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AND GIVE UP THIS "IT WAS THE LESSON PLAN" NONSENSE

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Neal Boortz
@ September 9, 2009 9:02 AM
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I'm sorry .. but this is about as lame as it gets. This chorus of "it wasn't the speech, it was the lesson plan" line the opponents of Obama's speech came up with yesterday would have been funny if it hadn't been so pathetic. Here's just one of the emails we received yesterday:

"The problem isn't Obama's speech. We knew all the time it would be very warm and fuzzy-innocuous, if you will. The real issue and problem is the teacher instructed fact sheets/student study guides and their scary agenda."

Grow up and admit it .. you blew this one. Obama and the Democrats played you like a banjo. Admit it and move on ... there's a government takeover of health care that needs to be fought.

Before we move on ourselves ... another email:

"Your attack on those that were opposed to the President and his minions original plan of propogandizing school children is eerily similar to Arianna Huffington's journey to kooksville. I hope you are not becoming the male version of Arianna."

By the way .. .my Townhall.com column yesterday "Republicans get Rolled ... and Deservedly So" was the second most read column on Townhall.com yesterday and received the second highest number of comments --- most negative. I was beat out in both categories by Thomas Sowell. There's just no way I could ever measure up to Thomas Sowell.



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  • Quote from Batty
    ["The speech Barack gave was not suited for all school aged students. It seemed to be for inner-city teens in the last couple yrs of school."]

    And (I) thought I was the only one who thought that!!

    Say what you want kiddies...but that speech was one sided and bias...

    You people will find out AFTER the fact....and youll be standing there, looking stupid, saying "What happened"?!?!...

    Ya know.....its always best to get the burglar alarm BEFORE you get robbed..Once you get robbed, whats the use in a burglar alarm??.....so they dont hit you again??...

    Hell, theyve ALREADY gotten what they wanted...
  • Disappointed
    Neal, I've become increasingly disappointed in you lately.

    First you attack good citizens of the United States who want nothing more than for Barack Obama -- a public servant -- to show evidence that he is legally qualified for the job he has been given. He works for the citizens of this country. There is nothing wrong if those citizens want to see his credentials. They aren't crazy. Belittling them like you do is hardly the action of someone who truly supports the Constitution.

    When the tea parties were getting underway, you ridiculed them as well, and said they were wasting their time. They were PROTESTING -- a time honored tradition and RIGHT in this country. You joined the mouthpieces of the LEFT in maligning them. Again, not what a person who supports the Constitution would do.

    And now this. People had concerns about a socialist/Marxist of questionable character -- a man who surrounds himself with proven racists, tax cheats and self-avowed Communists -- putting himself in front of their children (without the parents present) in the role of telling them what they should be doing. As parents, it's GOOD that they are concerned about what their children are exposed to. but here you are again, joining the LEFT in criticizing and ridiculing these people.

    So tell me Neal. Who has you so SCARED that you are aligning yourself with the leftists and Communists against people who are exercising their Constitutional rights and taking an interest in the welfare of their children?

    It's very sad to see.
  • Boortz.....who has you scared???
    Benign? Hardly.

    Next year is a very crucial election year for Congress. Two years after is another crucial election -- for both Congress and the President.

    A good number of those kids Obama talked to on Tuesday will be first time voters in those elections. For the most part, they will vote with their hearts, not their brains. They won't weigh the issues and vote accordingly. They will vote for the candidate -- and party -- that they LIKE. The ones who make them feel all warm and fuzzy and good. The ones who say things that SOUND good.

    That was the goal of the speech. Just to make the kids LIKE him, so they will vote for him and his cronies.

