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DAVID AXELROD: "FOX NEWS IS NOT REALLY A NEWS STATION"

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  • @Ivan
    Dude,
    You cannot tell me anything about Iraq ans Afghanistan I don't already know. I was there, I was an Intelligence Analyst, and I have a pretty good handle on the reasons.

    This is what you know:

    Jack. Squat.
  • To snarky
    I wish it were as simple as just me being nuts. Unfortunately the truth is stranger than fiction. Look you have to understand that I know how some of this sounds. Hell I am so skeptical these days of everything I hear. I just want to give people enough information to point them in the right direction. You have to understand how much info I hold back. None of this info is mine. Most of it comes from Colonels, Generals, and employees of Lockheed Martin. Hell I just recently met a man in Marietta that worked for Lockheed in their Skunkworks program. He told me things that just blew my mind. Like for instance he said that Lockheed provided advanced guidance systems back in the 80's to the Navy for an aircraft that was capable of space flight and was actually using a propulsion system based on a phased gravitational wave. He basically said that the craft operated using antigravity technology. This guy is pretty important as he had been working for Lockheed for about 30 years. Anyways not many people know this kind of stuff and skeptics will always call bs. Not sure exactly why.
  • reivan-ufohunter
    Ivan - dude, I think you're nuts. But, having said that, I apologize because I'm stealing from you.

    It sure sounds like you're talking about alien spacecraft/artifacts. If so, crazy or not - what a great story idea for a movie "Iraq war was about alien technology"

    That would explain why UN inspectors were allowed in but we invaded anyway - they found something. something else.

    dude - this thing writes itself.

    sorry, I'm taking it. I'll stick your name in the credits.

    thanks!
  • I gotta agree
    I whole hearted believe that Fox News helped the Democrats re-take the House, Senate and White House and they'll continue to do so.

    They're very gimmicky and would rather push borderline-shock stories than actual news.

    If you take your average political moderate person and let them listen to Boortz, there's a good chance they'll say "You know, I understand this Conservative ideology now".

    Let that same person watch Fox News for 2 hours and they'll think "wow, Conservatives are a bunch nutcases."

    Also, Glen Beck has became out of control. He's an embarassment to Conservatism, but Fox News is gonna pimp him out for every dollar.
  • Didn't Keith Blobberman from MSNBC make the comment last month that since Fox News was not a real news channel then MSNBC was the no. 1 cable news channel. I guess that the white house is now taking their marching orders from Keith like the Republicans do from Rush.

    When will President Obama, Axelrod, Emmanuel, Gibbs and Dunn realize that if you want to reach the most moderates, go on FOX News. They call FOX News liars and decievers, yet won't go up against them to prove that Fox is wrong. They really are whiners.
  • Olberman
    I know that the Dems and Progressives like to say that Republicans get their marching orders from Rush, but didn't I just hear Keith OldBlobberman just say, about two weeks ago, that Fox news wasn't a real News network and that made MSNBC the leading cable news network.

    When will President Obama, Axelrod, Emmanuel and Gibbs realize that in order to reach the largest audience and change peoples mind, they need to go on the largest cable news network with the most moderates.
  • rerullivan
    You said "I'm pretty sure you're supposed to cite the original source of the information... which they did."

    No, actually (read much?) they didn't. That was kind of the whole point of the story there chief. That's what made it interesting enough for someone to spend the time to write about it.

    Look it up for yourself. Lots of people thought it was interesting enough to write about.

    but, when you find those other links... read them s - l - o - w - e - r and let it sink in before you post.

    good job!
  • reivan
    oh lord, here we go again...

    the govt controls the weather...standing wave fronts...tesla death ray

    tell me, if the govt has a facilty in australia that can control the weather, dont you think they'd make it rain? just a little?
  • reaceandtwisted
    Is it impossible for Obama to be a racist?

    first - what is a racism?

    –noun
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.



    So, knowing that, I also tend to avoid the word "impossible" but, I'd say given the following:

    1. the race of his mother and her family
    2. the racial makeup of his campaign staff, esp senior campaign staff
    3. the racial makeup of his cabinet, esp senior advisers and cabinet members (white jew as chief of staff as an example)
    4. his education and background
    5. his stated beliefs
    6. his actions towards other races

    I'd say there's no evidence at all that he is a racist or practices racism.

    Twisted - you use the example of a klan rally, I assume, as a comparison to Obama's attendance in Wright's church yes?

    The comparison is ridiculous but, I have my own theory on this actually.

    Obama is, at his core, pragmatic as a person can get. Given that, he was a community organizer in the neighborhood where Wright's church was a rather large and important focal point. I think he maintained his allegiance to the church where Wright preached to maintain his presence in the community. But, I also think he developed genuine relationships with many, including Wright.

    To me, Wright embodies the drunk uncle we all have in our families. Yes, Obama could have got up and left the church but his pragmatism towards seeing the good that he could do, did, and was done through that facility and it's people was more important that letting the sometimes "drunk uncle" ruin it. Easier to put up with the tirades of an old man who, frankly, has seen more sh*t that you or I will ever see, wail at the sky and still be able to do good.

    But, as you see it, because he sat there and listened he's a racist?

    Isn't this the same broad brush that carter used? At least he has active examples of actual racism along with his own life experience.

    Obama has not exhibited any actions that would be considered racist.

    But, to you, this is the same as a klan rally? where blacks were sometimes lynched? burned? hunted down and murdered?

    I saw a photo the other day:
    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Little_Rock_integration_protest.jpg

    look familiar?

    History is real. Esp for those who lived through it.

    Can you not see even a slice of what's gone on after Obama's election that has this same sentiment?

    Racism is real, that is for sure. But, actions would indicate it's not Obama who's the racist.
  • rebigjoe
    You asked me to tell you ONE good thing about Obama?

    Seriously? Just one?

    He changed the face of America overnight.

    But see, while I (and many, many others) view this as a good thing. You view it as weakness. As something other than good.

    I could go on with the good things but, what's the point? You've chosen to see things differently. By your very words (Illegal) you show that there is no telling you about the good. Only feeding your need to bash.

    Good luck with that.

    I'll go you one better - Bush's one good thing - Iraq.
  • To mattisben
    Well...haha. Um. Not directly, but it is a piece of the puzzle. Lets just say they found something in Iraq that if revealed could change the entire world if it were made public. It would tell us things about our past, present, and our future that we have previously misunderstood. Archeologists would literally mess themselves over it. No it is not a time machine...however the very existence of the "thing" would make you question where it came from. The "thing" at AUTEC and Pine Gap were the only ones that I knew of until I heard about the one in Iraq. The one at AUTEC has a really interesting effect on our planet. It causes strange disturbences in the gravitational pull in that area and on the opposite side of the planet as well. Okay I have definently said too much now haha.
  • Forrest
    "Fox - "Today the majority Democrats rammed through X legislation and it will go to the Senate on Wednesday with an almost certain approval waiting. Some people say this could lead us further down the path of Socialism. Reporting from Capitol Hill is Blondie Von Bustyblouse. Blondie, what is the reaction from the floor of the House this morning? After a brief Dem-bashing, the anchor cuts to commercial, which just happens to be a commercial for Hannity: “The government is trying to take over your healthcare, but can it be stopped? Chuck Norris is on Hannity tonight, for a fair and balanced investigation, tonight at 6.”

