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THE OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE CROWD

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Neal Boortz
@ June 4, 2009 8:18 AM
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This is an example of what Webguy and Cristina see on a regular basis. Day in and day out, hundreds of emails like this are sent to the show, and day and day out hundreds of emails like this are deleted. I never see 'em. But I guess we are all just going to have to get used to these types of emails for the next four to eight years while Obama is in office. By the way, this truther didn't have the gonads to use a real email address.

Name:Andrew
Subject:Your a tool

It is so funny. We have a pretty strong case against Obama and his citizenship issue. It is grounds for impeachment at the minimum.

We might need impeachment in the end to slow down Obama's socialization of the United States. Unfortunately, it is individual Americans and not the Press that is doing the digging.

I am fine with you not wanting to talk about it, but please don't turn listeners into loons by belittling their efforts. We are all trying to save the country, not just you Neal.

Notice the misspelling of the word "your" in the subject line. Must be government educated.

Get over it folks. Obama was born in Hawaii. He's a citizen. Deal with it.



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What others are saying

  • This is Ridiculous
    Conservatives, such as myself, need to focus more on providing alternatives to the legislation threatening to break down some of the fundamental principles of our country. However, rather than focus on what needs to be done, some idiots out there, claiming to be conservatives, waste time digging up bogus stories like this. He is a citizen like it or not. So long as his father was here under legal means, (doesn't have to be a citizen), and his mother was a citizen, (as she was), then Barack Obama is ruled to be a natural born citizen. I almost feel that part of this debate is over the fact that he is half-black. No other president was given this kind of scrutiny; not even our first few who were originally of British citizenship. Then again, waste your time with this nonsense, while the Democrats get away with their liberal agenda. I personally find Obama to be a smooth-talking, crooked politician, just as most are. However, I also believe him to be a citizen. By the way I am educated in the public school system, so Neal, just know that not everyone in such school systems are arrogant 'tards like the many who've commenter on this thread. Obama is president, deal with it; conservatives, myself included, don't like it, but we must use this time to fight off liberal legislation. Let's start working towards 2010 and 2012, rather than working towards finding a nonsensical, falsehood in a completely legal birth-certificate.

    P.S.
    *From Wikipedia (yes, I know, people will claim Wiki is full of sh**)*
    Under these two rulings, the following persons born in the United States are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, and thus do not qualify for automatic citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment:
    Children born to foreign diplomats
    Children born to enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States
    Children born to Native Americans who are members of tribes not taxed (These were later given full citizenship by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.)

    The following persons born in the United States are explicitly citizens:
    Children born to U.S. citizens
    Children born to aliens who are lawfully inside the United States (resident or visitor), with the intention of amicably interacting with its people and obeying its laws
  • The Mark Of The Beast
    I saw a close-up of Barack Hussein Obama's birth certificate from the Hawaii Dept. of Health. Check it out for yourself....The Certificate Number is: 151 1961 010641

    Now pay attention here.

    151 + 1961 + 010641 = 12753

    Now add up the individual digits....
    1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18

    You know what that means?

    18 = 6 + 6 + 6

    Do I have to spell it out for you? 666 people!!!!! THE MARK OF THE BEAST!

    Lord Jesus, COME QUICKLY!
  • It IS Possible
    "Get over it folks. Obama was born in Hawaii."

    Not so fast. It seems it IS possible to be born in one place, yet be documented being born in another. Can someone explain how a person born in China winds up holding a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth?

    Background:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Yat-sen

    Sun Yat-sen (12 November 1866 or 24 November 1870 – 12 March 1925)

    Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866 to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county, Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau). The latter claim is likely to be correct, as the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was issued based on Sun's typewritten testimony, rather than on any documentation from witnesses….

    After receiving a few years of local school, at age thirteen, Sun went to live with his elder brother, Sun Mei, in Honolulu. Sun Mei, who was fifteen years Sun Yat-sen's senior, had emigrated to Hawaii as a laborer and had become a prosperous merchant.


    The certificate:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii

    A portion of the certificate reads: “……And it appears from his affidavit and the evidence submitted by witnesses that he was born in the Hawaiian Islands on the 24th day of November A.D. 1870…”
  • "Get over it folks. Obama was born in Hawaii."
  • Why is it impossible?
    There is no evidence proving where Obama was born. The document he released is only an electronic image of an abstract of his birth registration. It identifies neither the hospital he was born in nor the Dr. who delivered him. Besides, he was born with dual loyalties (father was a Birtish subject) which disqualifies him altogether.

    SO, Neal, in the absence of solid proof, you are apparently unwilling to admit that someone could possibly rise to power by fraud from Chicago politics, is that right? Puh-leeze!

    http://citizen.home.texas.net/WhatIf_Priceless.pdf
  • More than a 'citizen'
    Neal, before you throw rocks at someone else's education or grammar maybe you should better educate yourself on this issue (unless you are being purposefully obfuscating).

    Obama needs to be more than just a 'citizen' to be eligible for POTUS. He must be a 'natural born citizen' and nothing else will do. (BTW, 'nothing' is pronounced with a 'g' at the end; not "nutheen," as your professionally-trained voice gives it out.)

