The mainstream media has learned to lie with headlines. Here are just two examples from the weekend.

"Toyota Refuses To Build Electric Car!" Yet the article immediately states Toyota will have an electric car on the market in 2012.

"CIA Threatened Detainee's Family!" This one is as grey as it gets. No member of the detainee's family received a threat. Only the detainee was threatened. The CIA told the detainee that his family would be harmed. Actually HARMING his family would have been heinous. But all they did was lie to him about it. So now we can't even tell a suspected terrorist a lie in an effort to get information? Gee whiz, Wally!

The media counts on the fact that a lot of people just skim the headlines and don't actually read the stories. The headlines lie. The media lies.

How do you even claim to be a libertarian if you think that this is worse than what Bush and Cheney's people were doing? Not respecting the Geneva convention or US laws, let alone any sense of morality ? I thought that these people claimed to be Christians, and yet they tortured someone 186 times in order to provoke false confessions and start a war. Sorry Neal, you're less credible than Olbermann.

"And yes, I probably would feel different if torture meant the difference between saving someone I love or not saving them."

anyone we save is most likely loved by someone.

Yeah, 'cause we all know how awful it would be to have Metallica played constantly while not being allowed to sleep, then asked questions. I'm sorry, I really don't get the liberal concept of what torture is and the whole 'moral equivalency' game. We aren't talking about Boyscouts who got lost on their way to Jamboree. To me, having to listen to Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, and Henry Waxman constitutes torture. The ACLU isn't protecting me from them.

It would be closer to having the Gestapo...the SS would be more in line with SEIU and other Obama unions; just without the snazzy uniforms.

Dealing with the WH morons would certainly qualify as torture!

"Torture" is sort of vague. "Maiming" carries the same definition, but it's more precise. Basically if you cause permanent damage, you have successfully tortured/maimed a person.

"Discomfort" is a word that is now being associated with torture, which is incorrect. I am a huge advocate of "discomfort", which includes beatings, temperature change, loud music, water-boarding, and gay porno (unless of course the detainee is queer, which probably accounts for a large number of Islamaniacs).

In the grand scheme of things, none of this makes a shiite's difference. Just like the uninsured recipients of health care reform, Obama doesn't really give a flying shiite about the welfare of Guantanamo detainees. Alterior motives rule this administration. If you don't believe that, you are one of the dumb-masses.

Hitler also created his own special Interrogation Team. It was called the SS.

T-shirt...........yeah you be rite butt our kids is still kids.....no matter how old we let them get.......

Flintcraft....it's....we's skrewed!!!!!

our leaders ARE aliens.....let's deport their stinkin' asses to Barnyard Frankfooter's home planet..............
.............wait for it...............
...............UR-ANUS!!!!!

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"there are Martians occupying the basement of the Capitol Building in Atlanta".
By JB

JB.........who told you 'bout them lil' critters in the basement???????????

I don't kno' how Ivan gets his info but........sometimes he makes sense. we all have a suspicious nature when it comes to the gubmint......even when it don't make any sense at all......wait I'm talkin' 'bout the gubmint...when did it ever make sense???????????

the only thing they(gubmint) do well is pay our young warriors on time....and the reason for that is..... "alla dem guns".........other wise who needs 'em...

Don't be scared Klubber Lang. I will protect you. I won't let those Christians get you. Remember when we went to the paul mcCartney show, and we held each other tight and whispered nothings into each others empty heads. You told me to call you Flubber Wang. I said tee hee. Next time you get scared think of me.

Wonder how this high value team would operate if the Obama children were kidnapped and they had one suspect who in all probability knew where the girls were?

I have a child serving in the military and I also served. My objection to the use of torture is based on the fact that when the US allows our interrogators to torture prisoners of war (which is really what these people are), then we in effect OK the use of those techniques by our enemies. There are thousands of arguments for the use of torture and there are thousands of arguments against the use of torture. But to me, the one reason we should not use it is - WE ARE AMERICANS. We hold ourselves to be just a bit better than our enemies. Along with that thought comes responsibility - responsibility to act better than our enemy.
While torture MAY yield results, one has to wonder if, in the end, those results are actually worth the cost. And yes, I probably would feel different if torture meant the difference between saving someone I love or not saving them. But, hey, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

When will the country wake up?! This extreme liberal admin is slowly taking away control of everything and housing it under the WH with no resistance what so ever. First the absorption of the census and now this. It is possible to eat an elephant; one small bite at a time until eventually everything is gone except the bones and the memory of how magnificent it once was. The people of Germany never caught on to what Hitler was up to either until it was too late. I'm not making a direct comparison of Obama to Hitler (so don't try to construe it that way) - just providing an analogy of how an entire country can be fooled into believing all this change is for the common good. He won't stop until he has all the power of the government under one White House roof. I'm still waiting for him to attempt to overturn the presidential term limits, (just like his buddy Zalaya)and all the Dems will just roll over for their presidential belly rubbing.