    Well your analysis is not exactly fair and balanced! Blondie? Kiss my grits!
  • re Ivan
    It wouldn't have anything to do with the secrets of creation, would it? I am very serious.
  • @ Joyce
    The opinion guys come on in the afternoon, when everyone tunes in after work to watch "news." The reality of the situation is, you can’t get NEWS at 7:30 at night, you can only get opinion, and this is how/why opinion becomes news. The guys I'm talking about on flatbeds, yes, they were on Hannity and O'reilly and Beck and Greta, even Fox and Friends, but they were also on during the middle of the day, when the 'news' is on. Yes, those remotes were out there cheerleading. I know the difference between news and opinion, the fact is, the midday anchors interject their own opinions into the news (remember the griping on here about Shepard Smith last week when he opined on Healthcare? His is a -news- show), so the whole of the day becomes one opinion piece after another. That said, I do like their WH correspondent, Major Garrett, he's pretty objective and asks challenging questions.

    Here is a clarification:

    News - "Today, the House passed X legislation by a 287-146 with two absentees. Supporters of the bill claim that it will do such and such, while opponents are stating that it will cost this and that. A list of the voters and their votes can be found at our website. In other news, Michael Jackson’s death was ruled as a homicide today by a district judge. Now for a commercial break….

    Fox - "Today the majority Democrats rammed through X legislation and it will go to the Senate on Wednesday with an almost certain approval waiting. Some people say this could lead us further down the path of Socialism. Reporting from Capitol Hill is Blondie Von Bustyblouse. Blondie, what is the reaction from the floor of the House this morning? After a brief Dem-bashing, the anchor cuts to commercial, which just happens to be a commercial for Hannity: “The government is trying to take over your healthcare, but can it be stopped? Chuck Norris is on Hannity tonight, for a fair and balanced investigation, tonight at 6.”


    One is a statement of fact, while reporting different perspectives. The other is mentioning an event, then reporting on perspectives while phrasing the questions so as to drive the story in a certain direction.

    Fox, boiled down, is sensationalism, and they are an outlet that exploits our unhealthy desire for the next scandal, fictitious or not. This is why each time there is a traffic jam that they report on, the first questions are ‘could this be terrorist-related?’ Seriously… I just would like facts, and Fox mixes them in so thoroughly with opinion, it is a challenge at times to distinguish the two.
  • Jimmy D?
    Where are you? Oh I know, little boys must take their nappy naps. Soon you will be awake and calling us all "cry babies".

    liberal = hypocrite
  • no tin hats needed................................
    IVAN...........no jokes.....
  • To butt
    I know you like to make jokes and all and I appreciate that attitude most of the time, but the subject I am refering to is pretty monumental. I honestly can't just tell you what exists in Iraq that we were so worried about Saddam having without giving you a back story on what it does and where it came from. It would take far too long. All I can say is that what exists in Iraq also exists in other parts of the world. Two other locations that I know of where the same "situation" exists is the AUTEC naval research facility and Pine Gap. I know of individuals with a very high clearance that have had access to those facilities and they have told me things that I had alot of trouble believing. Their supporting information is pretty incredible though. Anyways take that for what it is worth. I believe that you may be able to figure out what I am referring to from the information I have given. If you do keep it to yourself. Even though the information is very relevant to all that is going on in the world right now I would recommend not talking about this subject openly.
  • Watch them all, or at least more than one
    No harm done here. We know Obama is not really Presidential. The media just spends a lot to time and effort trying to make that happen.
    Listen folks, watch and listen to all sources. Consider why some media outlets don't cover some stories and why some stories are repeated ad naseum. If you can sit there and think of at least 5-10 questions that should be asked to garner more information, and the questions aren't asked,,,then you should start to wonder about the NEWS reporting. IT has been obvious to most that the alphabet soup media outlets have NOT done honest reporting and have NOT offered balanced reports. Fox is not my favorite but it provides more insights and news ticklers that make you go "hmmmmm"? than the other media sources. Just like Boortz,,,he might not be a little off on the facts,,but he does make you go "I wonder". If he doesn't, somethings not working up there or or you are too rabid a follower.
  • shes baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack...
    crap..........who left the damn gate unlocked?????????
  • To Forrest
    Ron Paul should be President that much is obvious. The reason he is not is because the people that he opposes runs the show. There was no possible way they were going to give Ron Paul a fair shake because he would have REAL solutions to fix the economy unlike the current and previous administrations that are dead set on destroying our nation.
  • One thing I agree with Forrest on
    Is how Ron Paul was treated by everyone. Oh if only...
  • do things get........ HOT?????????
    Ivan.......when the SECURED thingy is used........do giant 'shroons grow?????
  • @ mac
    Thank you for your service and for your patriotic rebuttal of those who would love to see this country forced to become part of an NAU.
  • Guess the WH has decided Fox is worthy of an appearance after all
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/18/AR2009101802260.html?nav=hcmoduletmv
  • Arguing about FNC,BSNBC,CNN,etc is like arguing about religion. Everyone is right because it is what they choose to believe. Fox leans right the rest lean left? Okay sure.
    Whenever I find a story that I think is newsworthy I try to find all the perspectives I can. No one organization is going to give you 100% truth all the time without any opinion thrown in. That's why I look at many so I can determine a clear picture.
    On a different note. I do tire of Obama's whining about Fox. I think it is above the station of the President to whine about the press. I was not a big Bush supporter but at least he did not whine about the press when they ripped him. Which was often.
    Enjoy your day all.
  • you keepin'..........................
    IVAN............you're keepin' secrets from me????? or was alkihall involved when you tol' me?????????????
  • have I told you lately..........
    SFC MAC.............Thank you for your service.......and I luv you......as one vet luvs his brother(even if she is a lady) veteran......
  • My fav soldier!
    Way to go SFC MAC! I greatly appreciate those links and your service.

    Thanks C.
  • Forrest
    "During the Tea Party protests, you didn’t see Fox remote reporters simply stating facts, showing the turnout... no, you saw them standing on flatbeds and shouting to the crowds, leading them in cheers, chants, stoking them up. That isn't journalism."

    No it isn't. And that was not a reporter, that was an "opinion" guy. You really have to learn the difference. Every station has what they consider news reporters and opinion hosts. Fox is less biased than any other out there. And it's not supposed to be "friendly" to go on one or the other, it's supposed to be hard hitting, ask the tough questions.