    The Framers chose 'natural born citizen' for a good reason. The best documented use of that phrase by the Founding Fathers ("Law of Nations," Vattel) says that a natural born citizen is born in the country in question to parents who are citizens of that country. Note the use of plurals in both key words there.

    Open your brain and pour this in you prima dona jerk: It doesn't matter where Obama was born. His father was a British subject, so Obama was born with dual loyalties and is not a natural born citizen an dyou are helping to keep a usurper in office.

    Releasing a long-form birth certificate - $100

    Defending concealment of that birth certificate - $688,000 +

    Becoming US President without proper vetting - PRICELESS !

    Brought to you by:
    http://www.cafepress.com/CandidSmack
  • Why do you hate America?
    Boortzy,

    Could you tell us why you hate America so much?

    Thanks.
  • who needs a birth certificate
    Who needs a birth certificate from Obama? I say no one does!
    I know he was born in Hawaii, go to the hospital where he was born and you will see a sign that says, "44th president born here".
  • Neal, I love you, but...
    You really shouldn't criticize this guy's grammar. I know you have a lot to do, and we appreciate your program notes that you graciously post for us, but the grammar isn't always up to par. That was a bit of a low shot.
  • Birthers
    To Club-a-Liberal

    If the Arch Angel Gabriel himself delvered Obama's birth certificate to you personally, you and the rest of the Birthers would simply dismiss it as being a forgery. Based on nothing else than an anonymous posting from some guy who says it is.

    We know how the conspiracy game is played. We watch the 9/11 truthers play the game for years. Until everyone got bored with them and they faded in obscurity.

    But you all keep stroking each other with this nonsense while us grown ups try to find a legitimate means of reclaiming the Republican party.
  • Figured as much
    Boortz - You have absolutely no proof his birth certificate is legit. The best you can do is look at the copy posted on the internet and drink the Kool-Aid like everyone else who believes it.

    Since you are government educated, we realize you don't know any better but for those who have reviewed it, have some serious doubts.

    For someone who whines & complains about the government not following the constitution, it's obvious you don't have the C.A. Honeys to seek the truth yourself.

    If you get tired of grape flavor, they mave many more to drink....
  • @Jacob
    >>>....but I find it odd when people come on here and whine about Neal not agreeing with them on abortion and gay marriage. Again, constantly criticizing Neal for not agreeing with conservative issues is idiotic for the simple fact he's not a conservative.>>>BTW, please let me know which issue (that matters) he disagrees with the GOP on. Gay marriage? Abortion? Iraq? Immigration?<<<<<

    Depends on what you consider the GOP to be. Is it the RINO wing? If so, he disagrees with just about everything. I think you are confusing someone being conservative with being a Republican. 2 different things nowadays.
  • To Carl J. Iannacone
    You say that he is a US citizen because his mother was. That is not the case.

    We must look at the state of the law at the time of his birth. And at the time of his birth, if he was born overseas, he was not a natural born citizen because his mother was not old enough to convey citizenship. BTW, at the time of John McCain's birth, the law would not have made HIM a citizen either. The law granting automatic citizenship to those born to American servicemen stationed in Panama was not passed until 6 months after he was born.
  • To Jacob
    Whatever Boortz IS, he certainly ISN'T a libertarian. Libertarians do not advocate invading countries who have not attacked us. Libertarians do not advocate laws banning smoking. Libertarians do not applaud when pharmacists are forced to sell abortions drugs against their will.
  • Yeah
    Oh noes! He misspelled "you're"! Neal, you've posted worse.

    I doubt Obama will ever be found inelgible, regardless of whether or not he really is. Probably for the same reason Neal is so dismissive of the topic.
  • Obama Birth Certificate Controversy
    I heard Neal say and I read here in the Nuze that "Obama was born in Hawaii and that's that." How is he sure of that? He can't be referencing Snopes or Fastcheck (or whatever Obama's election site is called) because both of them show and use the Certification of Live Birth as proof of his birth. No one that I have heard of has seen the actual long form birth certificate. Has Neal seen this? If Neal truly believes he's a legitimate natual born US citizen, then doesn't he think it odd or suspicious that Obama has gone to such expense and such lengths to hide all those things that would prove his citizenship,i.e. birth certificate, passport application, grant applications, school applications, etc? Why would he hide all of this if he is a legitimate natural born US citizen? And if he isn't, then this is not "nonsense" but a very serious issue, one that could lead to the undoing of all the terrible things that have been done the past four months. I wish Neal would address WHY he's so sure he was born in Hawaii.
  • Club-a-Liberal
    I do occasionally listen to talk radio. Due to work, I can't listen to all the shows (though Savage is on at night here). I first heard Neal a few years ago and mainly I only read his website.

    It seems you missed my point about Neal not being a conservative.

    " Limbaugh toes the GOP line? What? Have you been asleep the last few months?"

    Having read/watched/occasionally listened to Rush for the last 15 years, I can say that YES, he toes the GOP line. I don't care what your assessment of the "the last few months" is. BTW, please let me know which issue (that matters) he disagrees with the GOP on. Gay marriage? Abortion? Iraq? Immigration?

