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VOTING IN GEORGIA

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Neal Boortz
@ June 3, 2009 8:38 AM
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Last year, Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel put together a program whereby election officials would use state driver's license databases and match them against voter databases to determine if any illegal aliens participated in the voting process. The process would apply special scrutiny to any person registering to vote who said that they were not a citizen when they got their driver's license. Seems fair, doesn't it? The Justice Department thought so, and the process did indeed find illegal voters.

Well now Barack Obama's Department of Justice has decided that this program is discriminatory. So let the battle begin. Here's what the DOJ had to say for itself:

We have considered the accuracy of the state's verification process. Our analysis shows that the state's process does not produce accurate and reliable information and that thousands of citizens who are in fact eligible to vote under Georgia law have been flagged....

An error as simple as transposition of one digit of a driver[s] license can lead to an erroneous notation of a non-match.....

....Although the state has not provided data on the racial and language minority characteristics of all registrants whose applications went through the verification process, we have been able to compare the composition of those persons whom the state has flagged for further inquiry because of a non-match with both the composition of newly registered voters in the state and the composition of existing registered voters....

[A]pplicants who are Hispanic, Asian or African-American are more likely than white applicants, to statistically significant degrees, to be flagged for additional scrutiny....

So ... what is the Justice Department's beef here? Well, it seems that they're concerned that when Georgia starts to ferret out illegal voters they find more among Hispanics, Asians or Africans than they do among whites! Who would have thunk it? And since Hispanics (for instance) are more likely to be illegal voters than white folks, the entire process must be discriminatory, and therefore illegal.

Get it?

Naturally, Karen Handel is more that peeved that the DOJ has rejected her program for voter verification. So she decided to respond to the DOJ about its rejection:

The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia's already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections.

With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ's decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election.

The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.

DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia's elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant's citizenship status or whether the individual even exists.... Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.

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  • georgia defense force
    The comment from Paul regarding the Georgia State Defense Force is a complete insult to all men and women out there that devote their time to selfless acts. Although I am not in the GSDF or know anybody who is on a personal basis, I had a chance to meet them in 2007 at Fort Stewart, GA while I was stationed there (SFC in the U.S. Army). Let me tell you, I am truly proud of this group of citizens who devote their time to helping our state and country and augment The Army National Guard. Many of them are prior military who want to continue serving their country without necessarily re-upping. I am planning to leave the Army after my 3rd deployment, and I definitely want to be a part of the GSDF once I get out.

    Paul (who made the insult) obviously does not know anything about the GSDF; otherwise, he wouldn't act like a high-and-mighty, "I'm in the Air Force so I know better", mis-guided poster.

    To all the men and women of the Georgia State Defense Force, I salute you. Thank you for being there for Georgia citizens while our National Guardsmen are deployed. I realize the sacrifices that all of you make. I saw you training hard at Ft. Stewart. Keep it up. I'll be joining your ranks in the near future. Hooah!
  • georgia defense force
    Georgia State Defense Force makes movies like Red Dawn seem serious, myself being in the Air Force, I for one do not want a bunch of fat army rejects given any authority, the 2nd amendment offers much better protection and does not subject you to a camouflaged neighberhood watch
  • Voting In Georgia
    Thank-you Liberal voters for voting a Socialist, Facist change in our government. You think this is a Robin-Hood "take-from-the rich, give-to-the-poor" ideology and that is totally wrong. Wait until you get on the short end of the stick. Don't blame Bush!
  • Voting in Georgia
    There is a militia in Georgia...The Georgia State Defense Force. Although they are unarmed (for now!), they receive training that mirrors the National Guard. They are ready to serve! Bring 'em on!
  • This is crap
    We are having a digital march (phones and faxes) on June 8 to express strong disapproval of Eric Holder overturning our GA law on limiting GA voter registration to legal citizens. We will call GA Attorney General T. Baker and Governor Perdue insisting they act against this ruling.

    The idea is to fry the phone and fax lines ALL DAY to force them to act. Please forward to all your conservative GA friends and family members and ask that they help us do this.

