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PELOSI AND HOYER IN USA TODAY

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@ August 10, 2009 8:49 AM Permalink | Comments (50) | TrackBacks (0)

Princess Nancy Pelosi and one of her Knights, Sir Steny Hoyer, have written an opinion piece for today's USA Today. Guess what? Thanks to Pelosi and Hoyer we now know that the protestors that are showing up at these townhall meetings are "un-American." Their angle is that these people are showing up at the meetings not to express their concerns, but to "drown out" opposing views. They're not concerned with crushing debt and horrifying budget deficits. They're not concerned with the inaccessibility or possible rationing of healthcare. They just don't like Barack Obama or his health care plan, so this makes them "un-American." I guess Democrats feel that to be an American you have to timidly accept any controls your government wishes to inflict on you. To protest government is, to Pelosi et al, is to be "un-American." This pretty much goes along with what I've been saying about Democrats for quite a while. These people think that America's greatness comes from government; certainly not from the dynamic of free people working together under the rule of law in an economy based on liberty. So ... to protest government is to protest America. This makes you "un-American." Oh yeah ... makes perfect sense to me.

I love some of the comments that appeared in USA Today after the Pelosi/Hoyer column:

  • "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American" As any conservative who has ever tried to give a speech on an American university campus could attest.
  • The obvious thing for Pelosi to do is to create a committee to investigate the protestors--call it the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
  • Oh contrare Oh mighty Democratic leaders. It's un-American not to allow a proper debate. It's also irresponsible and a dereliction of your duties to attempt to ram through (and not read) these bills.
  • This is precious. Dissent isn't the highest form of patriotism after all. It's unamerican!

This is what is bothers Democrats so ... the people are standing up to them. This shouldn't happen in their version of a democrat society.

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  • No government can "spend itself rich" and stay solvent
    The issue here is NOT about health care. It is, as always, about money. I recently read a biography of Andrew Jackson, our fifth greatest president. He was a cantankerous firebreather that was shot and almost killed in a couple of duels. He was also a huge believer in financial solvency for our government. This program doesn't work. (Look to Massachussetts to see why.) It would destroy a vital part of our economic system. (Our health insurance companies don't just KEEP the money, they are a major source of capital for our financial markets.) It would be too expensive, have too few doctors participating, (with fewer entering health care in the future), and would result in rationing life and death for seniors.
    Obama has shown that he believes in "Cronyism" and favoritism to his supporters. How much of a stretch to imagine that health care would be rationed according to your party affiliation?
    When the subject is a matter of life or death, literally, is it any wonder that those who are about to die do NOT salute you?
    By Reed @ 08/11/09 07:28:07 AMreport abuse
  • Interesting
    You can use the word terrorist to describe one who opposes the Dems and their bills, but you cannot use terrorist for someone that wants to physically destroy you and your country.
    By N4646W @ 08/10/09 11:56:28 PMreport abuse
  • I was worried
    But Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer have written an opinion that proves, without a doubt, that the North American Dumbass is no longer on the Endangered Species list! In fact the species seems to thrive in and around Washington D.C.
    By Dave in Norfolk @ 08/10/09 11:44:24 PMreport abuse
  • Un-American
    I guess if the people expressing their views on this health bill are Un-American... then the soldiers that defended us against the British in the American Revolution were Un-American?
    By Ken @ 08/10/09 11:17:20 PMreport abuse
  • CNN
    Just a quick note, went to cnn.com to see what they had to say, and there was nothing. Not a single article about this column.
    By nobody @ 08/10/09 10:20:09 PMreport abuse
  • Pelosi
    Wasn't it Nancy Pelosi (her earth name) who told illegal aliens that they're the true patriots?
    By Knitwit @ 08/10/09 09:56:47 PMreport abuse
  • the true face of the Dems
    the Dems are taking off their mask and showing us that they are still the party of slavery.
    This time around they want everyone to be a slave.
    By kevinS @ 08/10/09 09:29:33 PMreport abuse
  • I agree with Hillary for once.
    “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate, and you disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic, and we should stand up and say we are Americans, and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration!”