    If you want to identify yourself as a right wing conservative nut (your words, not mine), that's fine. There are several issues libertarians like myself can agree with you on (gun ownership, immigration), but I find it odd when people come on here and whine about Neal not agreeing with them on abortion and gay marriage. Again, constantly criticizing Neal for not agreeing with conservative issues is idiotic for the simple fact he's not a conservative.
  • doesn't matter
    Even if a bona fide Kenyan birth certificate were to surface, no court in the USA will touch a case involving his eligibility for office.

    They wouldn't touch it before the election, finding any and every excuse to dismiss all cases, they sure as heck won't touch now that he's been sworn in.

    There was a good New Yorker magazine cartoon from a couple decades ago where they showed a police wagon pulling up to a court house, then the police piling out of the wagon and into the court, then piling back out of the court with the judges in handcuffs. The courts have not been friends to We the People for a very long time now. You've got to fix the court problem before you can even begin to look at the Obama eligibility problem. Y'all are putting the cart before the horse :P
  • @Jacob
    >>>>>There are plenty of dimwits on here who (for whatever reason) get infuriated when he doesn't toe the GOP's line. Why are you people even on this website? Try sticking to Michelle Malkin or Townhall or Stormfront.<<<<

    What the hell are you talking about? Other than the mindless libs on these boards, the people on these boards who are blasting the GOP more than anyone are us "right wing conservative" nuts. Limbaugh toes the GOP line? What? Have you been asleep the last few months? Townhall? All the people there are beyond frustration over the weak GOP. Savage toes the GOP line? Are you serious?

    Wake up. I suggest you listent ot the other shows before commenting and making a fool of yourself.
  • Birth certificate
    You know,I normally just discount this crap about Obama's birth certificate,but with all the odd shenanigans the Obama camp is doing about hiding it,maybe,just maybe there is more to it.Hmmmmm
  • Obama Birth Certificate Crowd
    I have to say Neal, I disagree with the way you handle the birth certificate subject - or more to the point - the way you avoid handling it. I am quite often very impressed with your logic and reasoning on other subjects, and that is why I’m bothering to put this on your site, and in fact why I listen to your show as much as I’m able.

    The reason that jumps out in my mind as to why you would avoid subjects of this (considered fringe) type is that you are doing so for a merely personal and selfish reason, in that you don’t want to be identified as a fringe talk show host. You want to be insensitive because that sells, but you don’t want to be labeled a kook, or that crazy conspiracy theory Boortz guy. Your ratings might slip because everyone but the tinfoil hat guys will stop listening. Well I don’t consider myself a tinfoil hat guy, but I am a conservative and a listener of yours, and I have to ask you this question:

    With everything else Obama is getting away with due to his obvious media support and evident behind the scenes (think big money power) support, do you really think it is so outlandish that he might be able to get away with running for President even though he isn’t eligible to do so?

    I admit it does sound crazy, and I’m not sure I believe it, but to dismiss something out of hand because it seems crazy in the context of our sensibilities is not using logic, and stinks more of a closed minded liberal toady than a logical conservative thinker, like I actually believe you to be.

    You yourself trash Harry Reid for supporting Sotomayor because he admits he accepts her without checking into her opinions, while you wave aside the contention of what may be many thousands of Americans concerning the legality of the President with mere insults and an obvious absence of even brief research. That is an interesting position Neal, even considering it is those people’s responsibility to prove their position, and isn’t yours to have to refute.

    If you have looked into this issue, and put fact out for the listener then I missed it, and I will apologize if I find you have. If you secretly think it has merit but will not address it because you think it’s too fringe and therefore going nowhere, then I’m correct in my thinking for the reason of your lack of action – see paragraph two.

    I’ll still listen to your show, and probably agree with most of what you to say – heck you are leagues beyond Hannity - but I felt compelled to exercise the old word processor on this one, and drop you a line. LOVE the Fair Tax books BTW.

    Thanks, Joel
  • @ Copyleft 09:54:25 AM
    I typically don't agree with anything you write, but with this message, I think you're on to something.
  • The problem with this argument on this site is that many of the people who listen to Neal and post on his message board assume he's on the Michael Savage/Rush Limbaugh team. Neal is NOT A REPUBLICAN. NOR IS HE A CONSERVATIVE. HE'S A LIBERTARIAN.

    He doesn't froth at the mouth over things like abortion, gay marriage, and Obama's birth certificates because he's not a rank-and-file conservative.