    Fox is one of those you either love or hate it. So I doubt we'll change any minds here. Some don't think they are news and others do, but one opinion does not have any more credibility than the other.

    What IS a shame is the White House deliberately attacking a media group, or voters. That is beyond arrogant.
  • To SFC MAC
    Of course they had WMD's...but that ain't why we are in Iraq. It isn't even for the oil exactly even though that is a tiny part of it. Honestly the truth of why we are in Iraq and why we are still there is too much for the average person to understand and quite frankly if someone were to tell you why you would not believe them. Hell your own mother or father could tell you and you would not believe them. The only reason why I know is that I have multiple sources that have confirmed it to be true and I know of similar locations in other places on the Earth that have already been "handled" so to speak. All I can tell you right now is that Sadaam got his hands on something very important. Important enough for the US government to turn its attention from Afghanistan. The reason why the focus has shifted from Iraq to Afghanistan is not because Iraq is any more safe now or whatever reason they want to cook up it is because they have found what they were looking for and have now secured it. God this is so difficult not coming right out with what it is. I promise though if it looks like the right time to disclose this information I will.
  • ECC
    I haven't seen any proof of that, do you have any?

    I've seen many independents coming over to our side. Even the poll numbers support that. So your assertion is once again wrong.
  • @ECC
    East Coast,

    Again, I ask, and again you'll probably ignore the question, which is killing any credibility you might have had:

    What viewpoints do Rush and Beck have that do not agree with conservative values. What is making them "extremists" that you, as a conserviative, do not agree with?

    Focus!! Answer the question please!!
  • @East Coast Conservative
    I'd rather be associated with those "Limbaugh/Fox News nuts", than the Obama-owned MSM, who get 'tingles up their legs' and push every socialist agenda he has. SOMEONE has got to fact check and counter his propaganda machine. In spite of the shadow government in Washington consisting of MSM and Hollywood spin doctors trying to influence public opinion and debate through domination of the airwaves, conservative bloggers, pundits, and Fox News, are major thorns in THE ONE’s side. That’s what infuriates the effetes in the administration. How dare we check their facts and question their motives?

    The best disinfectant is sunlight. Obama had better get used to it.


    Things would be much better for conservatives if Fox News went back to the way it was at the begining, Rush went back to the way he was in 92, and Beck and Hannity and the rest just went away. We'd win more election and our nation wouldn't be facing the chaos we are now.
    By East Coast Conservative @ 10/19/09 02:30:30 PM
  • Perfect example: Fred Thompson v. Ron Paul
    Fox lost credibility with me when, during the Republican Primary, Fox invited all the top Republican Candidates, less Ron Paul, to a debate. In his place, they brought in Fred Thompson, who was spooled up in their hype machine for the months leading up to his announcement of candidacy. He had something like 15,000 votes and NO momentum, and Ron Paul had millions of votes and a strong following. Fox decided to give Thompson a shot instead of Paul, and that demonstrated an absolute agenda – an agenda that supports the Republican party’s survival and not the actual diversity of ideas which needs to be present to further an intelligent national debate. They knew that putting Paul up there would lead more intelligent conservative and libertarian voters away from the eventual nominee, and that would give the Dems a greater chance of winning, and so they kept him out of the spotlight. All that did was destroy his credibility as a viable candidate for the office of President.

    I dare any conservative out here to say they’d rather have McCain in office over Paul, or to say they’d rather have Obama in office over Paul. Please, let your voice be heard!

    Fox News did all of America a disservice when they silenced the strongest voice in the Libertarian movement the night they hosted the Republican Primary debate.
  • Fox News and Axlerod
    Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reily are NOT journalist and/or reporters. Anybody that has taken Journalism 101 OUGHT to know that. They are commentators - just like the editorial pages of the AJC and The New York Times. However, you don't hear Axlerod and The White House gang rail against the NYT, the LA Times and/or the AJC. That's because the editorial pages of those newspapers reflect the views of the Administration.

    Fox does a pretty good job in all of their NEWS programming to present BOTH sides of an argument. That is what real journalist are SUPPOSED to do. They aren't SUPPOSED to event news; they are SUPPOSED TO BE the news (i.e. Dan the man Rather). That conflicts with the Anointed Ones view of the flow of information.

    They (the White House) are NOT to be questioned on any subject. The American people (read Sheeple) are supposed to take in the load of crap this Administration shovels and consume in whole without questioning. Those news sources that present a possible alternate side or encourage people to think and/or question the Administration are suspect, and therefore threatening. So they should be discredited and labeled not a legitimate news source.

    Thankfully, many Americans now understand this. That's why they watch Fox News.
  • Re: Big Joe Williams “Can't anybody name one good thing about obama?! “
    I'll take a try at that.
    Let's see – hey!, He can read speeches off of a teleprompter.

    He's shown us absolute danger that is Statism.
    Unfortunately, we're also going to learn the HARD WAY about the absolute FAILURE that is Statism.

    He's shown that is it way more preferable to judge a person based on the content of their character rather that the color of their skin.
    i.e. people foolishly voted for him based on the color of his skin rather than wisely voting against him based on his extreme lack of experience.
    Again, unfortunately, we are all going to Pay for that lack of experience and lack of character.

    Okay, I guess none of those things are actually Good things about Fauxbama.
  • @Big Joe
    "For the last nine months, the anti-American, liberal democrats have been calling the American people "terrorists", "right-wing extremists", "racists", "brownshirts", "nazi's", and a "nation of cowards!"."

    No they are not calling the American people these things. The radical right wing can hardly be called representative of the American people and the radical right wing was the subject of these comments.

    The American people did not celebrate our loss of the Olympics, yet the radical right wing did. The American People were OK with our President being honored with the Nobel prize, yet the radical right wing complained and even demanded the award for themselves as Beck said that it should go to the Tea Baggers.
  • @" veteran"
    I am an Iraq war veteran (twice over), former Intel Analyst, (in counter terrorism), and retired Army Sergeant First Class.

    You're just another one of the ignorant fools who either didn't pay attention, or believes whatever Keith Olberrmann spews. Here are the facts:
    1) Declassified NGIC report:

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918

    2) 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm

    3) 1,500 gallons of chemical weapons agents:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html

    4) Chemical warheads containing cyclosarin:

    http://www.bizzyblog.com/PolishChemMunitions070204.html

    5) Over 1,000 radioactive materials in powdered form meant for dispersal over populated areas:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
    The rest here:
    http://sfcmac.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/no-lies-about-iraq/

    Now, go back to editing your profile on the IVAW site.
  • Candidates
    "They aren't turning anyone against our candidates unless they are not conservatives to begin with."

    Unfortunatly you're mistaken on this one. We've lost support from conservative people who have backed us for 20 years that will not now because they want nothing to do with those "Limbaugh/Fox News nuts".