    Hillary Rodham Clinton, 4-28-03
    By Crosscut @ 08/10/09 06:03:03 PMreport abuse
  • un-Americanism
    My out-rage over the hijacking by collectivists & progressives of the great populist reactionary epithet "un-American" is yet another reason for me to self justify my violent radicalization & firmly embrace the condign role of authoritarian incipient domestic terrorist uni-laterally assigned me by der vaterland security ministry. This is better, more fun & longer lasting than yielding to road rage!
    By Jack in Dayton, Ohio @ 08/10/09 05:51:35 PMreport abuse
  • Un-American
    Typical government ignoring the people they are suppose to be representing and serving. Our founding fathers preserved the rights of the people to protect them from an oppressive government. If Nancy and her co-socalists don't want to listen to words, maybe they would prefer the very patriotic sound of a second american revolution.

    I would much rather prefer the diplomatic route, but they need to put down the crack-pipe if they think patriotic americans will let themselves be steam-rolled. Primers anyone?
    By Michael Miller @ 08/10/09 05:47:56 PMreport abuse
  • re:butt nekid..
    common butt, you got to say it right,with inflection and FEELING..."SCUM-SUCKIN'MAGGOTS!!! It needs to project the imagery,just close your eyes and visualize it(uurp! excuse me I have to go throwup now!)
    By damifino @ 08/10/09 04:01:38 PMreport abuse
  • My God, I can't believe I am defending Nancy!
    I have to agree: "Drowning out opposing views is simply un-American." We should all be able to speak out and not have our words suppressed.

    Sadly the rest of her piece is total huey and she should look at the tactics of her supporters before getting all righteous.
    By Scooter @ 08/10/09 03:18:13 PMreport abuse
  • HUH????
    Is it just me or does this paragraph contradict itself?

    "The first fact is that health insurance reform will mean more patient choice. It will allow every American who likes his or her current plan to keep it. And it will free doctors and patients to make the health decisions that make the most sense, not the most profits for insurance companies."

    If I keep my current plan, won't my health decisions be made the same way they are now?

    If I keep my current plan won't the profits for the insurance companies be about the same?
    By Tadpole @ 08/10/09 02:42:01 PMreport abuse
  • Notice how quick the dp leadership is to call people un-American.
    That's what usually happens when people so touchy about those sorts of things (guilty conscience) get their turn. I'll laugh in her face on that one.

    Any health care plan that doesn't allow me to hire a doctor, staff, and facilities for any operation or treatment I can pay for is un-American.

    Any health care 'option' I can be forced into is un-American.

    Telling me or my insurance company what can or can't be in the coverage I negotiate, or where I buy it, is un-American.

    Schlepping off federal cost overruns from medicare/medicaid onto providers and thus their paying customers, insurance companies and individuals, is un-American.

    Forbidding me or a group from purchasing, or a carrier from providing a policy all parties are agreable to is un-American.

    Sure nancy, a discussion on what is and isn't American (and what should be, we can always improve) would be a great place to start in considering any legislation.
    By CowboyUp @ 08/10/09 01:56:28 PMreport abuse
  • Goose and Gander
    I guess yelling, screaming and protesting, and using swastikas on signs against Bush was OK. I love the homemade signs of the organized mobs and the prepared signs of the SEIU/ACORN/AFL-CIO/etc. supporters.
    By Elle @ 08/10/09 01:28:36 PMreport abuse
  • my favorite woidz...............................
    scumsuckinpoliticians
    scumsuckinosamabama
    scumsuckinstinkinmuslims
    scumsuckingubmint
    By butt neckid @ 08/10/09 01:21:50 PMreport abuse
  • I am currently reading the bill
    I am up to pg 60. I'm tired of people saying "this is in the bill, that is in the bill". So I am attempting to read it for myself. I'm guessing that this too, makes me "Un-American". I have already come across a number of points that I find disturbing.

    I started posting my interpretation on a thread in a forum I hang out in. So I guess I'm going to be on the "Tattletale" list. Used to be, we had freedom of speech. I'm wondering what my punishment will be. But it's too late to back down now.

    Obama has now pitted American against American. This will not end well. Especially seeing as how most of the conservatives are fairly well armed.

