Dear Neal,
The liberals are highly successful because they lie, and they tell people what they want to hear, in simple, bite sized sound bites.
Try this one, "Do you want to keep more of your money in your wallet, or less money in your wallet?"

Robert, I regret to inform you that compliance costs would not go down one single cent. Under the Fair Tax, employers are required to report all wages paid to the government (ostensibly for social security purposes).

That means the current wage accounting they do now will still have to be done under HR25. In fact, all the tax code that HR25 repeals will have to be reimplemented, except for sections 1 and 11, as HR25 does not provide any meaningful definition of income or wages, which we will need on account of income reporting. Not to mention for purposes of the income tax contained in HR25... (section 905, look it up).

And if income is getting reported, that means the reported incomes will have to get audited. That means the IRS doesn't really go away, although it may get renamed.

Basically, a whole lot of what you've been told about the Fair Tax is simply not going to happen. They could have been made to happen, but unfortunately the implementation details actually in HR25 don't allow it.

"Any plan that hinges on the voters keeping politicians in line is doomed to failure right from the start."

That would be everything that has been dreamed up and passed as a law since Gen. Cornwallis surrendered at Yorktown. The problem is that the current tax code helps shield Congress from scrutiny by obscuring exactly who the winners and losers are whenever a new tax law is enacted. With Fair Tax, ANY change in the tax rate would be immediately visible at the cash register. And any change to the Fair Tax being one rate for all transactions would also be just as easy to spot. It is currently written to remove the gaming of the system that is now standard in the current tax code. Yes, people would still have to pay attention once it is passed. We will ALWAYS have that responsibility, for any legislation, not just Fair Tax. But right now, what can we pay attention to? What part of the enormous tax code should we focus on? Which of the vast multitude of deductions, exemptions, schedules, and withholdings should we address as attentive and concerned citizens? You begin to see the problem when you consider that ordinary citizens are left feeling overwhelmed and helpless before a purposefully labyrinthine tax code.

So when we finally pass Fair Tax, our first responsibility should be to guard against looters trying to re-write the law for their selfish gains. I fully expect someone will try it. I also fully expect that many people will have their attention elsewhere when the attempt is made. None of that means we shouldn't fix what is definitely broken.

Is there any way you can link to a recording of this or provide a transcript? I have friends who would like to read/listen and I would love to listen again. Thanks!

I ask because the men who wrote that 'American ideal' were not the same breed of liberal to which you refer. "Liberals" of America's past would be called conservatives today.

Sorry, but I'm a patriot till death. I'll stay right here and keep fighting the plutocrats and their brainwashed drones who keep trying undermine the American ideal.

Which liberals wrote.

Your utopia is only 90 miles off the Florida Keys. If you can find a way to get there just stand on the shores of the Florida coast and take one of the boats of the Cubans refugees who used it to escape "paradise". Good luck.

Please send us a postcard and tell us capitalist losers how wonderful everything is after you get there.

I've read the book. I understood the book and all the arguments therein.

I'm not for the Fair Tax. Amazing, isn't it? Maybe you can get the High Priest of your cult to excommunicate me or something....

Sounds good but how is government suppose to pay for national defense ?

I live in a state where the states payroll taxes as well as several other forms of taxation are in place and we are still floundering much like california and a nearby state massachusetts.or as we call em taxachusetts..home of the kennedys..do as we say and not as we do, im still wondering how their family has so much money seeing how the base of all of it was made during prohibition and the money was undeclared us currency.aka ill gotten wealth.awful nice of the government to give out those stimulus packages it seems to be helping create lots of jobs for our polichickens friends we just hired a stimulus czar to oversee how our stimulus is spent a mere salary of not less than 100k per year with benefits.meanwhile most are floundering like fish outta water with zero stimulus jobs and zero benefits left to collect.unemployment claims will soon look great because the people are running out of benefits..home sales will be up because the banks will need to practically give these homes away due to the inability to pay out of touch property taxes..abolish the 16th ammendment and give us The Fairtax..

Read Laurence M. Vance

-"Wealth envy" does not change when politicans can manipulate welfare checks instead of rates...this may be WORSE!

-To say the FraudTax "makes payment of federal taxes essentially voluntary" shows how stupid-&or-contrived this "idea" is...do I HAVE to explain why this is a lie?

-"the poor are completely protected from paying any taxes at all to the federal government under the FairTax"
That is why the FraudTax is NOT fair...politicans can adjust the "prebate" welfare checks!

Read Laurence M. Vance!

Please make this available as a podcast.

"If the fairtax is so good then why are all the states with no income tax floundering right now while the other states are doing OK?"

Would you please back this assertion with documentation? It's not wise to just throw words around. Most of us are NOT lemmings & prefer to see PROOF!
Thanks.

to people used to a single rate consumption tax on purchases.

Go ahead and imagine how you would sell a system that penalizes success, rewards losers, is empowered to seize your asserts under the assumption that you are guilty until proven innocent, 67,000 pages of rules that they can't even determine how to interpret. Sell a system that makes you keep frigging pieces of paper for 7 years so that if they want to ream you years later, you can possibly prove your innocence.

Reformers at the time realized that concentrations of wealth are dangerous to widespread economic well-being.
By Stubb

They may have thought that, but it is not true. It's only through that "concentration" of wealth that growth is generated.

They definitely suffered from wealth envy.

If you're not for the Fairtax, you havn't read the book.

Companies should show support for the Fair Tax by voluntarily printing the estimated tax burden built in a product price directly on the package. Like this: MSRP - $10 (est imbedded tax $3). This way people can be reminded of just how much tax they are paying when buying goods.