    Please participate as fully as possible. The action items follow:




    1. Educate yourself on this issue:

    http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/06/01/georgia-non-citizens-...
    ng-to-vote/


    2. ALL DAY: Monday, June 8th:

    * Bombard GA Attorney General Thurburt Baker's Office with phone calls and
    faxes:

    DEMAND that Baker take a stand for the lawful, US citizens of Georgia, by supporting the Voter ID laws that have been passed and upheld in court, but are now being invalidated by the Obama Administration's Dept of Justice, led by Eric Holder. THIS IS BAKER'S DUTY; BUT HE HAS COMPLETELY DIVORCED HIMSELF FROM HIS RESPONSIBILITY ON THIS ISSUE, PRESUMABLY BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING IN THE DEM PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR, AND DOESN'T WANT TO LOSE POTENTIAL MINORITY VOTES. BUT IT'S THE WRONG THING TO DO, AND HE NEEDS TO HEAR THAT FROM US!

    Baker's Office Phone: 404-656-3300
    Baker's Office Fax: 404-657-8733

    * Bombard Governor Sonny Perdue's Office by phone, DEMANDING that he speak out for this law.

    Perdue has had Secretary of State Karen Handel speaking out on this with the media, but our Governor needs to be visibly and vocally out front on this issue as well.

    Gov Perdue's Office Phone: 404-656-1776
  • Holder vs State of Georgia
    Considering Holder's background, what did everyone expect? did anyone suppose he would do anything to uphold the constitution?
  • proof of eligibilit y to vote
    So the Department of INjustice has decided that illegals may vote with no proof of eligibility?
    Just exactly who does this bunch of TRAITORS think they are?
    The townsfolk with torches and pitchforks will be coming. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore.
  • Americans vs. Illegals
    This only goes along with the fact that we as Americans need Passports to get back into the U.S. and Illegals just need to cross the border, no Passports required!! The Government is out of Control, must be something the Obama and Clinton want the World Order to watch us destroy ourselves!! Oh, the Passports cost money for Americans that can be used to pay for Obama's Aunt's rent!!!
  • Voting in Georgia
    DOJ has no common sense.
    Talk about Unamerican activities.
    Where is Joe McCarthy when we need him??
  • voting in Georgia
    Let Obamski keep his changes .You Yanks keep your guns and ammo.
  • Racial Statistics
    African-Americans are more likely than whites, "to statistically significant degrees, to be" arrested, tried and convicted for murders, rapes, robberies, assaults and burglaries committed in black communities.

    Does this mean that we must now stop arresting so many blacks who commit crimes in the black community? Or maybe we need to start arresting and trying members of other racial groups for these crimes, even though they do not even match the victim's description of the perpetrator?
  • Voting In Georgia
    Wonder how many of our great "leaders" in Georgia are going to back Karen Handel? At least someone is starting to fight back!
  • Home Land Security
    Why is it that our Home Land Security is using our Atlanta airport to pilot a screening system that uses fingerprints to verify residence and yet the DOJ insists on letting anyone vote, without US GA residence proof?
  • Fedral Court vs. DOJ
    Seems to me the Federal Courts trump the DOJ. They ordered this system to be used, use it. The Democratic DOJ can suck wind!
  • its simple. we are all imports. BUT if your not legal, you dont have the right to vote. think that the bush plan should be inforced.
  • Jose in Georgia
    Si, I come to Georgia and vote for democrat, they give me food, free. Pay for wife and baby, free. Pay for health care, no pay taxes. Pay for rent. Me like Georgia, tell everyone in my village to come here, vote. Democrat pay for everything. Gracias senor Holder.
  • I like Gregg's idea!
    Georgia Voting Law
    What would happen if Georgia just continued to enforce their voting law and told the DOJ they don't have the authority to dictate Georgia laws?
    By Gregg
  • My Experience as a Legal Alien
    I have been a legal alien in the state of Georgia for 11 years. In those years, I have had to renew my driver's license three different times. After presenting my green card as proof of identification, and renewing my license, I was asked all three times if I would like to register to vote. My response all three times was "I can't vote. I'm not a citizen." All three times, the DMV employee told me "You don't have to be a citizen to vote, you just have to be legal."