    Why is it so hard for him just to admit defeat and come up with another plan? Instead, it's his way or it's his way. I have the feeling that he will somehow figure out a way to make it law, with or without Congress. This arrogant pile of steaming motes has to go. Before we end up in Civil War II.
    By I. Moyer @ 08/10/09 01:15:43 PMreport abuse
  • I'm against it!
    The story is told in my family of a great, great, great, whatever, grandfather who immigrated to America from Scotland in the early 1800's. When arriving in America he asked if America had a government and was told it did. He responded, "Then I'm against it!".
    This is the attitude that made America great. Our Founding Fathers instinctively distrusted any form of government. The more government wants to involve itself in our lives the more a true patriotic American should be "against it". I even think the Pledge of Allegiance is unpatriotic.
    This nation is it's people, not it's damn government.
    By Carlos @ 08/10/09 01:00:52 PMreport abuse
  • Woodsey nailed this one!
    Weren't the Democrats the ones yeeling about our "patriotic duty" to dissent when they were opposed to the War on Terror? Why shouldn't we dissent about the War on Freedom?

    BTW, you want free health care? Join the Army. Free (rationed) health care sucks so bad I willingly pay my annual deductable and 20% out of pocket co-pay to send my kids to see a civilian doctor. Otherwise, you wait weeks to see a doctor, even for acute illnesses. I don't bother with the doctor unless I'm too sick to go to work; by the time there's an open appointment, I'm usually better on my own. It's one way to curb health-care costs, I suppose, but I'm glad I have the option to pay out of pocket for my children's sake. Let the government into the insurance business, and that option will dry up.... :(
    By American Solider @ 08/10/09 12:59:59 PMreport abuse
  • Nancy's right
    These meetings are a complete sham, chaired by crooks and liars intent on dismantling our constitution. Beyond that, they haven't read, and have no intention of reading, the legislation. Why would any sane person ask these morons legitimate questions? So, yes, Nancy Pelosi is correct that we don't give a damn about hearing her idiotic viewpoint. If it weren't for her big cans, she'd be greeting you when you enter Walmart.
    By stepcousin @ 08/10/09 12:57:15 PMreport abuse
  • This is fishy
    Everyone ought to flood the white house web site with links to the Pelosi article for being fishy.
    By Rob @ 08/10/09 12:41:31 PMreport abuse
  • Oh my....
    I know this is katty, but did y'all see that photo of Nancy on Drudge? Whew, the point of no return. That's why she's mad; when she tries to fix that paper-bag face (again x 4?), she'll be counseled on "END OF LIFE" options.
    By Kitty @ 08/10/09 12:27:36 PMreport abuse
  • Opposing View?
    So...the folks showing up to ask question are trying to drown out an opposing view???. Aren't the Dem's in power? Isn't this Health Care/Insurance Power Grab thingie...their plan/idea/view? Seems the questions are being asked to EXPRESS and opposing view!!!!
    By Kent Barnes @ 08/10/09 11:54:00 AMreport abuse
  • Dissent and violence
    Jenny,

    I agree with you on the shouting at the politicians, but the violence was non-existant at these town halls and protests until the democrats called out the SEIU.
    By Bryan @ 08/10/09 11:46:50 AMreport abuse
  • Jenny
    Excuse my ma'am but is it OK when the shoe is on the other foot? I can direct you to at least a dozen examples of liberal protests at conservative functions and believe you me, he liberals are far worse. For example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNXmy0e5fc These idiots are on stage destroying the set where the Minutemen were speaking. And let's not forget that it's union thugs who beat up that man in St. Louis last week. The people inside aren't being disruptive, they are asking legitimate questions and are getting spoken too like they're children. This is when the shouting starts. But this is typical of liberal tactics. When they can no longer defend the ridiculous, they turn the spotlight to the wrong people. They know they're trying to push a boondoggle and now they know that the public isn't as stupid as they thought they were so they resort to name calling and idiocy like this.
    By Rockhound @ 08/10/09 11:42:58 AMreport abuse
  • Nancy & Hoyer
    Breath-taking arrogance! You mean if I stand up and question Her Majesty and her lackeys, I am unpatriotic? Does anyone want to explain that to Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin and company?

