Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

John F. Kennedy
Washington, D.C.
January 20, 1961


It’s not productive, given the history of U.S.-Iranian relations, to be seen as meddling, the U.S. president meddling in Iranian elections…


PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA June 2009

If you're so upset about Ivan's comments, WHY THE F--K ARE YOU WRITING ABOUT IT?

Try moderating that Relevance Seeker

was the language of Iran? But all of the protest signs are written in English not Farsi! I wonder why? Hyperbole aside, the election legit or not is the business of Iran and Iranians not the West. Of course I wonder if the West would actually be so damned interested in Iranian democracy if Iran was an oil poor country rather than the other way around?

Yes it does leave a trace. That is what the paper is saying. They found the traces, but it is a different type of thermite. It is a defense department contract that makes this type. It is not just your run of the mill stuff and that is why the chips were decided to be either paint or flame retardant coating that shook loose. It is my experience that neither paint nor flame retardant explodes when introduced to heat. You're the expert apparently. You tell me.

Well you are wrong about all points. This information will be mainstream very soon. A new investigation is being launched by over 700 architects, engineers, and forensic scientists. They are not troofers. They are just like me. They don't believe the official story and they have evidence. The paper I presented is real and about 14-15 million people have now viewed it. It is getting more coverage in Europe than in the States for OBVIOUS reasons.

Well to you guys I am nuts. It is all a matter of how you look at it. I will agree with you that we walk a fine line here. I mean I can see how bad it would be if we found out that it was an "inside job" as some people put it. The problem we face is that there is now substantial evidence that proves there was nano-thermite, a defense department labratory grade incendiary, in the rubble. It was first written off as paint chips or flame retardant coating. That is why we have the story we have and that is why it makes no sense.

Listen...I know why it is difficult to accept what I am proposing. I voted for Bush 2 times. I really did. I believed all the rhetoric and propaganda flowing out of the White House for 8 years. I argued Republican talking points to no end and despite what many of you may question I am a Conservative.

I am not crazy. I just like the truth no matter the consequence. I understand the consequences of what I am saying to you guys. I also understand that many of you are tired of me coming on here and talking about controversial subjects.

Earlier I was just making the point that this whole Iran election fraud thing is just a conspiracy. That is all. You guys seem to believe that Ahmedinejad lost the election. He may have lost who knows? One thing I do know is that since he poses a threat to the US with his nut job policies we will always side with his opposition. That makes perfect sense, but to say that the election was fixed is just a conspiracy with no proof.

I was making a point that even though I have a scientific paper that proves there were explosives in the WTC people refuse to believe me because someone on the mainstream media told them to demonize and shut down people with alternative ideas about what happened on 9/11. That is wrong and I cannot believe I live in a country that supports suppressing information that can lead to the truth about one of the most horrific acts of terrorism the world has ever seen. The good news is that soon the people behind the paper will be launching an official investigation and will bring this information to the mainstream media. I am 100% certain this paper is factual based on the evidence presented. I know what this information implies, but the truth must be known. If Bush administration officials have to be called in so be it. It doesn’t matter who goes down for this. Only the truth matters. If we don’t restore the rule of law in this country then we don’t have a country anymore and we might as well just let them steal every last cent from us…oh nevermind they already did…

Dude, I'm with you on Bilderberg. However, you're really reaching now with these assumptions. I've done the research myself over Building #7 and the thermite claims. The reality is, it's still speculation and not proven. Let's stick with a subject we know to be truth, like the Federal Reserve being the biggest scam on America.

Our own politicians have not been listening or representing the people that elected them so decades. Are we out in the streets? No.

Is there any difference between Ahmadinajad and Mousavi? Not really.

We should stay out of their issues and worry about our own. Get out in our streets and raise a little hell!

If Iran asks for our help to calm the violence that's one thing. Until then, it's not like the Iranians are fighting for a completely new form of government. It's more like Obama voters and McCain voters doing bitchslaps to eachother....

When he gave his supposed "speech" to the Iranian people. They obviously took Obozo's message too literally. Silly Iranians, to actually think that Prezbo would stand up for things like free and fair elections, etc. Things a U.S. president normally does.

And we wonder why the US is hated around the world? The current administration no longer stands up for the ideals and messages delivered in a speech only weeks ago?

So much for hopey and changey. Not only has the U.S. population been duped, now the Iranians have been equally duped by this farce of a president.

Neal,

If Obama comes out in support of the opposition, the clerics will use this to discredit the opposition as American stooges. That's why France is taking the lead in condemning the election results, and I'm sure the Western leaders agreed to this strategy from the get go. But of course you already knew that already.

Anything to slam Obama, no matter how intellectually dishonest.

the reason osamabama was slow on the uptake was communications were kinda slow 'tween the mule-a's and the marxist muslim in public housing.

he had to do those 'xtra prayers.....'member.

molten metal flowing out of WTC buildings???? was it structural steel or all the other junk that goes into an office building?

sorry ivan you lost me friday when you said you had the answer and knew names.....(kennedy shooting and the link to todays proplems).