    I have ever registered to vote, but my experience is in three different counties over an eleven year period. I believe the state of Georgia is fighting a battle with itself.
  • And how about the other 6.3 billion people
    on the planet, Mr. Holder? Why can't they vote in US elections too?

    Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel needs to write a letter to Eric Holder reminding him of the 9th, 10th and 14th amendments. The states created the federal government and the states are in charge of elections.

    I think the states should simply say "NO" and drag Holder in for a show cause hearing.
  • Georgia Voting Law
    What would happen if Georgia just continued to enforce their voting law and told the DOJ they don't have the authority to dictate Georgia laws?
  • I tol' you............
    oh you of lil' faith.......

    welcome to the land of osamabama's muslim rulers.

    piece by piece it is given away. who is the head of doj? who be his boss? who is kissing stinking muslim ass right now?

    hint, he gets to ride around in a great big airplane fo' free...........
  • Insulting
    The DOJ's ridiculous justification is actually insulting to me. Surely they don't really think it is due to discrimination that more Hispanics than whites were found to be fraudulently voting, considering Hispanics are so much more likely than whites to be illegals. If the DOJ just settled on this illogical line of reasoning to justify their agenda, then it's beyond insulting that they expect us stupid Georgians to just accept and believe it.
  • Lets see
    Lets see: They make this decision, and decide to have the Census answer to Emanuel. Did I miss anything? Is this not a power play?
  • Re-Register ALL Georgia Voters
    I know this will cost money but why not make everyone re-register to vote in Georgia. At least the DOJ couldn't claim discrimination in that process as everyone would be forced to prove U.S. citizenship. It is free to register and make it available only at certain locations. Last year, I saw people registering to vote at the Super H supermarket up the street from me in Suwanee. I kept thinking this could cause voter registration fraud. Why not make the re-registering at all DMVs or some other government facility.
  • voting and the justice dept
    this is the same justice department that dropped the charges of voter intimidation against 3 black panther militants in Philadelphia with the reasoning of " they filed no recourese of the charges brought against them" (Washington Times) where the heck is common sense gone to? Maybe a revolution against the current govt is justified.
  • Turnabout is Fair Play
    The State of Georgia should simply ignore anything from team Obama that does not square with what we want. That's what they do. Look how the feds handled the secured creditors with Chrysler.

    There is a great article about this on Townhall. Under columnists, check out Carol Platt Liebau's column titled,
    For Obama, "Law" is Just Politics by Another Name.
  • stomach pains
    Me too. But this is nothing. The real issue stems solely from obama having the most powerful weapon on Earth - mass mind control through the MSM. Even without the vote boost from illegals and other non-entitled "constituents", he's got this whole election thing in the bag. There are simply too many American citizens being brainwashed and programmed by the cable and network news outlets. Way too many are easy prey to clever wordsmithing and hidden bias. Don't you get it? The MSM determines who the POTUS will be - a liberal who will keep fanning the flames of national angst and human despair, which we all know are the roots of what people consider news - bad things happening mostly to good people. Isn't this what the MSM sells? Can you really find fault with their tactics to generate a profit? They're the biggest capitalists of all for God's sake! Plus there's that whole gimme gimme mentality that's just got so many losers checking their mailboxes daily for those promised checks, gas cards, and mortgage payoffs. No, illegals are not our problem with election results. The problem is squarely with the sloth and ignorance of too many Americans. If enough Americans were truly listening, observing, and caring about the decay of our country and our culture, we would wash over the illegal vote like a tsunami. And if you've been following the ACORN probes/interviews by Beck and O'Reilly you'd know by now that, like the corrupt DC politicans, all of these counter-American entities are safely nestled in obama's foul stinking shroud.

