Well, those of us who live near the border will just get across to get all our private medical taken care of.

Yes Montel, there ARE enough body bags.

If we waited until there was a bill that has been voted on, there wouldn't be much of an opportunity to debate, would there? We'd essentially be trying to sway the opinion of one man, and I'm thinking he's not inclined to veto whatever comes out of congress.

Some people vote for those that will give them something.

Others vote to be left alone – to keep what they've earned.

How can someone be said to be 'getting something' when all they want is to KEEP the fruits of their labor?

Yep, that can be true, especially with GS; BUT for the most part rich people (corporations technically don't vote) are asking/voting for things that will result in more jobs, better technology, etc.

If we really wanted to make some significant voting/campaign reform, we should do away with corporate contributions. Since they don't vote, we shouldn't have a problem eliminating their involvement. Don't worry about the ability of candidates competing, it's usually the big time politicians who are collecting the biggest corporate bucks anyway.

What does that have to do with my comment?

What you are speaking of is catastrophic health insurance. I have never...repeat...never heard of anyone being turned down for health care like cancer treatments. Doctors would be arrested for doing such a thing. Insurance companies would be hung, drawn, and quartered.

Step in Obamacare, and you necessarily have to ration that care. Why? You force people that do not want that type of insurance to have it anyway.

Sorry. I don't want it. Obamacare will lead to that rationing. My current healthplan will not.

thanks for the Friday laugh!

the new (and improved) United States of Kenya. The upside is that we could, at last, win our own marathons.

The only bill that we apparently have is HR 3900 which has not even been voted on in the House yet. Nothing has been presented by the Senate. How can you have ANT rational debate when you have nothing on which to base the deabte on?

No i did not get to see those bodys dragged out of the E/R because i only go to Atlanta hospitals and these people bought the farm outside the city of Atlanta. Maybe I will make my next vacation plans for a city like Los Angeles to observe how they conduct the morning body removals. I wonder what color their body bags are? The black ones they use here are SO boring. OOOOH! Maybe i'll go to New Orleans! They have those jazz bands play at funerals. That could be entertaining. Moocher, no one said that people never die at emergency rooms due to improper care. It happens, and it will continue to happen. I believe that if we have socialized care in this country you will be able to show me more than four cases of people dying in E/R's.

DAMIFINO..............damn it you have solved the mistry. goo' fo' you....I couldn't have said it better even if I had thunk it....

you deserve a break....take the weekend off.....have too many adult beverages, drive like a mad man over some stinkin' muslim liberals and we'll see you here monday.................oh! get to kalifornia and pick up some pot for us before the gubmint grabs it all for themselves..............

will someone please tell Lt M. Williams he ain't in kenya.....and it ain't legal to shoot sick nigroes here in the u.s.

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or this one?
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how about this one?
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need another one? okay.
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Montel's response as well as the liberals here is nothing short of typical. As was said, try reading the bill. I did and my eyes began to bleed at about page 20. Funny thing is that my getting to page 20 is a lot farther than some of the legislators had gotten to.

And Frank Sanders(please don't be the former Arizona Cardinals receiver), you are a complete and utter dope. If you are unfamiliar with the term straw man, just re-read your post because that's all you've built. Auto insurers aren't in the business of losing money and signing on high risk drivers is a sure way to do so. If you're an unsafe driver, you'll get coverage but you will pay for it so you won't be denied coverage. As for pre-existing conditions, let's use your auto insurance analogy. You are an auto insurer. A customer comes to you who owns a totaled car and wants to insure it. Are you going to sell them a policy then let them get their car repaired or replaced on the policy you just sold them? If you say yes then you'll be out of business in about 15 minutes. Now, a car isn't the same as someone's health but you have to look at things logically from the perspective of the insurer. How do you expect an insurer to stay in business when you want them to sell someone an insurance policy for, say, about $3,000 a year with a pre-existing condition that costs $15K a year to treat? Again, if you do business like this and you won't be in business very long. The only difference here is that no one, and that's no one is denied care in this country. This whole thing is a complete fallacy perpetuated by the left. Hell, hospitals in Arizona are forced to treat Mexicans dumped at their facilities by Mexican ambulance drivers and do so even though it puts them in deep debt. Do a little fact checking once in a while and you will see the idiocy of your argument and even though it's probably impossible, try to think things logically.

And to those who think healthcare is a right, show me where it says that in the Constitution. I might have missed it.

Montel's comments are just plain stupid. I have heard no one say that if you could not afford your medical care you should be shot. Statements like this just inflame the passions of the ignorant and do nothing to forward the debate on what should be done and how it should be paid for.

Ah, there is NOTHING I enjoy more than waking up in America and going down to the local hospital and watch them remove the body bags of the people who died the night before because they couldn't get any care. How rediculous! The problem with the healthcare debate (along with most other debates) is that the people debating are not inteligent enough to make a cogent arguement. When Montel makes innane statements like these, you MUST consider the source. The fact that a vast majority of Americans are so ill informed on the issues that face us will indeed be the downfall of America.