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worked up over this. This election was one islamic extremist kook vs. another. Kinda like alien vs. predator, there is no 'better" candidate. This internal unrest is good because it'll keep those terrorist sob's tied up and keep them from killing innocents elsewhere.

People are dying, cities pillaged and burned, and the pretender tells them if they don't behave, he will have to ... oh I am sorry, he already nicely told them that he would change the United States into a socialistic/communistic country if only they would mend their ways.

Hasn't he gotten the clue they patronize him to his face and as soon as he walks away, shoot him the bird and laugh? How proud are those that voted for this guy?

Everyone thinks the Amadinejad needs to get the hook. He's just a puppet of the Mullah's who run the regime. This is the beginning of their decline that has been in the works for decades. I'm no fan of Obama but I think he's handled his responses well. The US is not in a position to make threats. Any strong or volatile statements from the US will be used as propaganda. So far his measured responses have been pretty good IMO.

...so I can understand why a less involved tone from Chairman Teleprompter. America is not the world's police, as the economy is so desparately trying to tell us these days. Iran is half a world away. I could understand Iran's neighbors however being more concerned over the situation since it might affect their stability. It sounds as though Iranians(particularly the young ones) want some type of normalcy from their govt, rather than the oppression they have now. America can help water the seeds of liberty in that country by doing trade with them and setting examples of personal liberty and free market captilism and the exchange of ideas.

I am saying that someone put nano-thermite into the buildings earlier in the year perhaps during scheduled maintenance of some kind. Interestingly enough the WTC towers went through an elevator modernization of some kind about 9 months prior. Securacom would have had to allowed the technicians access to the inner structure of the buildings. I can't say for sure this is when it happened, but it could have. And you ask for a motive? What if the United States government wanted to pass some radical new legislation (Patriot Act which was actually proposed BEFORE 9/11) and perhaps try to push toward a New World Order where the IMF controlled all money and international commerce as well as dictate international policy? That is motive enough to do something like this. Haven't you heard all the rumblings about the death of the dollar and all the countries everywhere talking about how weak the US economy is? What if this was by design and the only way they could get it done was by flying planes into a building and ruining the US economy by creating a completely unneeded stimulus/tarp program to help the Federal Government gobble up banks and companies and force other large companies out of the country by imposing new tyranical fascist taxes on them. Yeah sound nuts? Not to me. This would have been extremely easy to put together with the right resources. The only thing they haven't done yet is impose ICC law on the US. I am sure that Obama is the guy that will make it happen though.

Don't know if you caught it, but yesterday on Meet the Press, Chuck Todd said the Obama team was upset because no one gave Obama credit for the Iranian protests. According to Todd, Obama's team saw Obama's Cairo speech as the beacon that led Iranians to challenge the government's illegal election. Don't know what's worse, the arrogance of Obama's staff for thinking such a thing, or the ignorance of NBC News for accepting such a patently absurd interpretation of events.

>>>>Fires have never in the history of the world brought down a steel framed skyscrapper.<<<<

First off, many experts say that certainly fire can weaken steel. Let's say you are right and it can't, I'm not sure we have a large enough sample to make that a valid conclusion since it is very rare, just like saying that the Vatican has never been blown over by a tornado. Regardless, fire may not have brought a skyscraper down in history, but I don' t recall any skyscraper being hit with a giant airplane at full speed ever in history either.

I'm confused. Let me get this straight: you agree that terrorists flew the planes in the buildings. Are you saying that, once those planes were flown into the buildings, that the miracle working conspirators were able to booby-trap the WTC buildings in mere minutes, within all the rubble and chaos, and bring them down?

Or are you saying that the WTCs were booby trapped before the terrorists flew into them? For what purpose? What's the difference whether you have eeither a) two buildings left standing with giant holes in them after two planes flew into them, or b) two buildings down on the ground after the planes flew into them. Either way, they are acts of war. What, do you think if the buildings didn't come down everyone would've said, "Well, I know the towers have been blasted by two planes, so I think it's not so bad that we need to respond."?

I don't get the motive.

Thank you Rick. You are starting to get it. I believe all this uproar is just simply a ploy to force Iran to have a new election or to oust the Iranian President. That is how our government works. When we disagree with a foreign country we feel like we need to get involved. Screw that. Look what getting involved in Iraq has done to this country. We are now so divided that we all hate each other. I mean we HATE each other. This isn't America anymore. It is something else and it is scary. I know some of you out there feel the same way. This is our government doing this to us. Why do we allow it?

Look I have a really good idea of what took place at the WTC towers based on this new scientific paper...

