Unfortunately, it also ignores a few inconvenient facts:
- FDR actually prolonged the Depression by the excessive Government spending. It was apparent by the end of Hoover's administration that the economy was beginning to recover. That has been ignored and lost in history.

-If supply side economics failed, why did we have almost 30 years straight of unprecedented economic growth?

-The American people have been lied to for those 74 years, and now, they are standing up in unprecedented ways and numbers to reclaim their freedom.

EXACTLY what I and many others here have been saying! Thanks for the help snarky.

in a barroom brawl the first rule is...........NO FRIGGIN' RULES......one of my incesters wrote that rule and he waz gubmint edjukated....13 toed and they say he had a tail....

soooo when the nancy goes out she can do what she wants.....ever see that big box in her office.....it's got the house of reprehencibles testicals in it....if they perform well they get to see them once or twice a year.....

politicians don't need no stinkin' rules...........we do!!! don't believe me?? well just ask your elected offal....the one you keep sending back.....

"FDR actually prolonged the Depression by the excessive Government spending. It was apparent by the end of Hoover's administration that the economy was beginning to recover. That has been ignored and lost in history." - The alternative view is he actually didnt spend enough. WWII spending is what changed that.

Supply side economics - pretty sure the failure there was in how it increased debt and deficits. Check this out:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edchtf9MS7g&feature=related GHWB in the first couple minutes arguing against regan's tax cuts and what they'd do....he was right.

"standing up in unprecedented ways and numbers" - I read that and think about all the mischaracterization by people like sarah palin, driving good people to yell about things that are just untrue. I see where newt was in favor of end of life counseling...but now is opposed to it. Isakson wanted to make it mandatory and no one on the right yelled... I dont get it.

And yes, for 75 years the right has said that all these reforms (medicare, SS) would create a socialistic state but, in the end, none of the dire predictions made came true and these programs went on to do well for a long time.

Do they have problems now - yes. And I'm all for a reasonable debate on what we do to fix them. there are lots of things we NEED to do...and some of that HAS TO BE cuts in how this is spent.


But all I see and here is "death panels".

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_08/019484.php#more

A short opinion on this since we are on Neal's site.

I found one thing frighteningly true. We have been on a slow role progressive agenda for 74 years.

Unfortunately, it also ignores a few inconvenient facts:
- FDR actually prolonged the Depression by the excessive Government spending. It was apparent by the end of Hoover's administration that the economy was beginning to recover. That has been ignored and lost in history.

-If supply side economics failed, why did we have almost 30 years straight of unprecedented economic growth?

-The American people have been lied to for those 74 years, and now, they are standing up in unprecedented ways and numbers to reclaim their freedom.

While we were mourning at the grave of Conservatism, like a Phoenix from the ashes, a new Conservative revolution begins.

Sorry, snark, I do have to work from time to time( ain't won no lottery, probably won't...). I think Nancy Pelosi is as fake as the botox induced perma-smile frozen on her face. She selectively applied the principal of shouting down opponents being un-American. Fine where her constituents are concerned, not so much for anti HR3200 'evil mongerers'. I can't support her point of view when she doesn't believe it herself. I didn't feel that anti war protesters were out of line as long as they stuck to facts and acting somewhat rationally. You believe what you believe, why should I get offended? I can't change your mind, don't want to. But Nancy Pelosi doesn't give a rat's rear end about civilized debate or calm, reasonable discussion with opponents. To quote her: "We won,you lost." I don't think anyone should be silenced, and shouting at people only works in sports, war, and Jerry Springer. I'd like to see folks calm down and take a deep breath, but I can't blame them for not wanting to. Someone is trying to shoplift their freedom to choose. Her name is Nancy. Okay, mon, I got to work, the boss says. Peace...out

I'll give Pelosi the benefit of the doubt. She is already in enough hot water with her "Swastika" comment. I am not going to try to make a connection where one does not exist. I prefer to argue with logic, not with "well, what she really meant is...". I am guilty of saying things in my life that were misunderstood. I really dilike Pelosi, but I would rather point out where she really does put her foot in her mouth rather than trying to make some kind of guess as to what she meant. Doing so makes us look like Hyperpartisan fools.

ok, that was just lame.... you can do better

If she said they were un-American or if their actions were un-American, you know damn well what she meant! She was demeaning the protesters no matter which way you want to look at it. And hey, you twist our words all the time.

She's insulting and her doing so is un-American!

Never heard of Michelle Malkin? How very curious. Many words come to mind when I read your comments but Republican is not one of them..

Caught on tape and still they lie!

And little fascists still try and come to their rescue. Pathetic. 2010 is in the bag. Indeed, healthcare was Obozo's Waterloo.

uh, so I can't tell...you disagree with Pelosi saying people with different views shouldn't be drown out? You think it's unamerican to allow dissent?

it's really a simple question.

Here is Pelosi's USA Today piece:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2009/08/unamerican-attacks-cant-derail-health-care-debate-.html

Challenge: Please find where she says the protestors are "un-American".

In paragraph 7, she writes, "These disruptions are occurring because opponents are afraid not just of differing views — but of the facts themselves. Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. Drowning out the facts is how we failed at this task for decades".

This is the only place in the article where the word "un-American" occurs.

Yet, Boortz and Faux News and the other usual suspects twist her words. It is blatant dishonesty and misrepresentation of the facts to say that Nancy Pelosi called the protestors un-American or to assert that she said that protest is un-American . . . just as it is a blatant misrepresentation to say that Obama will establish "death panels."

Can we have more articles by this Malkin girl? Nothing more excites a republican like me than articles written by people nobody knows. I like to read these in commercial breaks while watching Brit Hume. Man that guy is as exciting as a weekend with Batman

"Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American. "

Disagree?