Some Americans, would expect America to do absolutely nothing if the Iranian army were sitting on the Mexican border with Iranian leaders telling the world America is a threat. I bet N.Korea sees how other oppresive dictators(Pakistan) are rewarded with cash if they have nukes and wants the same treatment from America. Hit the books guys, Americans (including Neal) are being duped by neo-con mysticism on this one.

Critics of the missile defense program like tshirt-doctor (what exactly IS a tshirt-doctor anyway? Does he expertly handle an airbrush or what?) crack me up. "[T]he problem with the anti-missile defense is they've been working on it for 30 years and they have got only 50% success rate." That's like saying in 1939 that NASA was unsuccessful in getting us to the moon. It's a research and development project, genius! A more reasonable statement would be that since 2001, the Missile Defense Agency has had 37 successful hit-to-kill tests out of 47 attempts. www.mda.mil/mdalink/pdf/08news0090.pdf That's a 78.7% success rate for the government-educated. And, with the exception of 10 interceptors in Alaska, some Aegis destroyers scattered around the globe, and a few terminal area missiles in potential hotspots, the system is STILL in the R&D arena, not fully operational.

Back when St. Ronald Reagan first proposed his Strategic Defense Initiative, all you technical whiz kids said the program was technically impossible. Now, we're shooting a bullet with a bullet with a 79% success rate. Sort-of-a-god Obama didn't tell his potential voters that during the campaign, did he?

Neither.

Bush did not finish him off because he promised that the Gulf War was about liberating Kuwait, not deposing Saddam. He promised the Arab allies that was the case, which is how he was able to build such a strong coalition. Being a man of his word, he kept his promise and did not invade Baghdad.

Clinton - although he did not enforce the no fly zones and ignored the OPTION the UN gave of deposing Saddam, he did not support him =, either.

" Call me when he's an actual THREAT."

THAT is too LATE!

>>>>>Your weak attempt to hold Clinton responsible for not finishing off Saddam isn't fooling anyone. It was Bush 41 who didn't finish off Saddam and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens who rose up to overthrow the tyrant were slaughtered when we bailed out.<<<<

Based on a read of your last few posts, it is quite clear you got your information from Michael Moore Fahrenheit 9/11 movies. What's your next big argument, genius? that Bush choked on a pretzel?

Your quote above is hilarious. So, are you saying that if Bush 41 said let's go topple Saddam and finish the job, that all the libs/Dems would have been gung ho??? You make it sound like Bush 41 had to fight tooth and nail against those hawkish libs to get his way and not finish off Saddam. I don't recall any libs criticizing Bush 41 on not finishing the job back then.

Likewise, I love how over the last few years, particularly between 2004-2007 when the anti-war libs and Dems worked every single day to undermine the war effort, libs used the talking point of "Iraq wasn't a threat. No WMDs there. We need to worry about N. Korea and Iran.". OK, I agree that NK and Iran are threats.. So, do you libs propose attacking N Korea and Iran now? I'm confused...

Yes, we forget, she DOES read this garbage we spew!

you da man!

Matt, you're right on the money. If North Korea goes active nuclear, their likely first strike will be South Korea. In defense of South Korea, the United States would become engaged, then Japan would repeal Article 9 (for those who do not know, it is the line in the Japanese Constitution that strictly prohibits them from maintaining an Army, Air Force, or Navy, and from taking any aggressive military action). Once Article 9 has been repealed, China will become quite nervous at having all of these Democratic nations so close to their territory, attacking North Korea, which is a bordering state. Knowing that if North Korea fell, that would put China bordering yet another Democratic nation, and that is something they are probably not all that keen to see happen. So, China will enter the fray… then Russia will probably join in the fighting but with China being out there, probably on the side of the North Koreans, we may see Russia take a stance with China to prevent further penetration of staunch US allies into the Asian continent.

World War III will begin, and we’ll end up seeing a draft and millions of dead, many of them Americans.