    Things would be much better for conservatives if Fox News went back to the way it was at the begining, Rush went back to the way he was in 92, and Beck and Hannity and the rest just went away. We'd win more election and our nation wouldn't be facing the chaos we are now.
  • If Cronkite wouldnt fit in, it isn't journalism
    I'm sorry, I kind-of have to agree with Axelrod - though that doesn’t mean i agree that it is prudent for the White House to single out a "news" station.

    Fox has a definite right-leaning bias. A real news station would simply report facts... Period. No conjecture, no cheerleading, no "some people say" lead-in's. During the Tea Party protests, you didn’t see Fox remote reporters simply stating facts, showing the turnout... no, you saw them standing on flatbeds and shouting to the crowds, leading them in cheers, chants, stoking them up. That isn't journalism. Their entire prime-time lineup is Beck, Smith (a moderate), O'reilly, Hannity, and Greta (whose sole purpose is to follow the latest missing white girl case). When they do have a liberal come on, they only find the most unkempt, ugly, retarded persons they can find... like crypt keeper Alan Colmes. And who gave Steve Doocy a job? That dude is a complete idiot, along with all the other throwbacks on Fox and Friends. ...No liberal, centrist, or common-sense leaning at all on that show.

    They focus on flashy graphics, sound effects, and the hottest female anchors on the planet (which gets spoiled when Malkin and Coulter get on... they are just angry, unattractive women). That is how they get ratings... would you rather look at Chris Matthews, or look all up Gretchen Carlson's legs? They make sure to include them in all her camera shots (after all, she was a Miss America winner, and that makes you Fox-worthy, just like Carrie Prejean, or Survivor cast member Elizabeth Hasselbeck).

    CNN and MSNBC are certainly no better, but they don't BOAST about being fair and balanced when they aren't. They make no claims about seeing both sides of an issue fairly, and then go against those claims.

    So, from this perspective, I agree with Axelrod. Going on Fox is about as friendly as going on Limbaugh. Fox has an agenda. They get ratings by either standing up for the underdog (Bush), or bashing the incompetent administration (Obama), but in neither case are they objective. You didn't see Bush making the rounds on every station, only on Fox. Why? Because he knew where his friends were. Obama’s just returning the favor, and Fox is eating sour grapes because they now aren’t in bed with the White House.

    Yes, Fox’s NEWS news is pretty straight forward and fair, but that is simply the regurgitated reporting of the AP, BBC, and Bloomberg news sources that every cable news station reports. When it comes down to it, all their facts are basically the same, it is the commentary, specifically from dumb anchors, that separates Fox from the rest. The anchors focus on scare tactics and spend little time explaining or investigating, and more time asking questions that stoke insecurity and fear in their audience.
  • To butt
    I already know there are no aliens in Area 51. That is simply the facility where they incorporate "new" technologies into workable protypes. The only alien technologies that I know still exist out there is what is being worked on at S4 which is 10 or so miles south of A51. All the good stuff that has not yet been "sold" to tech companies has been distributed to other military controlled locations. I hate getting on this subject because people automatically start calling you all sorts of things, but part of the whole alien thing is true. I wish people would take the subject more seriously. Just a little inside info on S4...Cheney has been there and knows exactly what is going on there. ; )
  • Civil War (RE: a veteran)
    I can't let you get away with your argument that the war of the union over the confderate states was a civil war. Your definitions are sound, but your history isn't. The Confederacy was at that time a separate nation with a constitution, a currency, a president, and a congress. Those states had already seceded, so there was not one country involved in the war; there were two. White or not, nationalist or not. Now, based on your other statements, your viewpoints are clearly not even worth dignifying, but history is history. The "civil war" was not a civil war, no matter how much you hate Boortz (though here you are, posting on his website. hmm.)
  • Only the opinion shows are biased if any
    The news shows are pretty fair, much more so than any other channel. And opinion shows on ANY channel are going to have their agenda, hence the term "opinion".

    They aren't turning anyone against our candidates unless they are not conservatives to begin with.
  • Joe
    It was a "collective" now, encompassing the entire Obama regime. Oops, now Jimmy D will have to use his dictionary.
  • back to the...........................
    VETERAN......thanks for your service....now go back to the VA hospital......they mixed up your meds.....

    WMD in irack???? yep....RWR sold them some stuff.....he didn't (sandman hu-is-insaine)use all of it on the kurds an' weigh peeple.......

    and another thing......... can you prove there are aliens in area 51....me and IVAN want to kno'.......
  • re Big Joe
    He plays basketball like a nerdy white guy. That's kinda good, huh? Maybe it means he's smart?
  • I think I got it......................
    BIG JOE....................one good thing......he is only HALFwhite.....
  • Mattisben, where ya been?!
    For the last nine months, the anti-American, liberal democrats have been calling the American people "terrorists", "right-wing extremists", "racists", "brownshirts", "nazi's", and a "nation of cowards!".
  • Can't anybody name one good thing about obama?!
    Look folks, all I'm asking is for somebody to tell me just ONE good thing about obama. Is that so hard? Anyone?!
  • Fox News
    The sad part is that when they went on the air, Fox News was a good source of news. The liberal bias was nonexistant, and they presented all points of view even having their own Crossfire type show (Hannity and Combs). Their motto "we report, you decide" was sincere.

    Now unfortunatly they have sold out to the extremists, factual news reporting replaced with "opinion journalism" and extremist hosts (Beck and Hannity.

    Don't get me wrong, we need good news coverage that will report the good and bad about both sides. Just seems like Fox has sold us out and making the job harder for true conservatives as FNC turns people against our candiates.
  • Butt
    Man, you are killing me. Better examples than perky Katie, I'll admit.

    Joyce, all these whackos have been hunkering down just out of radar until now. It is an indictment on the true stance of the White House that these loons feel safe to spew their crap now.
  • Off topic...sorta
    If you want to have an idea about things to come watch this video...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5tflIA4W9c
  • news.....we don't need............................
    what we really neEd is a good honest.....WALTER CRONKITE or a DAN RATHER...........
  • question for casteye
    If Fox News is so insignificant, then why is the most powerful "man" in the world spending so much time attacking them?
  • Time to move on
    Snark is nothing but a progressive which is the worst kind of liberal in existence. Time to put him on ignore and talk about relevant issues.

    Like, does it not bother anyone other than me that Anita Dunn tells high school students how admirable Mao is?

    These are the kind of people we have in Washington right now.

    That's hysterical: tally-band and al's katerin'.......
    By butt neckid

    ROFLOL!!!
  • wonderful example snark
    So what exactly was your example supposed to prove?

    "To be fair, media outlets often use press releases as bases for their stories, especially when reporting on breaking news. Most outlets, however, identify the information as being part of a release."

    I'm pretty sure you're supposed to cite the original source of the information... which they did.

    WEAK
  • duhhhhhh........................
    IVAN........well thanks for pointing out the obvious......

    now we have to git everybuddy to watch the REAL news.......