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

I am not going to try to claim that terrorists had nothing to do with the attacks. I believe they did...however I do believe that "someone" put military grade nano-thermite in the buildings to make sure they came down. There is literally NO WAY in hell that those buildings came down the way they said they did. The steel in the buildings was not weakened by burning jet fuel. That is absolutely nuts and if you believe that you should study up on how these buildings are built. Fires have never in the history of the world brought down a steel framed skyscrapper. I believe that terrorists flew planes into the WTC towers which ignited the nano-thermite which in turn literally liquified the steel framing. There are videos on Youtube that show MOLTEN IRON flowing out of one of the sides of the WTC. That is impossible based on what they told us. ONLY thermite does that. Furthermore first responders saw pools of molten iron and steel in the bases of the buildings. Like I said before ONLY thermite can do this. The best part? Nano-thermite can be turned into a liquid and sprayed on. That explains why these scientists found chips of UNIGNITED nano-thermite in the rubble. Other investigators thought they were just paint chips or fire-proofing material that was shaken loose when the planes hit...NOPE. BS. Yes some of the material was shaken loose, but it wasn't paint or fire-proofing material. It was actually weapons grade lab created nano-thermite in spray on form. Just an FYI on this material...you can ONLY get it for special military purposes. There is absolutely noway in hell that Arabs that live in caves in Afghanistan could get it. PERIOD. Therefore it is my assumption that they had help. I can't tell you for sure who I know was involved, but I can tell you that Marvin Bush, George W's little brother owned a little company called Securacom that ran security for United Airlines AND the WTC towers. Suspect? BIGTIME. Was there ever an investigation? NOPE. Of course not. This is why I DO NOT trust our government anymore. It is because of THIS kind of BS.

where ever, neal. it don't matter. i will believe you. i don't even need to hear an excuse. i believe you. if any body doesn't want war, i'll Patriot Act them. jail is what they need. i believe you.
i'm proud the be a boortz myrmidon. just like boortz is proud to be a republican myrmidon. it goes up and up. i believe you no matter you say

I usually do not approve of anything this president has done because he seems incompetent and indecisive.But...in this case I think stepping back and looking at the situation for a short time is probably better.Although I also believe that he does this out of indecisiveness and incompetence,not because it is a thought out plan.Words of encouragement now are alright,but we should not get involved.

>>>>>We refuse to get upset when there is now physical evidence to proove that the official story of 9/11 is false.<<<

I haven't heard your beliefs on the 9/11 story. Can you elaborate on what you think happened?

Given the tepid and limp response of Prezbo, it seems almost that Prezbo is pissed at the civil disobedients for disrupting the relative status quo of the middle east.

...not to be TOO supportive of the protesters. He is worried... the same thing could happen to HIS regime.

How do we know for sure that the Iranian election was fixed? The answer is that we don't. We are just relying upon our government to give us credible information. Why am I bringing this up? Well recently I have had people tell me they don't believe some of the "conspiracies" I bring up on here. Mine actually have WAYYYY more evidence than this "fixed" Iranian election does. I love how we get behind a conspiracy propagated by our government that has almost no evidence, but we are not willing to get upset over an obvious scam that the government is pulling on the American people with the TARP/Stimulus. BTW it IS a scam. Our money is being stolen and given to banks and corporations. The American people will never see a dime of that money. We refuse to get upset when there is now physical evidence to proove that the official story of 9/11 is false. You know people amaze me sometimes. They claim to be logical thinking people, but they aren't. Think for yourselves. Don't wait on your government to feed you what they want you to hear. That is just stupid.

"The universal rights to assembly and free speech"?

The universe has a constitution and a bill of rights?

What's with liberals trying to tell people that other countries respect the same "rights" America does. Also, America states that our inalienable rights originate from God so that no man can take them away. Iran and many others do not view things this way. "Rights" as Americans know them do not exist in many countries.

For Obama to sit around licking his soft serve saying that America isn't going to interfere in Irans issues but yet trying to cast our "rights" on their country is pretty hypocritical. But that shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. What ever moves everyone toward his fascist utopia.

This is at least the second time this year that France has gotten the drop on us. The first time was when their ship got captured by Somali pirates at about the same time ours did. France staged a rescue and took back their ship while Obama was still sitting on the sidelines. This is getting embarrassing.

"As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away."

Tell that to ABC news.

if what is going on in Iran has anything to do with the Obama's willingness to reach out to Middle Eastern countries.

The protesters are mainly middle and upper-class citizens. They want control back from the hardliners who are hell-bent on producing WMDs.

I wonder if Bush were still president whether the protesters would be protesting or would they allow the hardliners to carry on enriching plutonium to fight the Zionist and prideful American Imperialist (<- that's how they view us).

I didn't vote for Obama and I think his economic policies are disastrous. I know many have criticized him for reaching out to our enemies, but many of our enemies have large numbers of people that disagree with their leadership like we have in the US.

I have to wonder. I also know that if something positive comes out of Obama trying to reach out, he'll never get credit for it from the right.

to the images in Iran. What is happening is an "Iranian Tea Party.' A prelude of things to see in this country, soon?

It's pretty sad when the French show more guts than the US President.