This comment after he did all those ads for Partnership for prescription ads. A PRIVATE soltuion.

I have always known that Montel Williams was a Liberal, but I always respected his point of view. I thought ultimately he had the best intentions of looking out for the people. That should always be lauded- especially if we can have some form of civil discourse.

Now, he demonstrates himself to be nothing more than a typical, ignorant, Obama-supporting WASP-swatter. Just another close-minded, race-baiting jerk.

The sad truth is that under Obama's plan, his MS probably would never have been treated until it was too late. Then, at least he would get a pain pill to help him out.

I am up to my eyebrows in frustration with the GOP leadership. This plan would be so easy to demagogue.

All you have to do is get our people on TV and radio to start saying, "The democrats are taking away your Medicare. They think you are too old to be saved, and would rather give the care that would save your life to someone else that they think is more useful to the government, and are trying to choose who lives and who dies by means of a committee."

Sorry, but do you actually believe the government can do a better job than private industry?

Can you point to a healthcare system run by the government that isn't a bureaucratic nightmare?
And to the contention that “ This is because the rich don't want to pay more taxes.”

Don't they pay enough?

I've asked this question before and no one has been able to give me a straight answer on it:

Explain the MORALITY of robbing the rich to pay for healthcare?

we all, at one time or another, should be exceedingly grateful that, as yet, it is not illegal to be an a$$h0le.

"Shovel ready projects"?

Boortz and his ilk on talk radio spend endless hours frightening people with claims that the "government take-over of health care" is going to cause the elderly die due to "rationed care."

Then he complains about someone on the left doing the scaremongering. Typical.

By the way, I agree with Joe below. If people are going to take advantage of any subsidies for health insurance, they should be required to give up smoking, lose weight and get a check up every year. Otherwise they should damn well pay for their own health insurance.

eh. Statists actively argue that abortion reduces the costs of operating government because there are less people sucking off they system...

You know, I haven't seen many posts from copyleft lately.

I'm thinking this may be him/her. Just as ignorant anyways. Maybe they're related.

3mbw, talk radio and right wing blogs use facts and logic, not BS lies and scare tactics. Facts and logic blow holes in every argument the left brings up, whether it's health care, global warming, or any other issue they support.

When you don't have a leg to stand on, point fingers, make up lies, scare the hell out of people, and cry like little babies. That's the left's approach.

Your comparison of Montel's statement to talk radio is just as lacking in logic and fact as all liberal arguments.

At least you admit Montel isn't helping matters. OK, I guess this proves you aren't copyleft. Sorry for the accusation.

"But, is this statement by Montel any different than the garbage, misinformation, and scare tactics being spewed all over talk radio and right wing blogs every day? I don't think so."

I am on page 642 of reading this bill. The talk shows are not reporting misinformation as you put it. Read it for our self

finally a lib idea that won't bankrupt country...50 million bullets would be alot cheaper than paying to treat them...what an idiot!!! so now the libs are comparing our country to some third world fly hole...the future ain't looking too good.

I get the impression that it's mainly the rich folks who believe that the current health care insurance system that we have in place is fine. This is because the rich don't want to pay more taxes.

However, no one chooses to have a pre-existing condition. No one should be denied coverage. With the same analogy, imagine if a family with 10 children were told that they have too many kids to educate. Imagine if you couldn't insure your house because you once had an electrical fire in it. Imagine if you couldn't get car insurance because 10 years ago you had a fender-bender or because your eyesight is not perfect.

The current system needs to be reformed, somehow, to make health care available, and affordable for everyone regardless of income or "gasp" pre-existing conditions.

These statements made by Montel Williams are grossly irresponsible and shameful. Of course, he's on Air American and who listens to that station? But still, I'm appalled that he made these statements. It's just irrational.

First of all, never listen to a grown man who wears earrings. Sorry if that offends some readers, but it is one of the surest ways for a guy to look like a douchebag.

That said... isn't this the guy who was peddling quarters with stickers on them as "Obama commemorative coins" at 3am on some obscure cable channel?

the big evil alien wanted 10% of the world's children for some evil reason. So, what's the socailist British gov't do?

That's right, they get the military together to blow this thing out of the water... no wait... that's what they should have done.

Instead, they have secret meetings an determine that the stupid, unhealthy and likely to end up in jail kids should be turned over and the public should be told that it's a necessary population reduction so they can maintain the same level of government services that they are receiving.

I dunno about you, but the writers of Torchwood seems to have a more realistic handle on how the government operates than Montel.

Sure, in other nations people die in the streets without healthcare, but Montel should be honest with his audience and at least read what's on the walls of every emergency room about guaranteed treatment there.

I'm tired of politicians and trial lawyers painting our doctors evil, money grubbing scum. It's just more deflection by those who really are evil, money grubbing scum.

Have a nice day and don't let the government take your children to pay off the aliens.

What Montel apparently fails to realize is under Obamacare, he would not have been able to use his wealth to treat his MS and thus be very functional. He would have to wait months and receive the ordinary government health care folks of regular means have.

Not only that, he'll be taxed heavily to receive that ordinary health care.