    John Daily.......he don't git hiz stuff from nobuddy.......he jist pulls it from his ass....nobuddy dares to touch that.......

    did you get ice???.....and where the hell is RANDY????
  • Lapdog media
    "Very rarely did we communicate through the press anything that we didn't absolutely control," said Dunn.

    "One of the reasons we did so many of the David Plouffe videos was not just for our supporters, but also because it was a way for us to get our message out without having to actually talk to reporters," said Dunn, referring to Plouffe, who was Obama's chief campaign manager.

    "We just put that out there and made them write what Plouffe had said as opposed to Plouffe doing an interview with a reporter. So it was very much we controlled it as opposed to the press controlled it," Dunn said

    "Whether it was a David Plouffe video or an Obama speech, a huge part of our press strategy was focused on making the media cover what Obama was actually saying as opposed to why the campaign was saying it, what the tactic was. … Making the press cover what we were saying."

    Video of Dunn's remarks at the conference can be seen below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLR5jHlytRg&feature=player_embedded
  • Fox/Boortz etc.
    The problem with Fox -- and Boortz -- is the toxic misinformation they spread. Long after it was clear there were no WMD in Iraq, and that Saddam never had anything to do with 9/11, the Fox and talk radio guys were keeping the myths alive. Boortz has been wrong on so many things, it would be humorous except there are many bogging-head morons out there who think he knows something. Take one of his latest: that the American Civil War does not meet the definition of a "civil war," which Boortz says is two sides vying for control of a government. That isn't the definition -- from Wikipedia: "James Fearon, a scholar of civil wars at Stanford University, defines a civil war as 'a violent conflict within a country fought by organized groups that aim to take power at the center or in a region, or to change government policies.'" From other dictionaries: " A war between factions or regions of the same country." Yet Boortz likes to give comfort to his white nationalist followers. Twice during Clinton's years, terrorists struck big inside America (one Muslim wingnuts, one Christian wingnuts). Treated as police problems, the culprits were caught, jailed and, in some instances, executed. Bush, who Boortz worships, ignored clear warnings from intelligence officials about OBL's plans, America suffered a great attack, and Bush's misleadership failed to do anything other than recruit thousands of new terrorists and bog us down in two wars. The culprits have never been caught. And the war-loving patriots, such as Boortz, Limbaugh, Hannity, Cheney et al -- all dodged military service.
  • ivan is right
    I hate to break it to those of you who take Fox News or ANY of the main stream news as gospel because they all hide aspects of the truth to promote different corporate/political agendas.

    if you want to see how this came about watch this movie.

    http://video.aol.com/video-detail/orwell-rolls-in-his-grave/3033937675
  • Are we supposed to believe that the rest of the media are objective journalists?
    Are we supposed to believe that the other news sources aren't pushing a Leftwing viewpoint?
  • Real Journalism
    If you want to see real, unbiased journalism you must watch Katie....oh, I can't even type that with a straight face.
  • ReJoyce: “These days, one "ism" is pretty much the same as another, just varying degrees of left or right.”
    Not to beat a deceased equine, but that's a good reason to use the term “Statist”

    It means all of those ideologies that have a distinction without a difference.
  • check fo'...................
    MATTISBEN...........check fo' rats, roaches and crabs.........and quit drinkin' the home made stuff......

    that tingle was goin' down your leg.....check into depends.....removes alot of problems......
  • now if..........................
    as pissed off as the halfWHITE presidunce is at fox..........maybe he could direct that anger at amerikas enemies.....

    you know nancy, harry, barnyard.........oooh yea!! how about stinkin' muslims like the tally-band and al's katerin'.......
  • Fox is a news station...
    however if the information goes against the Republican party line in any way you can expect spin. This has unfortunately become the norm for the entire mainstream media. I hate to break it to those of you who take Fox News or ANY of the main stream news as gospel because they all hide aspects of the truth to promote different corporate/political agendas. Even people like Alex Jones and the REAL alternative media promote certain personal agendas. It gets extremely confusing from the Fox News side of things cause you have men like Glenn Beck that basically steals 99% of his material from Alex Jones and then attempts to put a "kosher" Republican spin on it and then proceeds to sell it as his own. If you are a fan of Glenn Beck you are AUTOMATICALLY a fan of Alex Jones because when you see Glenn Beck's mouth moving you know that Alex Jones said it first by default. The difference between the two is that Glenn Beck has to keep certain subjects closed whereas Alex Jones does not. The reason that Glenn Beck has to stay quiet is because if he talks about certain subjects like the FACT that 9/11 was an inside job Rupert Murdock and his gaggle of corporate fiends will swoop in and destroy Beck. Hell Beck has probably already signed his resignation notice in advance after he accidentally admited that the FEMA camps are indeed real and that they are for American citizens. He quickly changed his story after Murdock made the call. We are in troubling times right now because the people who control the media also know the truth that they cannot disclose. I cannot figure out if it is by their decision that information is withheld or if they are being threatened. I think it could be a little bit of both. Heavy stuff huh?
  • @Snarkybird
    "I understand it's hard for you rationalize something as being both popular and "right" when it does not adhere to your world view."

    Wow, project much, there, Snarky?
  • Fox is doing just fine
    They'll be knocking off the so-called network programs soon if the alphabet soup brigade can't get their act together and actually start reporting stories that don't necessarily make Anita Dunn happy. Investigate everything coming out of Washington instead of taking it at face value. You know, be a watch dog for the people like media is supposed to be!!!
  • Re: snarkybird @ 10/19/09 10:25:11 AM: “Just so you understand, this is the network who sat around one morning and discussed Glenn Beck's idea that Obama was a racist. “
    Are you claiming that it's impossible for Obama to be a Racist?
  • mattisben
    you mean i can't gargle with the dye? it makes me see all kinds of colors....
  • Pushing a point of veiw?
    Well, Mr. Axelrod, FoxNews is pushing a point of view. Can you be MORE vague as to what you are talking about? Honestly, this guy is yet another vacuous yes man who wants nothing but to push a point of view for (drumroll) money (money which is forcibly taken from the very people he is forsaking.) Shame on this clown named Axelrod.
  • @Snarks
    "Just so you understand, this is the network who sat around one morning and discussed Glenn Beck's idea that Obama was a racist."

    Nothing wrong with discussing something on a news channel. Just because you don't like the subject doesn't make it un-newsworthy, Mr. Bias.

    And by the way, Obama is a racist, without question. Let's put it in your liberal point of view: If a white man attended Klan rallies every week for 20 years, but claimed that he went, but didn't really agree with what they were saying, you'd rightfully cry "bunk!"

    But with Obama doing the exact equivalent with his church, I can literally visualize you covering your eyes, going, "Nope nope I don't see that, it's not really there, nope Obama isn't racist at all!"