    Not benign at all.
  • @liberalhater
    LOL!
    So what exactly offended you?
  • Thomas Sowell
    Re: "I was beat out in both categories by Thomas Sowell. There's just no way I could ever measure up to Thomas Sowell."
    No, you will have a hard time beating him, but if you are known by the company you keep, you are in fine shape.
  • thank you
    That's exactly what it is, Neal is more concerned with appearing like a rebel and increasing his audience by saying "shocking" things (for a supposed libertarian) than with actually being correct. I mean, come on, he knows Obama has no business setting up lesson plans for our kids, or asking them to "help him" push his agenda. But Neal likes that "devils advocate" role more than anything else. Give it up already, anyone with a lick of sense sees right through it. Only Neal and Robert Gibbs agree on this issue.
  • @ Batty
    Screw your family, plain and simple. You're at fault for sending them to that government institution to begin with and your kids deserve to be zombified by Obama's Mind Control Device. Maybe next time you'll think twice about sending your little rugrats to a government school.
  • Boortz pandering to left?
    Boortz, you sound as if you're pandering to liberals because they are saying nice things about you on this. Anyone who didn't at least question Obama's motives either agrees with him or is a fool.
  • We studied heritage, politics, and reason instead.
    I have had respect for you, but yesterday I was disappointed by your attack on those of us who stood up for what we believe is in the best interest of our families. I have no idea what the previous materials were going to be. I learned of this event after school closed for Labor Day weekend by way of a pre-recorded voice mail. My options were to let my child go & discuss it later or keep my child home & come up with our own lesson plan.

    I kept my child home because I am a devoted parent that takes an active roll in my child's education. I believe that part of being a parent is being discerning about what is presented to my child while she is yet too young to fully understand the messages. I am doing my best to help her understand the bigger picture, develop her ability to make independent decisions based on careful reasoning, asking deeper questions, read between the lines, look for long term consequences, collecting & analysing the data available, testing everything, etc. Ultimately, my goal is that she will stand up for what is right no matter who the pressure comes from. Sometimes we won't agree but I value her ability to THINK as an individual.

    The speech Barack gave was not suited for all school aged students. It seemed to be for inner-city teens in the last couple yrs of school. Obama would do better to leave this type of motivational speaking to professionals & those who know the children best.

    "Because when you give up on yourself, you give up on your country." "We need every single one of you to develop your talents, skills and intellect so you can help solve our most difficult problems."

    First: What a backwards message to START a school year out on. Why put the weight of the world on the shoulders of children, when the adults are unable to handle these issues?

    Further, I find it interesting how our kids are supposed to stay in school & do thier best 'for the country'.
    The goal of going to school is to better self; parents send thier kids b/c they want to provide the best future possible for thier child(ren). Maybe in Communist or Socialist countries the purpose of education is to brainwash & create automatons for the good of all... but I never believed that was the purpose of education in America.

    IMHO He overstepped his position as President of the USA one too many times. I have learned enough about his character over the last few months that I wish I could take back my vote.
  • Fed in the classroom
    OK, so the content of his speech was benign. Any idiot could have predicted that. I called my kids school to voice my concern. My only concern? Keep the fed out of the classroom. I don't care who the president is. They shouldn't have a clear channel into the classroom, especially at the grade school and middle school level. OK, call me paranoid. I have good reason to be.
  • Simmah da nah
    Check the date of this article: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/wh-withdraws-call-students-help-obama/

    That being what IT is, "How do you feel about the Bush Doctrine?"

    So you know, I am referring to pre-emptive strikes. Which, in a nutshell, is exactly what the grassroots opposition to the LESSON PLAN was.

    Other frogs in the pot sat around picking their noses. Now those millionths of degree warmer frogs are gloating about how beautiful their boogers are. Some are STILL taking them out to look at them!
  • Boortz...
    You are EXACTLY correct on this one!
  • You're better than this
    Neal, seriously, stop trying to pat yourself on the back on this one.

    The truth that you try to ignore is that the objections were indeed to the study guides which glorified Dear Leader.

    Trying to argue a straw man and then congratulating yourself while dismissing the valid points which demonstrate your inaccurate presumtions is beneath you.
  • You are just plain WRONG on this one Neal
    No Neal, people weren't errant in there desire to stop this speech dead in its tracks. Why? Well, quite simple.