    These folks are so out of touch, they don't even have any idea how totally stupid they sound. We are going to turn over to the Federal Government at least 1/10th of our functioning economy in a time of economic crisis? AND we are turning over to the Feds and all their bureaucratic minion’s life and death decisions on health care? Oh, and according to these folks (note: THEY will not participate in the program) this monstrosity can be paid for by just taxing the HELL out of the rich? RIGHT...These are the same folks that can't deliver the mail on time.

    Why can't we grant everyone a tax credit? You file your taxes and a receipt of purchase of insurance. You and your family get a credit based upon family size, your income and your age. You get to make the decisions and the free market will adjust for pricing - more competitive, less cost. Yes, there will have to be provisions for the poor.

    Believe me, the last thing we all want is some moron in DC telling you what antibiotic you can and can’t have. And somebody needs to call California – their nuts are loose again.
    By Forsyth Mom @ 08/10/09 11:23:48 AMreport abuse
  • Talkin trash
    I'm still foaming over her comment months ago that those who want to stop illegal aliens from entering this country are un-American......
    By Robin @ 08/10/09 11:06:14 AMreport abuse
  • Where was this opposition????
    For you partisans out there:

    Where was this opposition when Code Pink and that stinky church group from Kansas were interrupting military funerals during the Bush administration? This is hyper-partisan politics at its best from the queen beotch herself. If you idiots in her district have one iota of decency, you will send her packing next year!
    By Matt @ 08/10/09 10:47:37 AMreport abuse
  • Pelosi
    This is the same woman that said ICE raids to round up illegal immigrants was "unamerican".
    By les @ 08/10/09 10:46:52 AMreport abuse
  • Congressional Imperial air force
    Is there going to be any disscussion of the new air fleet our congress is buying so Nancy and company don't have to sit with the rabble and(ugh!)common serfs while traveling.
    By damifino @ 08/10/09 10:35:17 AMreport abuse
  • No Wonder
    She doesn't want to have a real debate because there is no way to rationally defend this bill, and she couldn't do it even if there was because 1) she lacks the mental equipment and 2) she hasn't read it and understood it.
    By Ephram @ 08/10/09 10:33:45 AMreport abuse
  • Pelosi
    I am sick to death of our idiot Queen and her gibberish.
    By Robert G Sorbet @ 08/10/09 10:25:33 AMreport abuse
  • A couple from JFK
    A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. - John F. Kennedy

    Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - John F. Kennedy
    By RC @ 08/10/09 10:20:31 AMreport abuse
  • This is so stupid
    This is as lame as all of the idiot Republicans running around saying "aid and comfort to the enemy" during every anti-war debate.

    This country is devoid of leadership. If you disagree w/ the leaders, they just take their ball and go home. Bunch of friggin' 3rd graders running this country.
    By Matt @ 08/10/09 10:16:39 AMreport abuse
  • Comrade Hillary's quote
    I wonder if Hillary regrets making that comment today. She clearly made that with a pre-YouTube state of mind, meaning that she can no longer count on the leftwing media to control and hide footage that does not comply with the socialist agenda. That will live on! Speaking of which, I need to find it. Anyone got a link?
    By Steve @ 08/10/09 09:59:41 AMreport abuse
  • town halls
    the dems. are doing the same thing they did years ago wend they road around with white sheet on and calling themselfs K K K
    By Don @ 08/10/09 09:59:12 AMreport abuse
  • How the tables have turned.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration."