    I can tell that you are fairly intelligent, especially for a liberal, but here your bias is affecting your view drastically.
  • Snarky, I'm waiting for THIS question to be answered:
    Could you please tell me just ONE good thing about obama? I'm waiting. Please post it here on the Boortz Bloggs for all to read. Love ya, and good luck!
  • Doc
    when in fact, he's really a fascist. just like the republican party.
    By tshirt-doctor.com

    These days, one "ism" is pretty much the same as another, just varying degrees of left or right.
  • Doc
    Don't stand so close to the dye vats. Obozo is a fascist. I don't have to scream it. I can cite evidence (GM takeover, BOA takeover, attempted healthcare takeover).

    liberals = hypocrite
  • rerockhound
    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fox_News_passes_off_GOP_press_0210.html

    you can stop waiting :-)
  • Its only rock-n-roll
    Perhaps Fox News is biased. Particularly when it comes to the commentators. But, if you don't like it, don't watch it. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Watch MSNBC instead.
    For me, I'll keep watching Fox News and continue to thank my lucky stars that there is a news channel that is willing to mock the establishment.
    We didn't have that back in the 60s.
  • refree2choose
    the part you leave out is that your "combined" numbers are prime time viewership.

    In other words, opinion programs, not strictly news.

    and they're all dwarfed by network news numbers.

    Fox news does dominate cable news - very true. But they do that by having very popular opinion shows during primetime.

    But "popular" gets skewed a bit when you include the big three networks regular programming. Compared with network news numbers...or say, any primetime entertainment shows, cable news numbers in general are rather small.
  • Liberalhater hates America
    Why do you hate America? It is a lovely country. However, nobody is keeping you here, I am sure iraq and its no debt government would gladly take you in
  • To "Free to Choose"
    I used the term "TV News Sources", not "Cable News Networks". This includes not only the usual cable news networks, but other sources too, including the broadcast networks. You can count the financial news networks too if you want, as well as some of the niche international news sources (including foreign language news services) that some cable and satellite services offer.

    Anyway, the network news broadcasts on CBS, NBC, and ABC regularly attract a combined total of about 25 million viewers. Fox News' top program, the O'Reilly Factor, attracts a little over 3 million. (rather than my posting a bunch of long URLs to cite sources, just Google "TV news ratings").

    So, yes, Fox News has a rabid fan club of loyalists, but in a nation of 300 million people, it is hardly the unstoppable force that some people claim it is. And if Fox News were as powerful as you think it is, why has the nation become bluer and bluer with each successive election since Fox went on air?
  • Republican Argument
    The formula for republican argument is to yell something long enough and loud enough for the opposition to tire of the silliness.

    OBAMA'S A SOCIALIST!!!
    OBAMA'S A SOCIALIST!!!
    OBAMA'S A SOCIALIST!!!

    when in fact, he's really a fascist. just like the republican party.
  • Axelrod and Fox News
    Nice try Axelrod but it is not good enough! The government take over of so many industries including the old media IS UNAmerican. Try to discredit your last critic to control every corner is actually Soviet. Hang tough FOX News the Bolsheviks want you gone!
  • ReSteve
    "I just felt a tingle run up my leg"

    Now that is objective journalism ;)

    liberal = hypocrite
  • Jimmy Doltan
    Jimmy,
    Do you have any intelligent remarks to make to these threads or are you just in a hurry to do your "drive by comments" so you can get back to your Dungeons & Dragons game in your mother's basement?
  • Re: Catseye
    Catseye, thank you for your attempt at using logic & reason to try to explain the success of Fox News. However, as you are probably a Liberal, logic & reason can never work for you. So here's a tip: as a Liberal you must stick to you roots of ignoring history & facts, and use only emotion to guide your thoughts.

    Now, about 2 seconds of research would show you that there are really only 4 competing cable news channels: FNC, CNN, MSNBC, and HLN. However, FNC beats the other 3 channels' ratings combined. Please throw your argument in the trash where it belongs and let educated individuals do the talking here.
  • Newsweek editorial
    That news week "article" was one of the more humorously idiotic pieces I've read in some time. Did that author actually use the phrase 'fair mindedness of the rest of the media' with a straight face? LOL, what bunch of delusion and ridiculous nonsense.
  • To Big Joe Williams
    You seem not impressed by his awesomeness? Maybe you just need to spend more time in his radiant awesomeness to get just how awesome his awesomeness really is. It truly is awesome.
  • Liberal Argument
    The formula for liberal argument is to yell something long enough and loud enough for the opposition to tire of the silliness. Then declare yourself the winner. No need for facts or evidence (Jessie and Al -vs- Duke LaCrosse team). I've seen 3-4 year olds use the same tactic.

    Chuck - great reference..."If I were the king of the forrreeest".

    Jimmy D - Your arguments are as weak as Axelrod's 'stache.

    liberal = hypocrite
  • rebigjoe
    You said "And people do not watch CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and the others because they are TIRED OF BEING LIED TO"

    Well, from purely a popularity standpoint, more people watch network news than any cable news. By huge margins actually.

    So, by your logic, it's a very small minority that is "tired of being lied to" as you put it.

    But, I am sure you will now retreat to the popular meme of "these people just need to wake up!" or "they're the dumb masses".

    I understand it's hard for you rationalize something as being both popular and "right" when it does not adhere to your world view.

    Try harder...
  • Axelrod is working AGAINST AMERICA as a whole
    2012 people. We need to render this maniac completely unable to do further damage. Vote VOTE VOTE VOTE. Let him sit there in his castle and make plans that will never happen.
  • disgusting
    I dont watch TV news.. but I must say I never thought I'd see the day when the united states government would use communist tactics like the ones every dictator in history has used to berate a news organization.

    Its amazing that freedom is so inconvenient to this administration that they would attempt to use their power to strong arm dissidents into silence.

    This is the makings of something evil.
  • @ Catseye
    I can't help but notice that you post on this site quite regularly if not daily. I find it rather amusing that you condemn viewers of Fox News saying, "those who watch the other news outlets actually have lives that are comprised of more than just sitting around hating people all day" all the while taking time from your day each day to make comments that you know most of the people here disagree with. Something about the pot calling the kettle black comes to mind here. I also appreciate that your comments seem to have no basis whatsoever. It seems to be a common theme amongst you and your likeness.
  • Propaganda.
    Isn't it strange to you people that our government is now trying to tell Americans what shows to watch and where they should and shouldn't get their news? Is this really what the American government has deviated into? Do they truly not have anything better to do? I hope one day, this country can once again have leadership.

    And people do not watch CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and the others because they are TIRED OF BEING LIED TO. THEY DO NOT TRUST THOSE PEOPLE TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH. Trust and respect are EARNED. And God, I know how the liberals hate the word "EARNED".

