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NOW HOV LANES ARE RACIST!

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Neal Boortz
@ September 23, 2009 7:52 AM
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Yesterday we learned that heat in Phoenix, Arizona is racist. Yup. The headline read something like "Heat affects Poor and Minorities the Most." Like somehow we are to believe that heat discriminates based on how much light reflects off your skin or how many wheels you have on your house.

Today's asinine headline comes to us from Arlington, Virginia: "Race a Factor in HOT Lanes." What is an HOT lane? It is a High Occupancy Vehicle lane that you have to pay a toll in order to ride. I guess that means "High Occupancy Toll." Now since you have to pay to drive in these lanes, they are said to benefit wealthy white people and therefore are a symbol of discrimination.

A lawsuit has been filed claiming that these HOT lanes discriminate. Court attorneys argue that HOT lanes, "encourage and enable a financially-able, privileged class of suburban and rural, primarily Caucasian residents from Stafford and Spotsylvania counties operating single occupancy vehicles ("SOV") unimpeded access on toll lanes."

The suit also claims that the actions of the Federal Highway Administration and the Virginia Department of Transportation "constituted civil rights violations as they discriminated against minority and low income communities."

Wait a minute! A civil rights violation? Well, then ... wouldn't that mean that minorities are having their civil rights violated every single time some hideous white person can afford to buy something or use a service that some poor minority can't? Maybe those homes out there in those suburbs are civil rights violations themselves?

This lawsuit should be thrown out and the attorneys who brought it sanctioned. It won't and they won't. More to say on this on the show.

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  • Discrimination
    If it is considered discrimination to minorities that are unable to afford to drive in the HOV the I want equal rights to assist with my student loans.

    I grew up with parents working two jobs 70 hours a week to enable me private education while continuing to pay for public school.

    I then, after graduation went to a private university where my parents made just barely too much for the government to assist in the costs of my schooling qualifying me for only private loans.

    Now I have the blessed privilege to work my butt off every day and my wife to come up short to make ends meet.

    I would have it no other way, I may be in debt, I may be struggling, but I am proud of my accomplishments and contribute the best I can to support the economy by exchanging money hand to hand. When man sinned, the Bible says we will work by the sweat of our brow!

    Yes, and I enjoy being able to elect which health care benefits I am able to have and pay what I can...this is my right.
  • Hot Lanes
    As a resident and someone who lives in the Northern Virginia area. I deal with the traffic everyday. And the people who have the money for these Hot Lanes are the same people who live in and around the Faifax and Loudoun County where the median house hold income is 90k to 100k. So be it if they want to pay the extra money, good all over them. Less traffic for me and my commute on the Greenway.
  • Traffic volume relationship
    At 55 mph, a typical freeway lane can handle around 2200 vehicles an hour. The Beltway has four lanes in each direction where the HOT lanes will be built. So one direction can handle 8800 vehicles an hour at 60 miles an hour. Funny thing is, peak capacity is rarely achieved from a pest called rush hour. Next will sound like some rambling, but unless one has had any traffic engineering course(s), the idea is hard to grasp. Please google hockey traffic stick graph to see how speed and traffic volumes are related. Now, let's build two more lanes, but charge a toll. Let's not even think about peak capcity rates vs non-peak capacity toll rates. The 2 lanes will probably never reach 4400 vehicles an hour (2200* 2 lanes). Let's say max 50% usage. That gives us 2200 vehicles an hour, and 2200 vehicles an hour off the 'free' road. So when you look at the volume-speed relationship, the folks that chose to travel the 'free' road faster than before the HOT lanes where built. If you ask me, those'priviliged' idiots paying money are the fools. But hey, the folks filing the lawsuit do not have the capacity to think about it except the buck in front of thier nose. Look into California HOT lanes where it all started. The same type of arguements where made, and folks soon realized that HOT lanes are a blessing in disguise.
  • Response to Sagar
    "Yes, it does. Basic physics. Dark colors absorb more heat/light than light colors."

