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"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it."

Frederic Bastiat

HOW RIGHT DID THIS GUY HAVE IT

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Neal Boortz
@ November 23, 2009 8:48 AM
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A listener sent in an email, reminding me of this quote from Dr. Adrian Rogers. Rogers was born in 1931, right before our imperial federal government began its massive FDR induced expansion. In 1996 Rogers wrote "Ten Secrets for a Successful Family." He wrote that "by and large our young people do not know either the importance or the value of honest labor." I think Dr. Rogers got this one right ..... at any rate:

The quote: Here you go:

"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it."

In researching this quote I noticed some predictable liberal whining; like this one: "So what are the poor supposed to do to survive? Like now, when millions are losing their jobs." So ... government plunder is OK because poor people need to survive.

My research, cursory as it was, let to another quote; this one from Gary North:

"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

I just LOVE that quote! "Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote." That quote should be on the office door of every congressional Democrat; and no small number of Republicans.



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What others are saying

  • Here is another good quote.
    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

    "The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. From bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. From spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. From courage to liberty;
    4. From liberty to abundance;
    5. From abundance to complacency;
    6. From complacency to apathy;
    7. From apathy to dependence;
    8. From dependence back into bondage"

    Alexander Tytler, 1787
    History Professor, University of Edinborough
  • Tom Ace
    >>>hahahaha
    Wow, bringing out quotes from several decades ago, that has about as much merit as bringing out quotes from the founding fathers. Welcome to the 21st century folks!
    By Tom Ace @ 11/23/09 09:42:57 AMreport abuse<<<

    Just because they were and still are smarter than you and your entire political party centurys ago doesn't make them irrelevant.
  • I already researched the quote--he didn't coin it.
    http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/you_cannot_multiply_wealth_by_dividing_it/

    I'm a contributor to the Yale Book of Quotations.
  • burned????????
    oh maybe twice't........cudn't believe it the first time........
  • If you keep rubbing Peter
    sooner or later, Peter gets so sore you just have to stop ...
  • Re: Mike G
    Mike, when the government fires up the printing presses, it is still taking from someone else -- the only difference is it's now taking it indirectly through inflation.
  • RE: 'Tommy Boy'
    In reference to Tom Ace's ignorant comment about the quote being outdated; although it's origin is irrelevant, this quote was actually part of a longer passage in a 1996 work "Ten Secrets of a Successful Family". Is this modern enough for you or is your stupidity timeless???
  • Not completely true
    If the government was forced to first take from somebody else, before giving things away, there'd have been a revolt long ago. Instead the government gives it away today, adds to the deficit, and then fires up the printing presses.
  • Not completely true
    If the government was forced to first take from somebody else, before giving things away, there'd have been a revolt long ago. Instead the government gives it away today, adds to the deficit, and then fires up the printing presses.
  • This is why Southern Baptist Rock
    Dr. Rogers was an amazing pastor. It's statements like that really shed truth on things.

    So for all of you anti-Christian/Baptists out there... :P We've got a few good eggs.
  • I try to ignore trolls, but sometimes, just sometimes, it's too easy, too tempting ...
    Yo, Tom Ace, "Don't touch that stove, it's hot!" (My mother said those words, my grandmother said those words, my great-grandmother said those words, I suspect those words are several hundred years old. How many times have you burned yourself?
  • "Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote."
    Hey! That's snarkybird's morality in a nutshell.
  • Contrasting ethical standards
    What we have here is the contrast between Teleological ethics and Deontological ethics. The former takes into account only the result of the action, while the latter judges the action itself. If you believe that the poor must be helped at any cost, you can justify any atrocity to achieve that goal (your typical leftist). The deontologist judges the act, not the goal. If stealing is wrong, it is wrong even if it helps the poor, because it hurts someone else in the process.
  • Yeah, I misspelled.
    I realized I misspelled in my earlier post. I blame the keyboard.
  • @ Tome
    "hahahaha
    Wow, bringing out quotes from several decades ago, that has about as much merit as bringing out quotes from the founding fathers. Welcome to the 21st century folks!
    By Tom Ace @ 11/23/09 09:42:57 AM"

    I guess you'd say the same thing about the Constitution, Amendments and Bill of Rights? Or have you and the others recycled them into 2ply quilted?
  • government restraint
    Just rereading some of the Federalists papers regarding the powers enumerated to the govt. #44 covers this as well
  • re: Tom Ace
    Who cares when it was written. If it was true then it is true now, no? I don't care if you're quoting Confucius, Jesus Christ, or Tom Hanks, if the statement is 100% on point it loses nothing no matter how long ago it was written/spoken. So, lay off the pâté(didn't think anyone would get the reference did you) and do some research. Or is "Change we can believe in" all the quote you need?
  • Adrian Rogers
    Dr. Rogers was my pastor for more than five years. Now, the liberal crowd might criticize his comments as being cold-hearted toward the poor, but nothing could be further from the truth. Dr. Rogers had a generous heart and cared for the poor deeply. He just recognized that the appropriate way to care for the poor (and the more effective way) was for private groups and individuals to do it. In his case, he advocated the church take up this responsibility. He was opposed to the government doing this because the government had to first steal from someone else in order to "give" to the poor. And just so the liberals understand: The Bible has clear prohibitions against stealing.
  • Mr. Rogers' Collapsing Empire Neighborhood
    Someone wake me when it's time to start the revolution.
  • hahahaha
    Wow, bringing out quotes from several decades ago, that has about as much merit as bringing out quotes from the founding fathers. Welcome to the 21st century folks!
  • ten commandments
    I think that when they broke the "thou shalt not covet" it led to the "thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote."

    Which leads me to President Obama: Psalms 109:8

    Thus endith the lesson.
  • Bastiat sait it...
    ...long before Rogers did. Why is this so hard to understand? Or are leftists just too stupid to live?
  • Bumper Sticker Wisdom
    Back of a pickup the other day...

    "If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote."
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