    Those government news channels are just like the Little Boy Who Cried "Wolf!". They've lost their credibility and it's their own damned fault.
  • Cat's eye
    Cat's eye- Sorry, I have to interrupt my Fox News watching, hating people all day life to go to work. We can't all sit home on the couch getting handed government issued "assistance" all day. And please provide examples of Fox News promoting "hate". Don't even start with Glenn Beck....he is telling us the truth and one of few people on TV not drooling and peeing themselves over how much they worship Obama.
  • Obama and His Slaves
    Isn't it entertaining how obama and his leftist government news people constantly attack Rush Limbaugh and FOX news? Why would they be so focused on silencing Rush and FOX unless they are...........RIGHT!

    Gosh, we've never had a president before who hangs out with terrorists, bows and apologizes to America's enemies, steals citizens auto dealerships, imports jihadi terrorists at the cost of the American taxpayer, takes credit for writing a book that was actually written by a known terrorist, constantly attacks Rush Limbaugh and FOX news, said he would "disarm America", is working hard to bankrupt the United States, and is a compulsive liar.

    Just damn. Isn't there ANYTHING good about this kid? It looks like he's attacking the United States. That's just what it looks like. But, I've been wrong before. But, like an umpire...I just call'em like I see'em.

    Could somebody please tell me just ONE good thing about this dude? I at least want to know just ONE good thing about our illegal so-called "president". I don't know any. I'm all ears.......
  • and Snarky...
    They should up your meds and take away the keyboard and for God's sake put your hospital gown back on!
  • @Jimmy
    Back on track?? Where to?? Financial ruin?? Yeah sure Bush had $500B deficit but Barry bested him there.

    Would you buy a house and sign a blank piece of paper to be filled out later by the mortgage company? I'm sure you would since you seem to think there is nothing wrong with the track we're on having elected officials signing our future away.
  • You Liberals Are Funny
    I love the accusations of "Faux News". I'm going to give you a chance here. Tell me of an example, and that's an example you can back up with hard evidence and not something you read on MediaMatters, of where the news being reported on Fox is fake. I'm not talking about the opinion shows, I'm talking about the actual news. I'll wait.
  • American news isn't really a news channel.
    Networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN are more interested in providing updates about American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. On the morning news we see idiotic stories about how some reporter can "get back" with 50 dollars in his pocket. Who cares, honestly. We wake to the screams of masses of people standing outside on the streets, while some weather man talks in front of the crowd. And of course the endless Michael Jackson stories persist long after his passing. And if the weather is bad, then suddenly there is nothing except 24-hour non-stop weather and traffic coverage in the TV news. All other news in the nation and the world suddenly "stops happening".

    And I don't even need to talk about the extreme Liberal bias that is shown by our media. So much bias, and "political correctness" that our society, troops, and country is placed in harm's way. The media is so biased and one-sided that they don't even care if they alienate 1/2 of their viewers and anger people that should be buying the goods and services of their advertisers.

    Yep, if I want real, comprehensive, unbiased, local or international news I turn to the internet, or the BBC. American news is a joke.
  • Fox Ratings
    Let's stipulate for the moment that almost all TV media outlets have a left wing bias. Well, if there are 8 left wing TV news sources, and 1 conservative TV news source, which one do you THINK would win the ratings?

    The multitudes of "left wing" TV outlets are fighting for the same viewers; Fox, on the other hand, has very little competition for those in a certain position on the political spectrum.

    Fox also benefits from the fact that so many of its viewers watch Fox 24/7 (unless they take a break to listen to Rush), while those who watch the other news outlets actually have lives that are comprised of more than just sitting around hating people all day.
  • Fox News is Wrong
    You guys don't seem to get it. Fox IS the only biased media outlet because it is the only one that doesn't blindly go along with the rest of the media. Anyone who honestly thinks that any media outlet isn't at least somewhat biased in one fashion or another is kidding themselves. However, because most of the media leans towards the left then their views are used for the benchmark of what is "unbiased". FNC disagrees, therefore they are biased. Jimmy, once again you fail to see the bigger picture. And no, I don't watch Fox News.
  • Chuck the crybaby
    How does it feel to be dumb enough to believe this is my real name? Obviously you havent seen me on in a while. And this is the reason why conservatives are seen as the biggest morons in trailer parks.
  • rePete
    Well, if you're right in saying "People are tuning into the news they prefer, and not the news they dislike."

    then Fox news is among the midgets of popularity compared with network news programs.

    http://www.journalism.org/node/1363
  • reFrankGriffin
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    You called Fox News "...the area of ideas."

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    Man, thank you. That was awesome.

    Just so you understand, this is the network who sat around one morning and discussed Glenn Beck's idea that Obama was a racist.

    Yes, area of ideas... if you're ideas happen to be craven and shallow and inspire the worst in all to the benefit of the GOP.

    most folks decide not to call those ideas simply because it paints them with to plain a brush.
  • Even if they have an agenda...
    ... with their commentary programs, for the most part the actual news programs are much less biased than those of CNN and MSNBC.

    Personally I think ratings speak louder than politcal banter though. People are tuning into the news they prefer, and not the news they dislike.
  • Writer
    Notice how he mentions that he won't even try to defend his position on FOX. A cowardly move if I ever saw one. Kinda like Gore and his idea that the topic is already decided so no need for any debate on the issue EVER!

    The writer is a fraud. Liberals cannot debate in the area of ideas.
  • A news station is supposed to report the news.
    And this explains MSNBC how???
  • reJimmy
    Popularity contest? You mean like the last election? We get the best of all worlds with the Tin Man, the Straw Man, and the Cowardly Lion and you want to lecture us about how ratings are a popularity contest? Go watch your tivo American Idol Jimmy. And how does it feel being named after a slang term for a condom?
  • they all suck
    http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/251761/mon-october-12-2009-janet-napolitano

    (first segment)

    Fox just sucks more. Anyone who thinks Fox is a real news station without an agenda is a moron.

    CNN just sucks. They're a lapdog. Fox is a rottweiler guarding the GOP house.
  • Fox Isn't "Real" News?
    That's okay. Obama isn't a real president.
  • Crybabies and ratings
    I love how crybaby conservatives always bring up ratings. Conservatives are all about a popularity contest while liberals are trying to get this country back on track
  • Catseye
    I am not sure if you are correct saying that Bush did not allow his folks on MSNBC. Let's assume you are right, the Bush white house never attacked MSNBC.
  • Why doesn't the Administration...
    ...just go ahead and sign an executive order suspending the First Amendment rights of Fox News?
    In the administration's view, Fox is fomenting violence, and worse yet,racism. Why, if that isn't the moral equivalent of shouting "Fire" in a crowded movie theater, I don't know what is.

    Really, Obama and company need to put up or shut up. Coem out of the closet you cowards and tell us that free speech and freedom of the press aren't as important as your agenda.
    If Fox wants to editorialize all day, why is that any of the governments business? If they refuse to drink the PC Kool-
    Aid, so what?