    This law of physics does not apply to skin. It is called "black body radiation" and it only applies to objects and materials. The reason certain objects are a particular color, let's say - red, is because they absorb all of the different (color) wavelengths of light except the long wavelengths of red light, which get reflected back, hence the object appears red. Black bodies are black because the absorb ALL of the wavelengths of the color spectrum and reflect none, (basically the absence of any color). Since these black bodies reflect none of the energy in the color spectrum, they emit their energy in the form of heat, infrared radiation. The material has to actually absorb the infrared radiation and store it in order to be able to radiate that much heat back out and skin simply does not do that, regardless of color. Studies have looked into it and determined dark skin does not absorb any more energy than does light colored skin, and thus will not radiate any more heat after the exposure to sunlight.
    So, in short, I guess at least the laws of physics are not racist. But I'm sure someone in the Democratic Party will figure out a way to change that.
  • HOV lanes vs HOT lanes
    Living in Northern Virginia and taking advantage of the HOV lanes you mentioned in your column, I have a different perspective than what people in Atlanta can possibly fathom regarding these HOV lanes. The HOV lanes referred to in your column are two dedicated lanes with specific entrances and exits separated from north/south I-95 traffic - going north in the morning and returning south in the afternoon. Three people are required to drive in the HOV lanes. Atlanta has a lot of traffic (I lived there for 6 years before moving here in 1999), but, you can't imagine I-95 during rush hour -- it doesn't move. The people of Northern Virginia have instituted a program called slugging. How long it's being going on, I'm not sure; but, I've used it since 1999 when my co-workers finally convinced me to try it. It didn't take me long to realize it was the way to go. We park our cars in commuter lots and stand in lines which go to different parts of the metro DC area. Drivers come by and pick us up and drop us at set places. In the afternoon, we go to these places and other drivers come by and pick us and take us back to our specific commuter lot. It's a perfect system for Northern Virginia. For as long as it has been in effect, there have been no incidents. It works like a charm. Now, most of us "slugs" do not want the HOT lanes. Why? Because our HOV lanes will be clogged like the north/south lanes of I-95 on a given day. First, they let people who bought the conserve-fuel cars on (with special tags and a fee). You would think the conservationists would be concerned with saving fuel and the planet, but, that's not the case as few, if any, of those cars have more than one person in them. They just add to the traffic. It's moving people to/from the metro area and taking cars off the road. That's what we do in the HOV lanes. When someone picks up two people for the drive in, that's two cars that are not in traffic. Opening up HOT lanes will just clog up the HOV lanes and slow down traffic. We ride with all kinds of people, of all races, creeds, etc. I've heard my share of loud rap and Christian music, but, I just settle in and read a book until I get to my destination. My favorite saying is -- if it ain't broke, don't fix it. NO TO THE HOT LANES!
  • HOT Lanes
    OMG!!!! Is it ever going to stop? How long have they had these lanes and now all of a sudden it is a problem? Get a grip people!!!!
  • White Only Lanes
    I have to drive down Old National Highway regularly, and most of the drivers along that stretch are so bad and dangerous that I would be in favor of "White Only Lanes," and I would be more than glad to pay for them.

    Then, "those other people" could turn left from the right hand with no turn signal as much as they want. U-Turns? No problem. Pulling out and blocking one lane of traffic until the other lane stops and lets you go the rest of the way? Fine. MARTA buses holding you up? Drunk or on drugs? Want to drive slowly side-by-side to flirt as though Freaknik is still in town? Like to cruise?

    Do what you want when I'm in the white only lanes.
  • The conservatives has ideas...media just won't cover them!
    "Hmmmm I wonder which political party sits and whines about everything the democratic party does w/out offering a solution."

    Ohh, there are other solutions offered. It is simply the liberal media that won't report on it.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277551107536875.html

    http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4467/Default.aspx
  • Certainly not 'racist' but.....
    HOV lanes(in Calif.,at least)are built with everybody's tax dollars, yet you must carpool or pay an additional toll to use them. Open them all up to single drivers, rich, poor, black, white, asian, everybody. Every taxpayer built them, every taxpayer should be able to use them without restriction or additional fee.
  • jist passed it..........................
    JT CORNPONE...........Joyce M/B gots it...she'll burn it down so be quick.....
  • Race a factor in HOT lanes
    I didn't see a single mention of either NASCAR or Hot Wheels ... bummer.

    Hey Butt, that offer still good to swap a swig for a toke? I got me a fresh jug of Kickapoo Joy Joose
  • heeeey those chrome wheels make the house......
    damn it boortz............I stole those chrome wheels an' give 'em to my wife for our anniversery.......they make this ol' double wide look reel classy....
  • next on the list - Vanilla
    As an adjective, denotes plain, ordinary, or free of complications, such as a home loan application where the applicant(s) status is solid in every way germane to the approval process.
  • Hot Lanes Racists
    The really pathetic aspect of this insanity is that the white people this garbage is aimed at will probably agree with it and then go back to watching their ballgames! There is no fixin' stupid!
  • Heat may not be racist, but it discriminates!
    While I agree it is asinine to complain about toll roads, Neal is wrong on: "Like somehow we are to believe that heat discriminates based on how much light reflects off your skin"