    There are plenty of dimwits on here who (for whatever reason) get infuriated when he doesn't toe the GOP's line. Why are you people even on this website? Try sticking to Michelle Malkin or Townhall or Stormfront.
  • What I've learned
    Neal, Before you dismiss the "Birthers" why not acknowledge what others have learned . Hawaii issued a 'Certificate of Live Birth' for Obama. This is not a birth certificate, and simply states that he was not born in a hospital in Hawaii. It simply means he was born either in another country, or he was born at home. His grandmother in Kenya states that he was born in a hospital in Kenya. When Jerome Corsi traveled to Kenya to attend a meeting with people that could confirm this, he was detained-- ( kidnapped) and was kept until a sizable ransom was paid for his release. Obama has expressed that he has a "transparent" administration, yet a good deal, if not most information on his past has been sealed by his request, including college records. Please have an open mind and search for the truth. I agree with others, that no one hides information about themselves by request and spends a million dollars to stop lawsuits-- if there is nothing to hide. I've read that Soros is paying the bill, so add that info into this mystery. Wake up--- something serious is amiss here.
  • How would you know?
    "Get over it folks. Obama was born in Hawaii."

    How in the world would you know that? The one piece of paper that would allow you to say that with certainty is being locked in a safe.

    I don't know where Obama was born and I don't care where as a person he was born, the point is that I should know where the POTUS was born.
  • @ Carl J. Iannacone
    If he were born on the moon, he would NOT be a citizen, as his mother was not 18. Moot point & argumentative.
    If he would just release the original, the controversy would be over.
  • Jerome Corsi Arrest in Kenya
    On October 7, 2008, Jerome Corsi was arrested in Kenya while interviewing Obama's relatives. Obama's Kenyan grandmother had previously stated that Obama was born in Mombasa and that she had been present at his birth. There also was some discussion over a year before the 2008 election that indicated that Obama had been born in Kenya because his eight-months-pregnant mother could not travel back to Hawaii because of her condition.

    At the behest of the Anointed One, Kenyan officials arrested Corsi, seized his computer and notes and deported him. Subsequently they issued an order forbidding contact with the Anointed One's relatives by westerners/journalists.
  • Spelling
    Neal, You misspell all the time. You might want to reign that in!
  • @Jeff
    >>>It's no use Neal. Just like the 9/11 "truthers", the birthers will accept no logic or reason that will dispell their conspiracy fantasies. It's what they live their sad little lives for.<<<

    OK, Jeff, enlighten us Birthers on the evidence you have to say he is deifinitely a NBC.

    Give me your "logical" answer as to why Hussein has spent nearly a million bucks on legal fees to prevent the release of the original, and will not simply have Hawaii end all of this by simply giving them permission to release the records? You think it would be a win-win for Obama: One, he would end all of the controversy, and Two, h would make all these Birthers look like fools. Why not do it?

    While you are it, please tell me how he traveled to pakistan, or as your beloved President says Pockey-ston, during his college years?

    Since we are such nutcases for merely finding all of this, ata minimum, questionable, you should be able to answer all of these questions with logic and evidence right?
  • Deal with it
    Its NOT going away. YOU deal with it.
  • Birth Certificate
    What is he hiding?

    This is not going AWAY!
  • Nealz Nuze
    BTW - Have you ever actually read your own news and reading assignments? They're full of such typos every day.
  • YOU'RE A TOOL
    There. Is that better?

    heh heh

    Anyway, aside from the tpyo in the subject line I dont really have a problem with the guys email. Id say he has a legitimate point. Doesnt anyone else see it that way too? Its sad, isnt it, that no one is willing to really look into this matter?
  • yeah Birthers.. get over it
    The Birthers are idiots because there is no way the status quo of Obama's presidency will be challenged.

    Just like the status quo of the IRS... there's just no way any 'conspiracy' like some sort of fair tax scheme would ever be proven viable. I'm sure Neal will back me up and say that putting any sort of effort toward trying to make things right is pointless and we should get back to Tivo'ing American Idol.

    Right, Neal?
  • Birthers
    It's no use Neal. Just like the 9/11 "truthers", the birthers will accept no logic or reason that will dispell their conspiracy fantasies. It's what they live their sad little lives for.

    We just ignore them over on Free Republic and let them talk to each other. A tinfoil hat circle jerk if you will.
  • sometimes 'your' a dick
    Neal, I enjoy reading your website every morning, and I agree with most of what you say. But I have to disagree with you on the Birth Certificate issue. And not only that, I have to say that you have a tendency to be a dickweed when referring to those who feel that it is an issue of importance.

    And then using the fact that a reader misspelled "you're" is rather hypocritical, considering that you attack democrats for using similar 'debating tactics'... not addressing the issue, but attacking some character of the person. Have you ever misspelled anything on your website? Or rather, have you ever had a day go by when you didn't?
  • @Susan
    Right on!! I, too, have noticed that Neal has changed. I have followed him since I moved down to Atlanta after college about 15 years ago. I agreed with him on almost all the issues. Seriously, since the election of this Kenyan ba$tard (not being crude here, just using the actual definition of the word), it's as if I noticed me almost disagreeing with Neal on a daily basis.

    Simple common sense, is it not strange that we need to provide proof for practically getting a job as the french fries guy at McD's, but not to be President??

    I alsways heard him say the "Law is supreme", and now he practically tells us that if there are technicalities in the NBC re:OBama that we should move on?? Does that make sense on how to use our constitution?