    Ya see, when W made a speech to school children about a month after 9/11, the Democrats threw a temper tantrum, even "investigatin" Bush's use of funds to produce his speech.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander Neal and yes, I am that petty and spiteful.

    This is an all out war we are in against socialism and it's most recent sycophant - BO.

    Battle on good soldiers. Take no prisoners.

    THE Revolution is not far.
  • Wrong, Neal...
    Good thing it's a short week! You done stepped in in it this time, Boortz!

    I am pissed because I actually have children in govt schools(and I don't vote (R)). Why are you judging my reaction to this speech AND the assignment after?

    I am not worried about my kids being brainwashed(I tried to teach them to hold the courage of their convictions). My main concern was the conversations afterward between adults and a captive audience. Whether teachers attempted to influence students EITHER way would be wrong. Young minds can be easily swayed by peer pressure or even what a "cool" teacher might proselytize.

    And Neal, shame on you for coming down on parents who are at least ATTEMPTING to hold public officials at ANY level accountable...
  • hey boortz is..........................
    boortz is buying a bridge in new york???? hell I have some ocean front property here in tucson I'll sell him....

    and they DID rewrite the speech for TOUS........
  • School Speech a no-win option
    You are correct that pre-speech opposition was counterproductive. The problem is that Obama has no credibility, so the opposition HAD to pre-emptively oppose a potentially damaging speech. It is bad if it's a bad speech and you don't oppose it, and it is bad if you do oppose it and it is a good speech (either revised or as written.)
    My feeling is there was more downside risk in the path chosen because no matter what the President said to the kids he was bound to be so pompous and boring that they would never pay any attention anyway.
  • Obama Speech
    Neal, a part of the population has an issue with the "lesson plans" and you want question our intelligence? Judging by the majority of your listeners posts maybe it is we that should be questioning your intelligence. You maybe ready to "give up this it was the lesson plan nonsense" but we are not. I look at this as multi faceted operation and the schools and health care are the front lines. We are all supposed to be on the same side working together but when you speak of how pathetic a large amount of your listeners are just weakens our cause. I have been listening to you for years but recently I find myself tuning in Glen Beck more and more. I would only ask for you to not degrade our point of view during such critical times.
  • Eric Hoffer Quote for you!
    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head.
  • Responsibility
    I find that when Obama uses the word "responsibility" in a speech to school kids or in the title of his prposed budget, I just choke up in insane laughter.

    Yeah, I bought into the "I won't let my kid see the Obama speech" line. Instead I showed him Eisenhower's farewell address and pointed out the line where he said:

    "Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we – you and I, and our government – must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without asking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow."

    I think he learned more in that speech than in Obama's feel good nonsense.
  • Timing
    It wasn't the content or the lesson plan. It was TIMING. President Obama mobilized the right with health care, then he says "Let's do something else!" Since the president's main weapon in health care debate is his personal popularity, the school speech was designed to raise his poll numbers. So while not indoctrination, it was very political and calculated.
  • Problems with right ... and left
    Political Strategy Guy is right about the nonsense of the far right, but it is not limited to the far right, it works both ways. You should also be disgusted with the way the far left tries to capitalize on Kennedy's death to promote government sponsored health insurance or tries to appoint an FCC chief whose primary agenda is to wipe out conservative talk radio. Want to talk about partisanism? Two words: Nancy Pelosi. I'm sick of all of it. The last several elections have come down to not who's the better candidate, but to which is the lesser of two evils. What's worse is that the Libertarian party has a fastball hanging up in the stike zone with this whole health care controversy and they're not even swinging. It would be one thing to swing and whiff, but they're not even trying. God, it is so dishearting to see that no one is taking a stand for those of us who value individual freedom and personal responsibility. I don't agree with all Neal says, but we could use someone like him running for office, at least you know where he stands.
  • Obama's speech
    Exactly what I've been saying for the past week! This was so predicatable - a misdirection play. Keep your eye on the ball, folks. If you expend all your energy on this foolishness, you miss the end run on everything else and you do look like an idiot in the end. I let my kid watch the pres. and didn't worry about it. She's only 10 and she knows that the president is pursuing an anti-American, anti-capitalist agenda because I taught her so. If the president wants to tell her to stay in school and work hard, I'm all for that.
  • It is stupid politics to oppose this speech
    Tell me how a moderate swing voters . . . the group that is key to winning elections . . . will take a look at the antics of the far right on the "school speech" issue,combined with the antics of the far right with respect to the "birth certificate" garbage; the same people who took delight in the deaths of Walter Cronkite and Ted Kennedy, and say, "yeah, that's the team I want to play on . . . the team of the crazy insane hyperpartisan nuts . . . where do I sign up to be a republican?"