    Think about who the real enemy is here. It's not the illegals, it's not the corrupt and lying politicians, it's not even obama himself. It's an enabler called the MSM. You stop the MSM, you start shutting down the machine that is generating such widespread ignorance and misdirected decisions by the people.
  • My Question Is...
    What are the Democrats afraid of? Their whole mantra is about fairness. Well, shouldn't fairness include an election? Now, do you think they'd have this same position if the illegals were polled to vote heavily for the GOP? Something tells me no. This is fascism folks. Nothing more, nothing less. Here's a question for you all: Say I go to my polling place to vote and when I got there I was told that I voted already(someone showed up claiming to be me). What happens next? I don't know about where you all vote but I have to sign a book before I vote and my ID would prove that the signatures didn't match. What's my recourse?

    Be that as it may, here's a solution. For some reason (according to the left) requiring drivers licenses is discriminatory to minorities(however, everywhere I go I see an awful lot of minorities driving so I don't get the correlation). Here's my question, are minorities now free to rent movies from Blockbuster? I needed an ID to gain membership there. Can they no longer write checks? I guess minorities never travel because in order to fly you need to show a photo ID. This is all a power grab by the left. But like I said, if minority voters were supporters of the GOP, this would be a different story.
  • Sick feeling
    If you really want a sick feeling read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ann Rand. Written in 1957 it is SOOOOO coming true today.
  • should be front page news
    This story is huge and it makes me throw up in my mouth.
  • Georgia Voting
    Why don't you just cut to the chase and say that people that vote do not have to prove they are U.S. citizens.

    Anyone that can't or won't prove it is probably not a U.S. citizen anyway.

    This means anybody can vote by just giving their word.

    These non legal voters will choose the candidates that will do the most for them and their cause without regard for who pays for what they get (legal citizens).
  • Proud
    This makes me proud of Georgia,YOU GO KAREN. It appears someone is starting to stand up.

    Red Leader,Is there a GA militia by the way?

    God I hope so,I would stand with them.
  • sinking feeling
    "Voting in Georgia
    Every time this president or his administration opens their mouths or put pen to paper, I get a further sinking feeling in my stomach"

    I feel the same way. If you really want to feel sick, watch some history channel about the rise of the Third Reich.You will be bombarded with similarity's with what is going on now.

    I think we are going to repeat history.
  • Georgia
    This DOES cause a sickening feeling in the middle of the stomach.....
    I just signed Handel's petition mentioned in an earlier post (there's a link). I'm in Kentucky, so don't know if it will count, but I see this as a NATIONAL issue.
  • lets all vote in GA
    Looks like anyone could register to vote there now. Let's all vote in Georgia!
  • Ignore Them
    Doesn't the constitution say it is up to the state to handle it's elections appropriately?

    So why doesn't Georgia just ignore the DOJ?

    When the DOJ sues, sue them back under the 10th amendment.
  • Do it anyway
    A perfect 10th Amendment fight. Georgia should do it anyway and tell DOJ to stuff it.
  • Noise
    That noise I hear is ACORN having a massive celebration. This is nothing more than payoffs to certain groups.
    Can 2010 come already?
  • sovereignty
    Its time for GA to declare its sovereignty and assert states rights and start sticking to the constitution. Is there a GA militia by the way? Maybe that should be dusted off since the Feds look like they are determined to try to force states to participate in illegal activity.
  • Voting in Georgia
    Every time this president or his administration opens their mouths or put pen to paper, I get a further sinking feeling in my stomach. How can this be happening and no one able to do anything about it? Does the Constitution count anymore? The states are to determine how they screen and register voters as long as it does not violate anyone's constitutional rights. If illegals of any stripe are found, then the program is working. Any legal citizen can easily prove he was born a citizen or was naturalized, so no one will be disenfranchised. It is clear to me that the Obama administration setting this nation up to re-elect him by any means possible, just as there was so much obvious voter fraud that cemented his win last November. Granted, he may have won in a fair election, but it would have been interesting to see a truly accurate election. I hope Georgia fights this ridiculous ruling to the end.
  • Voting in Georgia
    Every time this president or his administration opens their mouths or put pen to paper, I get a further sinking feeling in my stomach. How can this be happening and no one able to do anything about it? Does the Constitution count anymore? The states are to determine how they screen and register voters as long as it does not violate anyone's constitutional rights. If illegals of any stripe are found, then the program is working. Any legal citizen can easily prove he was born a citizen or was naturalized, so no one will be disenfranchised. It is clear to me that the Obama administration setting this nation up to re-elect him by any means possible, just as there was so much obvious voter fraud that cemented his win last November. Granted, he may have won in a fair election, but it would have been interesting to see a truly accurate election. I hope Georgia fights this ridiculous ruling to the end.
  • The Onus
    Just as the onus is on the individual to maintain his own personal hygiene, the onus is on the voter to ensure his right to vote is legitimate.