    What really pi$$es me off is the way he doesn't even debate this along with other issues like abortion or gay marriage. All he offers is an insult to the "Birthers", offers no evidence or reason to support his side of the debate, then drops it and doesn't even listen to our reasoning. Just like with gay marriage last week, he offers his mindless and childish slogan of "How does that affect your marriage if gays are able to get married", and then he drops the debate.

    Neal was my #1 talk show host for the last 14 years. He is not even in my Top 5 anymore.
  • It's Just a Birth Certificate
    "Day in and day out, hundreds of emails like this are sent to the show, and day and day out hundreds of emails like this are deleted. I never see 'em."

    Never say never, Neal.

    Obviously, you've seen them.

    Ask yourself: Why - if this man was born in Hawaii - is he spending upwards of one million dollars, to date, in legal fees to prevent release of his long form birth certificate?
  • Obama's COLB is a PROVEN FAKE!
    Why would a citizen spen a million dollars to avoid producing a $10 certificate? Check this link for proof:

    http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
  • Re:Forrest
    Yea right ! Lets just pick and choose the parts of the Constitution that we feel is hip today. What about say for instance some country has some information about you that could expose you as the fake that you are.
  • osamabama without............
    a backward glance has flipped off amerika. no bc, who cares? we should!!!
  • NBC
    The Constitution does not define what a NBC is. That is becaue the term was in common use at the time and did not need to be defined. This is the definition of NBC at the time of the Constitution

    ------QUOTE
    "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society can not exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as a matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. THE COUNTRY OF THE FATHERS IS THEREFORE THAT OF THE CHILDREN." - Emmerich de Vattel , Law of Nations 1758
    ------QUOTE END

    John Jay had "The Law of Nations" when the Constitution was being drafted. He wrote:


    "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and reasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."
  • @ Rick
    Well, I've never left the country (unless I was unknowingly foreign-born) so I've thankfully not been through the nightmare that I understand passport acquisition to be. I was informed however that I can obtain a replacement birth certificate from a courthouse, which would suffice for passport purposes, but that wouldn't be original and wouldn't have my cute little footprints on it, so I'd still be without proof of natural birth.

    Come to think of it, the Constitution doesn't require a birth certificate to run for President, so maybe I'd not be affected. The Constitution only states that a candidate must be natural-born. I suppose this means that someone would have to live fraudulently from birth until at least they are 35 years old (or 46 in Obama's case). That's an awful lot of work, especially if you don't win the election.
  • Obama's birth place
    He could have been born on the moon for all that it matters. His mother was a US citizen, so he is. End of story.
  • moron
    Under which provision is he trying to get him impeached? Does this guy even know the requirements?
  • Rumors.....
    Neal,

    Sometime, a long time ago, I was told that rumors are TRUE 80% of the time. Love it! Therefore, there is an 80% chance his BC has questions.

    Try the 80% test sometime. You'll be surprised.

    PS Teenage girls tend to use rumors to forward their agendas!
  • Birthers Are Right, Neal
    Against you on this, Neal. Obama should be forced to cough up birth records to the federal court system, if not the public, upon complaint of any citizen or opponent. We have constitutional requirements of the office that must be met. To expect others to accept the statement of Obama or a government agency is simply misguided. Matters of fact are determined in the judicial branch and there is more than reasonable doubt as to his place of birth and rights of citizenship. There is simply too much at stake.

    If the media were worth a damn, they'd already have snagged a copy of his birth records by now. But they aren't and haven't.
  • To Forrest....
    Try to get a Passport...You WILL have to get an ORIGINAL of your birth certificate!!! But for you to be President, I guess you won't have to produce it. Go Figure.
  • forrest is screwd
    Forrest, sounds like you won't be doing any traveling, not even a cruise ....no BC no passport.

    and Boorzt is a moron about this, mister (Law should be supreme) does not even care what the Constitution(remember that)? has to say about electing the president.
  • Show me the BC
    Neal. Why did the democrats vet John McCain so closely when it came to question whether he was eligible, however the pretender doesn't or didn't have too? I believe obama is not who he says he is, and the proof that he has spent over a million dollars to hide a $12 birth certificate is hard to dismiss. Don't disbarage those who think differently than you do - for that is what the United States has been built upon, a difference of opinion and the acceptance of it. Lately I have found I don't agree with your opinion, however it is your right to believe the way you do and it is not my right to judge you.

    I have listened to you on the radio and read your site for many years and have found that you have changed. Perhaps it came when your site was rearranged, I am not sure. However, again it is your right to cite your opinions, but it is not your right to judge others who are not in agreement.

    Show me the birth certificate, prove to me that he didn't get scholarships based on the fact he was registered as a foreign student, show me the facts - It is simple and plainly stated. In my eyes this man is destroying the United States of America and the Constitution and my concern is viable.

    God Bless America and may she always be free from tyranny.

    Thank you.
  • @Forrest
    I totally agree
  • COLB issues not frivolous
    Neal I'm a regular listener and generally agree with you on most issues, however your summary dismissal of Obama's eligibility to hold the office of President is extremely disappointing.