    Yes, it does. Basic physics. Dark colors absorb more heat/light than light colors.
  • Aren't poor-people..
    Aren't poor-people /supposed/ to be in the minority? I mean, that is a good thing, right?
  • Attorney Needed
    I'm suing Betty Crocker and Duncan Hines. How dare they make a dark chocolate Devils Food cake and a white Angel Food care. Notice the racist spin on the names?
  • The next Black revolution
    Will be directed at liberal politicians, race pimps, the liberal media, and trial lawyers that have for years kept the racism pot simmering for their own benefit. These people are worse than the slave owners. At least the slaves in the ante-bellum South were allowed to be free in their mind. Now the liberals tell them what they must think and believe and that enslaves completely.
    The next Black revolution will come when enough Black men and women say enough. Enough trying to take care of us. Enough telling us what to think and believe and who to vote for. Enough making excuses for the behavior you have promoted. Enough telling us that we need you for every aspect of our existence.
  • 2 things..
    First, seems that in order to constitute actual discrimination there needs to be real intent to do so. Second, the suit implies that blacks (or other minorities) are all destined to be poor.

    Really?
    Sucks to be a minority then, eh?
  • Racist
    #1--I wonder how many minorities have jobs because of those HOT lanes?

    #2--There should be not only a HOT lane, but a BAD lane...'Bad Asian Drivers' only.
    Now, before you call me 'racist'...you're wrong. I'm a STEREOTYPER. And remember....the only reason people hate STEREOTYPES is because they're TRUE.
  • @ Big Joe Williams
    Your post brought to mind the old Dr. Pepper commercial: "I'm a racist, he's a racist, she's a racist, we're a racist, wouldn't you like to be a racist too?"
  • That's all, I'm moving to Europe.
    It's socialist too but at least they like older women. Whoops, sexist and ageist!

    Seriously, I grieve for this once great country. I'm old enough to remember when I was proud of it, even during my hippie days in the 70s. We might have been wrong about a few things (vietnam comes to mind) but we were strong and proud. Now we're truly a bunch of yelping crybabies and nansy-pansies who try to console the spoiled brats.

    Why oh why didn't we put a stop to welfare (afdc, medicaid, now cell phones for the poor poor pitiful poor) 40 years ago? Support yourself, get charity, or die. It's just that simple.
  • Stop The World. I Want to Get Off
    First things first. To those who scoff at the first story because it links to a Criag's List site, here is a more legit site on the racist sun story:http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=11164531&nav=HMO5Xzz7 Here's what's funny about this. If the poor and minorities find Phoenix too hot, move. That's right. Move. This is the wonderful thing about this country. Don't like where you live, move. It really is that simple. If it's too hot, pack up and move to the Dakota's or Montana or even Alaska. It's nice and cool in those states. Hell, move to upstate Arizona. It snows in Flagstaff.

    As for this other lunacy, I have decided that everything on God's green earth is racist. Let's accept that and move on. It's quicker than arguing. Because trying to argue facts and logic with liberals would be like trying to teach my dog calculus. With the exception that after a while my dog would actually start getting calculus.
  • This is F-ing Retarded
    BUT...like PETA being a joke now, the more ridiculous this "RACISM" thing becomes, the more irrelevant it becomes...
  • ?
    What's the big deal? Most of the minorities take Public Transit system anyway?
  • I hope ACORN does sue!
    Then O'Keefe can request documents that ACORN would probably not like to have made public! He says "bring it on"!
  • toll roads
    Doesn't that also mean that any toll road or bridge is racist also?
  • Really, Neal?
    Your first link about Phoenix goes to a post on Craigslist! Is the budget so tight on your show that you can't afford researchers anymore? The next thing you know, you'll be posting supporting links on Craigslist from some guy offering tug jobs in the men's room backstage at the Riverdance ABBA tribute show to prove that Obama's healthcare plan will bankrupt male prostitutes.
  • Wah Wah Wah
    Republicans are such crybabies. This is obviously a case that will be thrown out on summary judgment. I dont know why republicans care so much about stupid stuff like this. Civil rights violations are also when one political party thinks they aren't being treated fairly. Hmmmm I wonder which political party sits and whines about everything the democratic party does w/out offering a solution. I smell republicans hiring attorneys right now.
  • Privileged?
    Spotsylvania and Stafford are not places where privileged white folks live. Housing is way cheaper there. It is a place where maybe upper middle class people live. Commutes are very long from there but people were forced to move there because of the housing bubble a few years ago. There is also a lot of military there... and Republicans. Maybe that is what the REAL issue is. Privileged white folk can afford to live closer to DC. The very poor qualify for housing closer to DC.
  • Keep it coming!
    I love it! For the last 8 months, the Obama administration and the government media screamed "CRISIS!" about everything. Remember, folks? It was "CRISIS THIS!" and "CRISIS THAT!, HERE A CRISIS, THERE A CRISIS, EVERYWHERE A CRISIS CRISIS!". The government media and the commies chant "CRISIS!" at every oppurtunity.