    If they're actually trying to start some violence, then is it not Obama's responsibility to step in?
  • Real News
    Yeah, that's right. A real news station offers infomercials for the messiah without rebuttal (ABC). A real news station backs fabricated evidence against their political opponents (CBS). A real news company hires and backs plagiarists (NYT). A real news outlet runs with internet lies without fact checking, but will fact check comedy spoofs. (CNN).

    I severely doubt that you will find anywhere near the ethical problems and bias obfuscation on FNC as the other outlets. The WH is just upset that there happens to be someone out there that will actually question them rather than cheerlead like good little state propaganda puppets.
  • I Love the way
    Fox News strikes fear in America hating libtards.
  • To Brian re:The truth hurts
    How are those viewership numbers over at MSBNC, CNN?

    How are those book sales doing that promote the left's agenda? Rocking the NYT best seller list I suppose?

    I watch the BBC all of the time. And I admit Fox news sucks with Whoraldo and Shep taking up airtime. Hannity is worthless and repetitive, O'Bloviator is full of himself.

    But you know what? Fox news is the only cable news service asking the tough question, while Wolf Blitzer fact checks SNL skits for accuracy in case anyone may have had their opinion of his awesomeness dinged a bit.
  • Just 'cuz they say it....
    They keep attacking Fox News, and FNC keeps beating their brains in on the ratings. They never seem to bring that point out.
  • Give Me A Break!
    News = Saying whatever the White House wants you to say.

    Right Wing Agenda = Reporting anything other than what the White House wants you to say.

    Yeah, that sounds about right!
  • All news is not news anymore
    And Fox is just as bad as the rest of them if not worse.
    Fox is the only news organization that has a policy of falsifying facts.
    Even though ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC don't fact check, Fox outright lies about facts.

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/rbgh/fox-news.cfm
  • reBrian
    Ooohhhh...way to get over on us! That chickensh@* MSNBC, CBS, CNN, and the rest of the networks try to pass off as 'legitimate news' just does not float, amigo. Ever try watching Chris Wallace? Ever heard of Juan Williams? Seen Shepard Smith report the news after 7 pm? No! You haven't and you won't because they don't give us enough differing opinions regarding what is news rather than report it as they want you to hear it( ala: the left)that we can decide for ourselves what we think is real and what is not. Does Fox jazz it up to make it sexier? Sure, why not? When you have intelligent, attractive women on your network, use it to your advantage. You're just pissed because Keith Olbermann doesn't answer your fan mail. You should stop sending him your underwear, dude.
  • Fox News
    Fox is the only network willing to report the whole news. The presidency, according to Chris Wallace, is a set of cry-babies who can't stand ANY news which is contrary to their agenda. With all of the challenges of this nation right now, Obama has time to take a news network to task? For what?
  • Axelrod
    Axelrod is a slimy political operative that has abolutely NO credibility with me. Besides, he looks like a very bad caracature of a 1950's insurance salesman.
  • Jimmy
    "It is like watching a kid in elementary school that complains about everything."

    Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote this?
  • Truth hurts, doesn't it?
    Ahh, how predictable. The typical whiny response from the Republitards when someone finally calls them out. Anyone with an IQ over 50 has known from day 1 that Faux News is nothing more than the PR department for the republitard party. It's funny how they are afraid to even listen to real news organizations, not just the American networks, but foreign news organizations also. They have known far longer than than the U.S. what a con man Rupert Murdoch is.

    The truth is, Faux News belongs in the back row alongside such bastions of journalism as The National Enquirer and Weekly World News. And the truth hurts, doesn't it?
  • FIX THE CODE
    Why can't WSB get the security code problem fixed? It shouldn't take 3 attepts to post a comment.
  • FOX
    I watch FOX for my news, and I'll be the first to admit that they do have a moderately conservative bias. However, it's much less pronounced than the extreme left-leaning bias shown by all the other cable news stations and networks. In short, while FOX is not perfect, they come closer to presenting the truth than anyone else.

    I REALLY wish that there was a news organization that would simply present the facts, challenge BS on all sides when they smell it, and leave the decision-making up to me. I don't need a goofball from journalism school telling me how ta o think.
  • Not news?
    Seems like they are ALL news outlets...

    According to Merriam-Webster:

    1 a : a report of recent events b : previously unknown information c : something having a specified influence or effect
    2 a : material reported in a newspaper or news periodical or on a newscast b : matter that is newsworthy
  • More right wing hypocrisy . . .
    The Bush administration did not allow its people to appear on MSNBC . . . Former GOP-Congressman and now MSNBC morning host Joe Scarborough acknowledged as much on his broadcast this morning.
  • I stayed at the Omni in Atlanta recently.
    By the way, it's called CNN Center. There were CNN shops and a tour of CNN if you wanted. I didn't.

    There was a t-shirt in one of the shops that almost made me spew my coffee:

    CNN
    It's called journalism.

    Yeah, right.
  • could be serious
    if the WH pushes this idea, they could end up billing FNC for "donations in kind" to the repub party. It would be an end run around the fairness doctrine (or lack thereof).

    It would be a stupid move on their part, but forgive me if I don't think that will stop them from considering/trying it.
  • Duh
    A news station is supposed to report the news. All the people on fox news do is cry like conservative crybabies. It is like watching a kid in elementary school that complains about everything.
  • Axelrod
    is not really a man. So I guess I can whip his useless stalinist ass with self righteous reactionary populist impunity if he ever gets within arm's reach of me.

    By the way I detest Fox news, I just wanted an excuse to express mean spirited domestic terrorism based hate of an administration figure. What an FN ferret faced M efer.
  • of course it ain't a news station
    just like their opponents aren't news stations either.

    but they won't tell you that, because they decide whats news and what isn't news.
  • Ahh...repeat the mantra, drink the Koolaid...
    Coming from a shameless hack like Axeldork, that's pretty much all the Democrats can come up with. He's counting on people like 3mbw, who probably never actually watches Fox,to nod their heads in unison. I smell desperation from the Left. You know you can't win based on the merits of your arguements so you try to turn it around. I wonder how bad things have to get before they mass for a banzai charge? By the way 3, thank you for making my points for me with your lame rebuttal on Friday. Being wrong isn't so bad unless you are too blind to see it. And you, my dear, have designer blinders on.
  • Axlerod
    He's a good example of how people act when they simply can't compete in the realm of ideology, nor refute the evidence. You just discount those who expose your flaws.
    ps---LMAO at FoxNews' soaring ratings. Yeah....GOOD IDEA, WHITE HOUSE! ATTACK! LOL
  • That's OK
    Obama is not real president that loves his country. He seems to be filled with self hate as an American and takes every opportunity to show disrespect to America and Western values. Who needs freedom or liberty when we have his awesomeness? BTW - I'm still waiting for my free gas and Obama taking over my mortgage payment. WDF is wrong with them up in DC?
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