Is this the tail wagging the dog in an attempt to distract us from the healthcare debacle?

Since this inept clown wants to have his hands on EVERYTHING,I suggest he can help control inefficient personal body cleaning.He can wipe my butt.
Sorry for the puerile comment,but I am getting weary of this seizure of every aspect of our lives by people who cannot take care of their own personal cleansing with both hands.

I think the widows of 911 might differ about whether there is terrorism. Taking your beliefs in a violent fashion to another land is indeed terrorism. Do we contribute to that? I am still out on that.

But you are right about Hamilton!

This may actually be more nefarious than we see at first blush.
First, why does the WH need a unit to oversee or conduct interrogations under the provisions of the Justice Dept. If I understand correctly, that is the purview of the FBI.
Second, where will the parameters of who is interrogated going to be codified? Does this mean that any persone showing up on a No Fly List, or the Department of Homeland Security classified report on Rightwing Extremism sent to law enforcement nationwide?

Many qustions here to include the legality and necessity. Once an element of this sort is set up and ingrained into the bureaucracy, how hard is it to extend control or oversight outside the WH?

This sets a bad precedent.

I find being constrained to be so blunt dis-tasteful but infernal torture is a contrived solution in need of an invented problem. There are no terrorists! Alleged terrorism is just the latest bugaboo invented by centralists, unitarists, bureaucratists, hamiltonians, elitists, zionists, militarists, imperialists, globalists, internationalists, anglofils, neo-conservatives & like pests to dis-credit American isolationism & isolationists yet again, a vile plot against the American republic that has validity, integrity, quality & economic stability only if independent of intangling foreign influences! Americans have borne this crap since 1898 when the Spanish war was justified on an odious pretext & we are yet on the G-- d----- hook for world salvation! Tell me, Boortz, when will it be acceptable to hoe our own row in this FN world? when will imperial America have slain the last threat who will lack survivors, emulators or followers avid to avenge him? When will it ever be time to tell the G-- d----- Bank of England to F itself so we can re-gain our INDEPENDENT republic & quit worrying about nonsense such as the central powers, the axis, FOREIGN communism that never would have been d--k without American lend lease aid during the infernal FDR war, the notorious CIA front organization known as al Qaeda & related BS? Back in 1991 when the soviet union inmploded I said, Great, now reactionary Americans such as myself can get away with turning our bile, ire, wrath, invidiousness, vindictiveness, antagonism & other authoritarian impulses inward so we may purge & purify America at long FN last! but of course it was an aborted hope: it would have redounded to the benefit & advantage of good people such as myself. "Silly patriot, success is for traitors!"

*F* the G-- d----- Obama adminstration's collusion in continuance of this evil charade! along with any one else who does not want to see through it because he is O so morally & intellectually BEYOND crass, mean, spiteful, narrow & *shallow* isolationism!

Where is John Taylor of Caroline county, Virginia when I NEED him?

I agree with Stan's #1 fan.When this HIG bombs out asking the terrorists, things like "what is your favorite color" It can be renamed

"Honky Interrogating Group"

and go after the real terrorists.

I really have a two-part comment about this.

First, this is both treasonous and destructive to the intelligence community and the military community. Regardless how the left feels this action will do more to destroy our ability to defend ourselves than all the previous actions of the current administration. This should be stopped immediately.

Now for the other point. TORTURE WORKS. Anyone saying different is clueless. Good Cop, Bad Cop is a form of torture. Intimidation of any type is torture. Implying the use of force, implying injuries/death to family or significant others is torture. As long as you have a way to cross-check the data, it works. Some personalities require pain to be applied, some only require the threat. You have to be willing to go the mat with radical Muslims to get the data you need. Joe Hick that robbed the bank needs minimal coercion to admit to his crime.

Get over this torture problem. And get this Administration out of office as soon as humanly possible.

Obama has just told all Al-Qaida types out there what to expect in an interrogation. Thus these thugs know the limits of what the US is going to do. How can I say this? It's simple.

The Army Interrogation Field Manual is not classified, thus it is open source material. Anyone can download it to their system from the internet.

If Obama doesn't want to lose this war, he sure is trying to. I guess that this is more of the "Change we can believe in."

I hope they also go back to interrogating Christians also. I am just as scared of the klan and neo nazis as I am muslim extremists