    The arguments raised by the outraged population you dismiss as "The birth certificate crowd" are not based on wishful thinking, delusions of grandeur or by the misinterpretation of facts by a bunch of hapless idiots. If you would take the time to familiarize yourself with the details, you will find the arguments are based on a preponderance of evidence -- some of which is readily available to examine for yourself.

    Forget the eligibility and citizenship issues for the moment. I challenge you to take a long, serious look at Obama’s famous “COLB” document – the one released to the press by the Obama campaign as proof of his US citizenship. The document is a forgery Neal. A photoshop-created, readily-discernable fake.

    I know, I know. Officials from the State of Hawaii supposedly put this whole issue to rest by affirming his citizenship. Read the details Neal. It didn’t happen. The Democratic party operative, who happens to be the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health, did NOT confirm the COLB was real or that BHO was born in Hawaii. All he was willing to say on record was that Obama’s original birth certificate is on file with the state of Hawaii. Purposely, intentionally vague. The same individual has been asked dozens of times to clarify his statement and has refused. Here’s the quote:

    “I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i , along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

    As for evidence you can view with your own eyes, download the original image of the “COLB.” Now search for the other readily-available examples of authentic COLB documents issued by the state of Hawaii during the same, or any other period of time. The patterned border around the edges of the document does not match ANY known Hawaiian COLB document from ANY time period.

    You’re an attorney Neal. Examine the facts for yourself. Spend a few dollars and hire your own independent forensic document examiner and see what he tells you.

    Additionally, none of the evidence has yet been heard in a court of law. Each case has been declined on the basis that either the court or the petitioner did not have proper authority to try the case.

    The arguments are not frivolous Neal. Have the gonads to use your capacity for rational thought and your experience as a legal professional to critically examine the evidence for yourself.
  • about NBC rules...
    The NBC rules were inserted into the Constitution to prevent someone contemporary to the founders who was of British-birth from becoming President and yielding control of the newborn Union back to the Crown. That's about it. If you want to look at the Constitution as the founders intended, thats the answer you seek. They were not concerned about someone having a foreign father, especially when that father was almost entirely absent for the life of the individual under consideration for Office. It was an interjected law for the preservation of the Union in the first generation or two of leaders, those leaders who could have loyalties to governments other than the United States. That is not the case with Obama, I don't think we have to worry about him turning the US over to Kenya. Get over it.
  • questions
    You know Neal, I'm don't think the birth certificate thing is going to change a whole lot. But, if I were a defense attorney arguing a case, it certainly seems reasonable to ask the question WHY? Why not just produce the document? We wouldn't even be talking about this if he just produced what the rest of the 250+ million US Citizens have to.

    Something is being covered up. The question is why?
  • I was born in America 29 years ago, and I don't know where my birth certificate is...
    Does that mean I can't seek public office? I have a SS#, I'm pretty sure I was born in Texas ...Though, I honestly can't remember, I have to take my mother's word on it. Am I less of an American than anyone else here? I guess because I'm white and somewhat have a Texan accent that its a safe bet that I'm American, but still, I don't really have proof.
  • Reasonable Inferences
    Suppose Obama was born in Hawaii. If he were, there would be a long form birth certificate on file that showed which hospital he was born in. Hawaiian law requires the state to provide Obama a copy if he requests one. I don't know what the fee is, but I'd imagine it is between $20 and $50.

    Production of this document would end all of these questions about his eligibility.

    Yet rather than spend $50 to put an end to this, Obama has spent well over $100,000 to keep from producing this document.

    Question to Boortz & all of the others who dismiss the "birthers":

    Is it reasonable to infer that a person who could end this controversy for $50 by producing a simple document he says is on file would spend $100,000 to keep from producing the document?
  • Dead horse
    This is a dead issue. I agree with Neal that Obama's socialistic spending is a more pressing issue now. If the Weekly World News were around, the birth certificate story would be front-page news.
  • BC
    It is not only whether or not he was born in Hawaii. Questions can arise to the technicalities of NBC, i.e. his eligibility of being a NBC as it relates to his Kenyan-British daddy and dual citizenship and whether the Indonesian Soetoro adopted him and he got Indonesian citizenship. I am sure that American citizens weren't allowed to enroll in those schools back then. So, how did he get in?

    It is these definitions of NBC that need to be explored, not only if he was born in Hawaii. Yes, those are technicalities, Neal, but rules are rules. I think you say that all the time. So, if we bend this one technicality, where will it end.
  • better scandal
    Screw this birth record thing. I'd concentrate on getting to the bottom of this new story about Obama's gay lover that I saw on a tabloid mag cover when I was buying some Gold Bond jock itch powder at Kroger yesterday.
  • birth certificate
    Neal,you need to quit making fun of the spelling errors people make in their emails to you.Have you ever read your Neals Nuze page before you post it?The grammatical errors are just awful.It is like the pot calling the kettle black!
  • BC Nuts
    Just like his stances on gay marriage, abortion, Sotomayor, Neal uses the Saul Alinksy method of isolating, demonizing, and ridiculing anyone with another view, even though their view is much more reasoned and well thought out.

    Neal, you remind me of these Obama drones who keep chanting mindless slogans, never learning anything from what the other side is saying no matter the evidence.