    Opposing the Obama speech may help far right GOP candidates win their primaries, but heaven help you to win a general election if this is the way you want to play the game . . . unless of course you represent some deep red county of racists in the rural south.
  • Speech changed
    Neal, if you believe that the White House didn't scramble to rewrite the speech after the criticism, and that this was the planned speech all along, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I'll sell you.
  • What really happened
    Another thing, STOP with the "he played you like a fiddle" nonsense. You give these libs too much credit. You seriously think he planned it this way? C'mon!

    This is what happened: Polls are plummeting, everything is going against him, and his handlers decide that they need to send him off in front of mainstream america to do something what they thought would be harmless and that no one thought would turn political. Couple that with OBozo's narcissistic personality disorder of needing to hear the crowd roar and cheer for him (remember he hasn't heard the cheers in quite a while), they figured this speech would be easy and would get his mojo back for the health care fight. Little did they know, that people have come to distrust this man so much that they won't even let him give a little speech to schools anymore!! Just like with the tea parties over the stimlus spending, just like with the health care, they are shocked at the outrage over this community organizer and his mob. They thought that this is still like the campaign season, where OBozo could make the audience swoon anytime he steps up the teleprompter. No more. People are getting tired of it.
  • Neal's wrong again
    Neal, your public schooling shines through on this one! The study material has always been the issue. Just because you only recently heard about it doesn't mean people suddenly changed their tune. You are guilty of what you accuse the democrats of, refusing to listen to the people. Just admit you're wrong and move on.
  • Insane
    I think Neal is getting a little crazy - just think, he has been at work for 5 straight days without taking a vacation.

    Neal, are you that thickheaded? He CHANGED the plans after the people saw it? Why did he change the plans if nothing was wrong, you moron you? Are you saying that those leeson plans weren't creepy? Give it up. As I am not the only one who feels this way lately, your act is getting tired, Beck is across the dial and XM has others that I listen to.
  • Well ya know
    it's really not up to you to decide what it was that ticked us off, we tried telling you, if you don't believe it, that's your problem.

    And Sane Parent, those visitors already DO submit their material for review. Most of them are invited anyway. And I bet if you check your kids material they bring home you would find mention of these visitors.

    Bad week for you Boortz.
  • Public Schools
    Public schools are unfailingly the target of Boortz's cyancism and anger, so why has he not said a word about these institutions this week. Instead, he is attacking conservatives who are sick of Obama's tired rhetoric. Not one of his usual diatribes on useless government school indoctrination and servitude.

    Obama's speech would have been less rousing than those old Schoolhouse Rock videos I had to watch during my service in the public school sector, except it was Obama the Superstar giving the speech, so adulation is required.

    Neal, you're going to eat crow on this sooner or later, so go ahead and drop this subject while I get you a knife and fork.
  • Consider This...
    Neal,

    The great thing about liars is that it is so easy to see that they talk the talk but walk a different walk. Neal, consider that this "harmless speech" exposes Obama once again. He cares nothing for the kids. He tells them to stand up and be independent in his speech but will force them to be completely dependent on government by his actions and policies. You are one of the few voices to call out against his true agenda. Don't let the us down by reporting this speech to be harmless. The lies he told will disarm the kids and the dumbmasses into thinking this guy's not so bad after all. He is an apostasy to everything that made this country great.

