterday. I believe Hasan is working with a group and this is what his job was..even from the first day he joined.
Some reports are saying that he was Jordanian and that is where he went to school.
I just had a friend killed in Afghanastan and this peon does this crap.
Blowback ?
Let's say it together folks...."Blowback: The unintended consequences of America's interventionist foreign policy."
As usual Boortz failed to really dissect this thing in his paragraph. First off I hope the shooter gets jail time, or what ever is coming to him....however!.....If muslims were in America, in bed with America's government, building permanent military bases on American soil and trying to get Americans to follow shari'a law, would Americans be happy about it? Could such a set up inspire Americans to do what this soldier did out of anger on foreign policy? There's no excuse for what the soldier did....but we have to get to the WHY? And this is where Boortz usually failes and sides with the left leaning neo-con mysticism adventurist bankrupting world police, Rome-mentality foreign policy rather than taking a good cold hard logical traditional conservative look at it. American soldiers have been in the middle east killing people (some innocent) for years, and most of those middle eastern countries do not have the capacity to strike the American mainland, if they did then we'd see the border closed and illegal aliens being sent out in droves, however that's not what we see so by deductive logic we can assess that the feds don't even think these people are a threat. Hell we can't even get some politicians to say the words 'illegal aliens'. American military presence and intervention in the middle east is helping to unify fundamentalist blood thirsty muslims for a common cause. Even CIA members acknowledge this, why isn't Boortz catching on? These people would be at each others throats (as the have been for centuries) if they didn't have America as a convenient scapegoat and terrorist recruitment tool to rally around. The ONLY way you could not see this is if Americans would be fine with muslims coming over here onto American soil and doing here what America is doing over there. Wake up fellow conservatives, just because some people believe America is an entity of good, does not mean they over there see it that way. I know I certainly would not want muslims over here trying to get American culture to conform with Islamic culture. Understand also that they WANT Americans over there to help there numbers, and to help destroy America's economy...they want to hurt America anyway they can.They know America does not have the cash to maintian this type of foreign policy. America needs to make its exit out of that region and protect its own borders from people like Hasan. Just think, BILLIONS of our tax dollars go to protect S.Korea, while Hasan goes unrecognized as a threat. WAKE UP!
Surprised
I am surprised that the ever loving, peaceful religion of Islam might have anything to do with this. Sure, they say stone your wife if you want to divorce her, or run your daughter down with your car for honor, but seriously why would they suggest a shooting. I'm sure it has nothing to do with religion.
Sympathy
As in : reserved for the victims, not for the perpetrator. He could have used a single bullet and a note and accomplished what he needed.
It's
all Bushes fault the community organizer whines.
Shooting
I am disgusted with the Dspartment of Homeland Security and with the nonentity who heads it.
Gun Control
I guess there goes that insane theory that the more trained people w/ guns there are the safer we will be.
Yuh know what makes me sick?
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Yuh know what makes me sick? Yuh know what makes me so mad ah wanna take wun o them there corrans and swap it out with the Sears catalog in granpas outhouse? Ever time yuh turn round, theres some terrible news on the raydeo and teevee and not far away ya can always find some raghead or muzlim got his dirty mo-hawm-ed wannbe hands mixed up in it sumwhere. Our boyz n girlz in uneeform got enough to worry bout without sum depraved goat-herder child molester-worshippin hawgee muck-ee-un up the works shootin and blowin up evrethin in sight. Ah say kick-em all out they can blow stuff up an boff all the goats and kids they want accordin to their reel-lig-in ifen they just stay away from us n ours. And ifen we cant kick-em out .. well hell, lets give-um Vermont!
WAKE UP UHMERIKA!
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How can you tell? I am sure that is an Amish name. You know those Amish....
Ft. Hood incident - can beliefs have something to do with it?
Once again we see that Islam and 21st century western civilization are incompatible. It is time to put this political correctness stupidity aside and seriously investigate people that belong to questionable groups, or have questionable beliefs. I don't care what CAIR says, when someone yells "Allah Akbar" before the shootings, we know he has martyrdom in mind? Racial/cultural profiling is a good thing if it saves lives.
Now who was that Republican idiot that said universal health care is more dangerous than this?
Fort Hood Terrorist
I've already seen this, before 8am today: "There are reports that Hasan was harassed for being Muslim". It must be just killing the MSM to have to even use this piece of sh*t's name.