    So, now, anyone who questions Hussein's BC, they are on par with believing that Elvis and JFK are alive living on some alien UFO. You offer NOTHING to contradict what we have to say, just insults. Is that the way it works, Mr. Church of the Painful Truth?

    So, we are loons because we find it a little strange that:
    - he won't release his Original BC,
    - Hawaii has it under lock and key,
    - he has spent nearly a million dollars on lawyers to not have it released
    - traveled to pakistan while in college on what could have only been an Indonesian passport
    - went to school in Indonesia under the surname of Soetoro, his Indonesian stepdad
    - shut down access to college records
    - Kenyan grandma says he was born there

    It's clear that Obama has something in the documentation of his history, including his birth certificate, college records and other documents that "he does not want the public to know."

    So, we are loons because we are a little skeptical here and just ask for proof. I submit to you that you are the moron here who doesn't find any of this suspicious.
  • Obama Birth Certificate
    I'm pretty sure Obama was born in Hawaii, but I'm also pretty sure his mother was pregnant before she and Obama Sr. got hitched. At least when I call him what I normally do, I'm technically correct.
  • End
    I for one am tired of this story, but if you want to end this thing, SHOW THE DOCUMENTS! This is like someone asking me to show proof of birth, and I say : " Here I Am"!
  • Birth Certificate
    Neal has been losing my interest lately. He keeps bashing people who believe in the Constitution and the LAW, yet promotes a conspiracy theory that the public education system is indoctrinating our children with socialism and government is great mentality. You are extremely hypocritical in this aspect.

    It's pretty simple. Obama shows his original birth certificate, then it's over. Why has he spent over $1,000,000 fighting to show it? Just show it and make all of us "birthers" look like fools.

    And to all of you say "Who cares? He's already elected", you might want to rethink what you've said. If we ignore and/or pick and choose parts of the Constitution, you know, the supreme law of the land, then we cease to exist as the United States. Hilary is unconstitutionally the Secretary of State, Obama is questionably unconstitutionally the president, Congress passes laws that are bill of attainders, yet people don't care. We are dying as a nation that follows the rule of law.
  • Doesn't matter where Obama was born
    His mother was an American. He could have been born in Moscow, he's still an American.

    There are some questions about whether he later relinquished American citizenship (he had a non-American passport for a while), but this tail isn't worth chasing.
  • NBC
    Even if he was born in Hawaii does it really matter? He admits his father was a British citizen. Does that really make him a natural born citizen? We need to have this term legally defined. Surely dual-citizenship (if he even held it) does not an NBC make.
  • You Should Talk
    Neal, this guy needs to get a life.

    You on other hand, need to understand that criticizing minor typos and mispellings on blogs and boards is considered bad form.

    You've been on the internet long enough to know better. And you're not exactly William F. Buckley yourself, pal.
  • Birth Certificate
    I am not a conspiracy nut but you have to ask yourself – “If he was born in the US, why not just post the documents to PROVE it?” That would be the end of this issue, period end of discussion. Then we could move on to other issues. But he does not and in my experience that shows he has something to hide. If it is found true that he is not able to hold office he should be removed immediately. The law is very clear about whom and who can not hold office. But then again we are no longer a land of laws either.

    Or he could be using this as a misdirection tactic. Keep the people researching this issue, rather then something that he is really guilty of.
  • I hope its true and he admits it after his term is over...
    Then what are these people gonna do? It really doesn't matter even if it is true. He was still voted in and the people still wanted him to be President.

    The only interesting thing that could come from it being true is that maybe it would open the door for Arnold Schwarzenegger to be Pres too. Wouldn't that be great!
  • Unlawful president
    Obama family members extoll their presence at PrezBHO's birth -- in KENYA! I guess they all have flawed memories, huh?
  • Neal, You missed the point
    People are fixated on Obama's birth certificate because it's the easiest and fastest way to remove him from office. What's the alternative?
  • who cares?
    Whether or not he was born in Hawaii will never matter. He has already been elected and IS president of the United States.. Even if you were to present undeniable proof, which probably doesn't exist, of his foreign birth, it would never receive any attention and the story would be squashed. He will either leave office in 4 or 8 years.. Why not spend your time attacking issues people truly need to understand? Like high taxes, government intrusion and oppression, etc.. Hanging on to theories like this allows the media marginalize conservatives even more. Thanks a lot.
  • Tool is as tool does
    Neal,
    You've alienated a huge portion of conservatives with your recent comments about the 'birth certificate' crowd, Sotomayor and now those who probably email your show from portable devices (Blackberrys and the like). In reverse order:
    1. Sending email on Blackberrys and the like can frequently result in minor misspellings...you should know this. Don't assume; you know what's stated about that...
    2. I've reviewed some of the nominee's opinions and statements and don't believe the 'racist' label is far off the mark. It's reverse-racism, pure and simple. Yes, the blockhead republicans delivered the message poorly, but I don't believe this woman should be confirmed (and yes, I believe she is intended as a distraction).
    3. Informing intelligent Americans that they should 'get over it' is, frankly, insulting. a. The man traveled to Pakistan when doing so was banned by the US Gov and he could only have done so with his supposedly non-existent Indonesian passport, b. The COLB submitted as 'THE' birth certificate is, in fact, not...it has been issued to births out of the state; it is the State of Hawaii policy to do so (or at least was), c. Releasing the long-form BC and opening his college records would get people to 'get over it'.