    - Hillary Clinton, 2003
    By Woodsey Owl @ 08/10/09 09:51:35 AMreport abuse
  • Proud to be UNPATRIOTIC!
    I have criticized every elected official that I ever voted for or didn't vote for if they proceeded in favor of a program or policy contrary to my beliefs. I was appalled by the GOP's "unpatriotic" characterizations of people who opposed the Iraqui war. I am no less appalled by the DEMs.
    By Anita @ 08/10/09 09:51:12 AMreport abuse
  • Those who like this idea
    Have you actually read even a part of this bill? Is it not grossly irresponsible for any member of congress to vote on any legislation that they have not actually read? People need time to read this. Not just politicians, but everyone who cares about it. And if the congress think it's so great, let them use it for their health care.
    By Jim Smith @ 08/10/09 09:49:05 AMreport abuse
  • Nancy Pelosi
    I agree with Stan. Sometimes we wonder if America should be left out to hang and that it doesn't deserve amazing leaders like Nancy Pelosi. She's from San Francisco, people, a place where people sip lattes and discuss the finer aspects of life like art and culture. Then she comes out to redneck America and people are drinking beer and saying "Der, get your hands off my health insurance!" A brilliant mind once said that genius is never appreciated in its own time. Pelosi is just too progressive for the uninformed rightwing boobs that run this country. Sometimes I wish San Francisco would declare its independence from the USA and become that shining city on the hill that all would want to be.
    By Stan's #1 Fan @ 08/10/09 09:41:12 AMreport abuse
  • 2011
    I hope the republican who takes that gavel in 2011 won’t say “it’s for the children” but something more along the lines of “I take this gavel for the individual spirit, whom are the true defenders of freedom, and for them, I’ll ensure that congress follows the United States constitution, especially the 10th amendment, it’s time to end the rule of the federal government and return these powers to the states, let’s make government local again, as it was intended by the founding fathers.” Okay, I won’t hold my breath
    By Terry G @ 08/10/09 09:40:17 AMreport abuse
  • re:joyce
    I'm disapointed in you joyce.."goons" is too kind and an insult to goons everywhere.I think "arrogant,pompus,scum sucking maggots who need to be stepped on and forced out of office by any means nessary" is a better discription although a little long....
    By damifino @ 08/10/09 09:35:45 AMreport abuse
  • It's about CIVILIZED debate
    Dissent is great . . tolerance of it is a treasured hallmark of western democracies. But shouting and screaming like lunatics and getting into fist fights are not hallmarks of civilized debate.

    So, go to your town meetings and ask your questions and make your points, but show some respect for the process by listening to what your elected representative has to say and to the questions and answers of others in the audience.

    And, I would say the same thing about liberal activists who try to shout down conservative speakers on college campuses.
    By Jenny @ 08/10/09 09:34:43 AMreport abuse
  • Healthcare for dummies
    If Barak Obamas' Public Option ( which I will call BOPO) is going to be so good for America, why don't Pelosi et al scrap their taxpayer funded options and go for BOPO too?
    By Floyd @ 08/10/09 09:29:24 AMreport abuse
  • Hoyer and Pelosi
    It's going to be a great day in January 2011, when Pelosi has to pry that gavel out of her butt crack and hand it to a republican.
    Keep talking, SanFran Nan. Just keep talking. LOL
    By Randy @ 08/10/09 09:27:20 AMreport abuse
  • If anyone is Un-American it's Nancy!
    "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." Thomas Jefferson
    By JP @ 08/10/09 09:26:32 AMreport abuse
  • Down with the Queen!
    HRH Nancy Pelosi, what a crybaby! She can't stand it that people actually oppose her government take-over of health care insurance. These people are spending us into oblivion faster than anyone thought possible two years ago. (The Republicans wanted to do it in a much more leisurely manner.) Her Statist Majesty has decreed that we cannot dissent. She also doesn't want members of congress to actually read the legislation on which they are to vote. Just vote yes and everything will be OK. Next, I will forward her article to flag@whitehouse.gov as "fishy."
    By Jim Smith @ 08/10/09 09:21:48 AMreport abuse
  • Look at the bright side . . . .
    These DemoCRAPS are so arrogant right now that they're saying and doing all kinds of completely asinine things to insure that the 2010 elections are going to get them voted right out of majority.

    These people are clowns and they've gotta be voted out. John Adams and Patrick Henry are spinning in their graves like rotisserie chickens.
    By Angry Johnny @ 08/10/09 09:05:17 AMreport abuse
  • Oh contrare?
    "Oh contrare Oh mighty Democratic leaders. It's un-American not to allow a proper debate."

    It's au contraire, you grand frommage. Luv you long time, High Priest.
    By RoosterPisces @ 08/10/09 09:01:52 AMreport abuse
  • Voters
    I want to meet anyone who would vote to re-elect either one of these goons.

    Have a few choice words for you to your face.
    By Joyce M/Blythe @ 08/10/09 08:59:31 AMreport abuse
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