    I tell you, this government will not stop until it has a hand in everything we do. If gov't doesn't get what it wants, it sends in the goons (DOJ) to fix matters.
  • Handel
    "Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy." Well, duh! This sentence describes the whole of the Obama administration; everything they do and say.
  • Sign Handel's petition!
    Please sign Karen's Petition, here:

    http://www.karenhandel.com/site/c.nmL0KhN0LxH/b.5208601/k.ADFC/Help_Karen_Handel_Stop_NonCitizens_from_Voting_in_Georgia/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=nmL0KhN0LxH&b=5208601&en=ghJHJSNCKhJLLTMBJ7IGLYPLLkJLKZPFKdKLK3PQKvE
  • Attention Illegal Aliens: Wanna Vote? Go to Georgia
    After all, why should anyone have to prove they’re a citizen?
    The DOJ doesn’t see fit to enforce Title 8 of the U.S. Code, so this comes as no surprise.

    They’re basing this decision on past transgressions against Black citizen voters in the South, which they are now trying to extend to illegal aliens who cannot show valid proof of citizenship, because they have none.

    It has nothing to do with ‘voting rights’. It’s a tactic on the part of a liberal contingent in the DOJ to limit the States’ ability to validate citizenship, thereby proving you actually have the right to vote. Proving citizenship isn’t ‘discrimination’, it’s the right thing to do. Since La Raza thinks it’s okay for illegals to vote here, can I go to Mexico and vote in their elections?

    Georgia needs to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court. On second thought, if Sonia Sotomayor gets appointed, the integrity of our entire voting system may be at risk.
    The DOJ is wrapped around the axle over perceived ‘voter discrimination’, but won’t bat an eye when overseas absentee military ballots disappear.

    Well, liberals do have to have priorities.
  • Voter Verification
    Gee, maybe the WHITE HOUSE should control voter ID verification, just like it's taken over the Census.

    That should fix everything, right?
  • Go Karen!
    Voting used to be a state responsibility to enact their own procedures. Once again, Federal government overstepping their constitutional bounds.
  • So what will happen when, as an average white dude...
    ...I go to the polls next time and refuse to show my I.D. Will I be denied until I come back in black-face or with a sombrero?
  • Mathematics "WHAT!"
    Okay, the DOJ states "Although the state has not provided data on the racial and language minority characteristics". Then the DOJ states "[A]pplicants who are Hispanic, Asian or African-American are more likely than white applicants, to statistically significant degrees, to be flagged for additional scrutiny." So, they state first that there can be causal relationship between the flagging and the race of the individual because the data was not made available. Then, they show there is a statistical correlation and blame it on racism. That isn't racism! That is the data showing itself out. That's just called DATA!
  • Federal Government.
    You will have to excuse me I was educated in our wonderful government school system, but is this a case of the federal government stepping in to stop a State from governing itself?
  • Thanks for this info, Mr. Boortz
    Good info.

    Sickening what's becoming of this country. If I were to migrate to another country, I'd FULLY expect to be scrutinized more if I wanted to participate in the host country's public policies.

    Ridiculous.
  • Change we can believe in
    This is more "Change we can believe in." All you Obama supporters must be happy and proud that illegal aliens can now influence US elections.
  • Anyone?
    Anyone know if this can be appealed to the Supreme Court, or is this a different matter?
  • i love the hypocrisy
    "process does not produce accurate and reliable information and that thousands of citizens who are in fact eligible ...have been flagged."

    Let's apply that to Welfare, medicare, TSA boarding policy, etc... those systems are full of holes and inaccuracies and yet there's no stopping those.
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