    With love from Tough Love.

    P.S. Thomas Sowell sets the crossbar very high. But Neal, you do clear that bar from time to time with pieces like your commencement address. Both of you dish out tough love. Keep it up.
  • GOP
    The GOP is SO predictable. And it doesn't really matter what the President proposes as the GOP will be against it. Because of this experience he will go without their support regarding single payer healthcare. You'll hear this tonight.
  • A question for right wing parents
    Public officials speak to classes all the time . . . city council members, police officers and firefighters, state legislators, and sometimes even mayors or Congresspersons. Classrooms have other guest speakers from time to time: parents come in on career day to talk about their occupation, professors from the local university come in during "science week".

    Are you now advocating that permission must be obtained for a child to hear every single guest speaker, and that all guest speakers must submit their remarks in advance?

    Talk about helicopter parenting. What, oh what, will you do when your kid turns 18 and must be subjected to views contrary to your own, either at college or in the workplace?
  • I'll call you on this one
    Neal. You are being hypocritical. You always seem to have your "panties in a wad" over public schools. In your article OBAMA'S ADDRESS TO STUDENTS from a week ago, you began with your typical diatribe drum-beat to rouse your listeners about kids being in public schools and your "this is public school, so what do you expect" attitude. Great, the kids heard from the President of the United States, and because of the grumbling of the populous, we averted the little lesson plan that went with the speech. Victory for everyone! Woo-hoo! Let's drop it already. You stir the pot and then get irritated when it boils over! Waaaaaaa!
  • This issue is why Boortz is a good talk show host
    I am somewhat left of center, but I like Boortz . . . and the reason I like him is because he does not tow the GOP line on issue after issue . . . it is such a refreshing change from the usual predictable blather that comes out of the mouths of Limbaugh,Hannity, Beck, and the rest of the GOP operatives on TV and radio.

    I suppose a lot of you will now give Boortz the Kathleen Parker treatment, threatening to never listen to him (or read him) again because he had the audacity to buck the GOP's talking points on a high profile issue. My interpretation, then, is that you will only listen or read anything that absolutely conforms to your world view, thereby hardening your view on everything. Heaven forbid if you would ever subject yourself to a contrarian opinion.
  • I see I'm not the only one. . .
    . . .who think the Conservatives and GOP got played. Although it IS possible that the original lesson plan was a pump-fake to lead the Right down the path to looking like fools. . .
  • speech
    Boortz....I love ya, but, you make fun of those getting their panties in a wad about the Obama speech (which was obviously re-written) and yet you have issues with the Rainbow Fish book. Puleez! At least be consistent.
  • Take your ball and go home, Neal
    Neal,

    I thought I would never see it, Neal, but now I have. Your listeners have a completely different view than your own and YOU CAN'T TAKE IT. hahahah SO you're taking your ball and going home on this one.

    I guess I shouldn't be surprised. A friend told me that on rare occasions when your audience sees things differently, you refuse to take their calls and then call them names. Neal, that's rather childish of you. Come on, grow up!

    The average person can't simply "turn off" the world around them they way you do on your radio station. We deal with people. Obviously, your career in radio has damaged your ability to interact with those of differing views. This is a sad commentary on your life, Neal.
  • It wasn't even the lesson plan...
    Neal's right. Obama set up his critics to look like overreacting blowhards. It should have been obvious that the content of Big O's speech to the schoolchildren would be uncontroversial. No big deal.

    But that was the point. To desensitize us to the idea of the President addressing our children directly without the usual parental filter. Presidents before have addressed children, but usually as an aside during a prime-time event targeting the whole of the viewing public, not just the Sesame Street set. But we are fools to believe this will be a one-time event.

    The purpose of this event was never to indoctrinate the nation's children directly. That would be too transparent for Obama's comfort. It was about leveraging peer pressure among young people.