When the dust settles, we’ll see America bankrupt but with a new friend on the Korean Peninsula (yay! Totally worth it!), Russia in an economic depression, but sitting on a wealth of natural resources (we’ll be crawling to them for oil after the Sauds dry up or cut us off) and China will be the new world center of economic viability with their near limitless work force and wise economic policy (well, what can I say… they know how to save, invest, and not spend more than they take in… unlike our leaders).

This is all going to end very badly for the U.S.

shuttin' down, you made me smile thanks.

to all others. I don't intend argue with any posters 'cuz some have very well thought out ideas and many point out things that may be new to us.

Joyce M/B, Ivan, Red Leader, Forrest, cowboy and many others, you make coming to this site worth while. even coptleft can make thought prevoking statements. isn't that the point? THOUGHT.....

you too tshirt...

Hey, before you blame Bush 41 for stopping short, you might want to blame congress, they pulled the funding.

Nice Try!

Bush wanted to finish the job!


AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER!

why do you want W back in office?
why don't you go to korea and start a war yourself?
or you just want other peoples kids to die?
coward

It's on the internets, it must be true!

What is it going to take for us to go on the offensive with this guy!? He's a total nut job with an itchy trigger finger... The only "western" thing the guy likes is James Bond movies, and he probably has a bunch of female sex slaves to prove it. Anyway, I wish W was still around as I don't think he would need this much of an excuse to kick some North Korean ass right now....

Forrest a few days ago your thinking and statements were on the money. has your prescription been changed?

I know you are old enough to know that the "media" isn't any smarter than our prezidunce.

I still like your thought process....

. . .then it get used against us.

For years the United States has helped arm dictators -- to keep them out of the communist bloc, to keep the oil flowing, to keep the arms makers happy. We have often found reason to regret it.

We armed the Shah of Iran before the militants in the streets overthrew him. We armed Suharto in Indonesia. He used American arms to invade East Timor and repress its people. We armed the generals and colonels throughout Central America. They ruled through death squads and terror even when civilian presi-dents were elected.

We armed the generals who ruled Pakistan, in violation of US law that sought to block aid to countries developing their own nuclear weapons. According to journalist Seymour Hersh in The New Yorker, Pakistan and India almost used nuclear weapons against each other in May 1990.

We armed Marcos in the Philippines and Noriega in Panama. But the most flagrant case was the US Government's support, legal and illegal, for Saddam Hussein's military build-up.

let's all quit pussy footin' around and just have us a lil' ol' world war. wipe out human kind.

for you belivers get god to NOT give people free will. then things may not get to this point again.

an old and sick man is in charge of new-kue-lar weapons. what does he have to lose?

does anyone 'member the lil'ol phrase "where there is a will there is a way."

either the lil' nutbag from korea or some scumbag from koranland is gunna get their way........soon.

look can looks up it on the WEB. they've got this called google. would don't you look up "anti-missile defense failure" or something like that. you can look for failures by date---1994,1996 etc. that's not too hard for you, isn't it? it may take some time

My fellow Americans, after another launch of a nuclear capable missle from North Korea, I've decided the pertinant thing to do is to pull American personal out of the region for their safety. We will no longer monitor their military effort, so that they don't feel threatened by us and the need to procure these systems. We will recall the navy from the region. It is too great a risk to US military members to remain in the area. We also urge the United Nations to draft another resolution to reel in this dictator.

Will you please consider removing the youthful, vibrant picture of li'l Kim and replace it with one reflective of how he looks now? Here's an example:

http://www.doobybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/kim-jong-il-is-old.jpg

I've noticed the Media in virtually all forms has just used the 15 year old stock photos of Kim, back before the stroke and before he started to lose all his hair and look like the Korean Crypt Keeper. Let’s keep it real, and not continue to propagate the idea that the Dear Leader is a youthful eternal source of inspiration for all. This is akin to showing Hitler only in photographs where he is playing games with children.