    Despite my appeal to your views as a staunch conservative myself, you, Neal, become a tool when you submit along with the rest of the submissive media and stop asking the hard questions. If this is acquiescing to promote your FairTax agenda (which I support), then you have sold out.

    Shameful.
  • Neal's frustration
    First with the "racist" nonsense, and again with the birther loons. Neal's annoyed because he'd really like to participate in some INTELLIGENT debate and LEGITIMATE issues.

    Sadly, he's chosen the wrong career for that. Talk radio's purpose is to pander only to the most stupid and ignorant among us... kind of like Rikki Lake and Jerry Springer.

    Never gonna happen, Neal. You chose this job, and you're going to have to deal with right-wing morons for as long as you're doing it.
  • Black helicopters circling...
    Like a fish on a stringer you left in the water a little too long...let it go! The whole birth certificate deal is the least of our worries. Neal is right. Let it go! Obama is already in the White House, sworn in, got the keys to Air Force One. Focus on what he is doing with Healthcare and taxes, worry about him writing checks China may not want to cash, but let this one go. It's a non issue, except for the nut jobs who still think the 'Clinton meets the alien' tabloid story wasn't a hoax.
  • Randy
    Hawaii DOES count! It IS part of the USA! It's a STATE!

    YOUR (you're) AN IDIOT!
  • It amazes me...
    That in order to get a Passport you HAVE to provide an ORIGINAL birth Certificate, but to be President of the United States you don't!!!

    Why does the Obama administration continue to allow this controversity to linger on? It is not that hard to contact the state in which you were born and request an original birth certificate for a fee. Hmmmmmmmm, perhaps that is why, they are trying to figure out how the taxpayers can foot the bill for the birth certificate.

    Seriously, it is easy to put this issue to rest, produce the ORIGINAL birth certificate, and be done with this controversity.
  • we will never really know...
    i have my doubts, but I agree with Neal in the aspect that this needs to be dropped. Nothing can be done about it now and O had a chance to rummage thru his grandma's attic before the election to destroy any evidence and the universities he attended will never offer up any proof on the matter either.
  • Birth Certificate
    Before you spend too much time criticizing other peoples’ spelling and grammar, take some extra time to proofread your own Nuze section.
    I am not one of these Birth Certificate nuts, but Obama could put this issue to bed forever by releasing the document. I still find it amazing that there is no mechanism in the USA to verify that a candidate is legally entitled to hold that office.
  • Careful with your criticism
    You belittle this guy for a misspelled word while your News is often filled with misspellings and grammatical errors. The guy is an idiot but you picking on him for spelling is like the pot calling the kettle black.
  • Born in Hawaii
    Obama was born in Hawaii, get over it?

    Prove it, better yet, it's Obama who has "failed to qualify" so he needs to prove it.

    While he is at it, he can inlude all of his other records too.

    This man is a historical enigma and you wnat us to get over it as he destrys our Country, not very smart Neal
  • Other topics for the show . . .
    - The moon landing was a fake.
    - 9/11 was an inside job.
    - The guvvament has aliens in a freezer in New Mexico.
    - The eyeball on the back of the $1 bill is used for espionage.
    - Water fluoridation is a leftist plot to brainwash citizens.
    - Elvis is alive!
  • Barry's Birth Certificate
    I will believe it when I see the long form birth certificate with the hospital's name and the delivery doctor's signature. Show me the birth certificate!
  • oh my gosh
    Neal,

    If he really was born in Hawaii, then why can't he produce undeniable proof of such? What is he holding back? It's the old adage---if you're not hiding something, then why don't you come clean?
  • Obama From Hawaii
    He will slit his own political throat soon enough.
    Just give him some more time.
  • O man
    obama better be a one term wonder 8 years is simply not an option. The fluke happened but the weak can not rule the strong at the expense of the country.
  • Birth Certificate
    Hawaii don't count!!It's not part of the USA!! It's an island!!

    YOUR A TOOL!
  • Nice response Neal
    Sure, focus on a commonly mistyped/misspelled word for a non-witty, sophomoric response. I don't know if it is me or you Neal but, it seems to be easier to listen to music or Beck recently. I love your show, you not so much. the show has been a good challenge to my belief system. Recently it seems to be more pudding stirring and less thought provoking.
    I'm not giving up my seat yet. I intend to continue to listen unless the show continues to decline into a "Savage" type of a program.
    Thanks a pant load.
  • Obama's birth certificate
    How do you know that Obama was born in Hawaii? Because he said so? Obama said a lot of things on the campaign trail that he was lying about. Can you honestly believe him when he says he was born in Hawaii?
    What is your least favorite cake? I ask, because I'll be sure to send it to you in lieu of you having to eat crow when Obama is exposed.
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