    There are anecdotes of some kids being called "racists" by their classmates in the Charlotte schools because their parents excused them from viewing the address. That's more powerful than any Oval-Office-Approved lesson plan.
  • "The Lesson Plan"
    I teach chemistry in a government school. I cannot show a DVD about the periodic table of the elements without written permission from my principal. I must show the link to the state science standards in my video request form. That is how my school district handled the Obama speech. I'll agree that it is not wise to holler before you're hurt, but I can understand why parents would be leery of the President-any President-inserting himself into the classroom. If I had a kid in school I would want to see at least an outline of the speech before I let my kid see it.
  • School Lesson Plan
    Neal, you can sit there and repeat yourself until you're blue in the face, but everyone I have talked with didn't want Obama's speaking to our kids because of the associated lesson plan. Yes, they were concerned about the speech too, but it was always the lesson plan that accompanied the speech that everyone was concerned with.

    So do everyone a favor; move on to a different topic. You don't have kids in school but your audience does. Don't pretend to tell us why we were against this speech.
  • You are right
    It's not often that I agree with you, but I am not surprised we agree on the speech issue. All of those who made an uproar about this really harmless speech look crazy and that is what happened during the election. People were focusing on the wrong things. Health care is where attention needs to be focused and not on just what should NOT be done, but with reasonable solutions. I hear a lot of what we don't need or want but not enough of what should be done. Doing nothing is not an option. Insurance premiums are increasing and quality of care is going down and attacking the President on silly issues is helping nothing.
  • School Speech
    I did not keep my kids at home and I did not mind if they saw the speech, they didn't, the school didn't show it. I simply do not trust our Dear Leader and his Marxist agenda and I would not put it past him to attempt to indoctrinate kids in Marxism.
  • How about you give it up.
    The reason why people are so upset is because they DO NOT TRUST him. Ok so this time he stuck to the script. But after so much controversy of course he did. Would he have been different if not for the controversy? Who knows, Maybe not.

    The point is he had a captive audience and the people of this country do not TRUST him in that situation. If he had given the speech on TV during primetime asking parents to tune in with their children. Then it would have been under the control of the parents if they wanted to participate.
    Granted there were some school systems that did decide not to participate.It would have been better to be soley in the parents hands.

    Where I have an issue is with the people that think it was OK with Bush. Just the same, No president should do it!

    I have no ax to grind. As I do have a 2 year old child. I will never put her in a gov school!
  • Speach, lesson plan, whatever
    Sometimes a libertarian will glom onto some innocuous issue and pitbull it to prove they are libertarian - whatever that is. Me thinks you protest too much on this one. Lots of regular folks have awoken to a President and a Congress that's beginning to creep them out. I think you just missed this one from the beginning, failing to get your arms around all the nuances that grassroots America picked up from the beginning. Even President Obama had to backpeddle as his administration missed another one. You should just raise the white flag and retreat on this one. The more you try to dig out of your hole the sillier you look.
  • The assignment
    The assignment was pretty bad. The kids had to write a paper on how they can help the president. I'm sorry but imagine what the outcry would have been if Bushitler had done such a thing.
  • The President's sppech to kids
    Hey, Neal. You were right, we were wrong. But, I'm not embarassed at all. Given his track record, we had every reason to be concerned about what he might say to the kids. I have a liberal friend who called me yesterday, asking how stupid I felt now. I told him that I don't feel stupid at all because this is one of those issues where I really hoped that I WAS wrong. So, chill out. You sound like a Democrat after Obama won the election.
  • Wrong again, Neal
    Matter of fact, when George H.W. Bush gave a speech to school kids in 1991, the liberals crapped their pants and proceeded to investigate and hold hearings. (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/When-Bush-spoke-to-students-Democrats-investigated-held-hearings-57694347.html)

    Again: We’re inundated enough with the socialist rhetoric being pushed from Obama’s MSM conglomerate.

    Themes covered in the speech; “responsibilty, getting your homework done, staying in school, and working hard”, are best left to the parents, and not a piss-poor example of a “president”.
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