Thank you

No, Copy, it's unfortunate for us that they're right. But let's suppose they are wrong, as you say. In staying the course of being wrong, is it not possible they will eventually take some action that might be regarded as openly hostile or imminently threatening - even to the Euro-weenies and the bleeders, and cause an escalation? God forbid that it would be nuclear. So now, instead of the US having put forth a strong no-nonsense defensive posture all along - when mitigation was job one - we end up with a big mess that will take even more American lives and Monopoly money to clean up - not to mention by the poor sap who becomes (or is) POTUS when it all goes down. I'm just sayin, KimKim has had this stuff for more than 6 months - he's just been waiting for Mom and Dad to go out of town for the weekend so he could throw a big party. The babysitter named obama is nothing but a joke to him. (actually, obama is more like one of those dorky substitute teachers we used to get from time to time)

50% success rate according to whom?

* 67% of statistics are made up on the spot

...is letting the mad mullahs develop them. Like letting hitler remilitarize the Rhineland, we could stop it, and we'll be sorry we didn't.

Nuke tech will be the PRK's #1 cash export, if it isn't already, and most of their customers are people who hate our guts. Missile defense (ABM and ACM)is critical for a number of good reasons, but when the nukes start popping, the delivery method for the first ones will be truck or short range missile by a stateless entity(terrorists).

Much as I despise hussein and the dp, if they go after the mad mullahs they'll have my full support for it. I can love peace and hate war all I want, but words won't change the minds or actions of the mad mullahs.

the problem with the anti-missile defense is they've been working on it for 30 years and they have got only 50% success rate. i don't know how many billions of $$$ wasted on this.
if we wanted to we could send an air force jet to bomb the missile sites and save us taxpayers a load of $$$.
but that's not in the answers to the questions. they want us to keep sending our tax $$$$, that way don't don't need to get a real job

Just wait until BO tells him "NO NO!"
That will scare him ... just wait.

He'll only be able to nuke one or two cities somewhere relatively close to home. Then he'll die a horrible death buried alive in his Fuhrer bunker. The psychology at work here is exactly the same as the Branch Davaidians.

Look this is a power play and another rattling of the saber. Things in North Korea are tight and he has to play the "Great Protector" for his people in order to stay in power. If he really gets too far out of control, the Chinese will eliminate him in the dead of the night and North Korea will awaken to a new dictator. Trust me it is not to China’s advantage to allow this loon to upset the real balance of power in Asia.

I don't understand why Dumbocrats are so anti-missile defense. Don't they realize we could ensure nuclear peace worldwide with a good missile defense system? Once we perfect it at home we can sell it to everybody else and nobody will ever be subject to attack from a nuclear ballistic missile... sounds like a win-win for anybody that has a brain.

he like confrontation with the US. and our leaders are dumb enough to play along.

of course our (government)media and blogs (like this one) like to portray him with his finger on the nuke button, that way you'll be pleased when we go to war against him.

http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/05/oh-people-people.html

Why not just NUKE the Bastard!!!

President God will smugly, cooly strut up to the microphone and say, "Uh....um..Y'all uh..relax about this North Korea. Just...uh... take the 'E' out of Korean, and uh...you got Koran, uh, right? Uh, then, uh....you're talking about a Muslim nation...uh...a big one...uh... exceeded only by the United...uh...States."



Well...makes as much sense as anything else he's saying about North Korea doesn't it?

Well, that's what the president said.

Hey President Obama, look in the mirror. You're breaking the rules too. Like the rule of law. Chrysler bankruptcy. Secured creditors. Favorable treatment to dealerships friendly to the current administration. And the list goes on and on...

stop! or i shall say "stop!" again!

This is one time when I feel sorry for Obama, he couldn't have made this situation any worse but he'll not be able to make it any better. This NK nutjob could probably be diagnosed with a mental disorder. I'm not sure if even China could reign him in. Hopefully they will try. He WANTS to use a nuke so bad he can taste it. We probably will have a nuclear incident sometime this year. jmo