    Now, they're moving away from "CRISIS!" and taking us into "RACISM!".
    Now, everything is "RACIST THIS! RACIST THAT! HERE A RACIST, THERE A RACIST, EVERYWHERE A RACIST RACIST!".

    And that's why foreigners hate our country. Cause it is ran by children. Crybaby adults who must deviate at every turn on every issue. How can you have a normal, decent, logical conversation or debate with any adult who pulls this "RACIST!" crap. How do you take them seriously? Are we supposed to trust these yelping crybabies?

    Support it folks. Because the more they use that word, the less impact and meaning it has. Let THEM wear it out. Sooner or later, it's gonna be like the little boy who cried "wolf!". Nobody's gonna take them seriously.

    Hey, I thought the asphalt those cars were drivin on is "BLACK!". Silly racists.

    KEEP IT COMING!
  • Heat and Racism
    So now are wealthy people going to get a pat on the back for combating global warming by having large lawns? Will we see headlines saying they have been living greener for years? I am counting on seeing that headline in the NY Times.
  • Can't they see
    That this kind of absurdity only helps to spread and/or create bigotry? How many people out there who would never consider themselves bigots or prejudiced are slowly adopting those attitudes because they are tired of the incessant victimhood parlayed into a meal ticket by the so called "poor and minorites"? Wait! Maybe that's a "racist" question?
  • HOT lanes
    So, somebody is whining because they can't pay tolls?

    Sorry.

    This is an interesting suit, though. One of the methods proposed by the enviromental crowd is to use tolls to modify driver behavior. And this impacts a Georgia DOT project that is passing into the construction phase right now.
  • On HOv lanes n heat n rain
    Oh u miss this on tv news some black man said the flood is Racist caused it pick on us poor folks n not the rich....and said are floodin was caused by George Bush for lettin this happen.and use katrrina in the atlanta floods.
  • More mindless libtardism...
    Next up: whites and others living in wealthy gated suburban communities where no blacks live will be called racist (oh wait Boortz already hinted at that LOL!). Then after that: country music concerts and country bars where no blacks attend will be called racist. Then after that: whites boating on Lake Lanier and anchoring in Cocktail Cove where no blacks hang out will be called racist.

    Does no whites hanging out in a south west Atlanta hip hop bar mean that bar and those in it are racists? Of course not. What morons throwing the R word around so mindlessly. The latest on the ACORN situation, which we ALL know is blatantly racist, is that Ms. CEO Bertha says they will sue the undercover videographers for entrapment and Fox News for broadcasting it. The last I heard, "entrapment" can only be used in an against law enforcement. Libtards are such idiots.
  • HOT lanes
    How long until someone files suit against the Georgia DOT against the toll on GA400? It's a shame making all the minorities drive around I-285 to I-85 just to get from downtown to N. Fulton and vice versa. But wait! Maybe the property owners/developers of the northern metro counties pressured the State into putting the toll there (and leaving it indefinitely) in attempt to limit minorities from moving into northern Fulton and Forsyth counties knowing that they couldn't afford to pay the toll everyday. Brilliant!
  • That first link is to an Orlando Craigslist post.
  • Yes! It is true!!
    Obama is the great equalizer.

    He does not help his brother out, simply because his brother is living the ideal life that every American should live!

    We all need to be equal in everything. All live in grass huts, walk to work 1 mile from home, and everyone treated the same.

    It is unfair that we have HOV lanes, First Class airline seats, Box seats at the football game, Macy's and other upscale stores, Luxury cars, etc... the list goes on and on.

    If we would give up all those things, and be brought low by the great equalizer, then everyone would be happy right?

    "Everybody ought to have the same amount of stuff."

    The only ones that should have marble floors, solid gold toilets, food flown in from Antarctica, live music at beck and call 24/7, etc... are those up the upper echelons of government.

    The rest of us can have grass huts and eat rice every day.
  • ree (f'n) diculous
    its getting pretty funny out here.i just hope the right doesnt go this route when theres a black man,women republican president.thats right! "democratics are racist AND sexist" RUN CONDY RUN" did i say that outloud?.in this case all toll roads are racist because here in oklahoma we have tolls coming out of our wazoos.but we can take the slower less traveled road in most cases if we CHOOSE!!.route 66 is beautiful this time of year ..HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE!
  • lane meyer
    two dollars, I want my two dollars
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