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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Nobody's listening.

SO ... HOW'S ALL THIS CHANGE WORKING OUT FOR YOU?

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Neal Boortz
@ June 19, 2009 9:12 AM Permalink | Comments (78) | TrackBacks (0)

I don't want it to say that I never display any empathy. Fact is, I do. I have empathy up to here [gesturing] for all of those ObamaBots who put so much thought and attention into their vote last year. You know the ones I'm talking about ... the people who swooned and fainted at the very mention of the word "change" and who went to sleep every night with visions of sugar plums and change we can believe in.

I'm trying to build a scorecard. Here's just a few items:

  • Trillions added to our national debt.
  • American is having trouble getting other countries to buy American debt
  • Obama virtually ignores a corrupt election in Iran. We leave it to French President Sarkozy to speak out for the Iranian people wanting a free election.
  • GM and Citigroup now government operations. More to come.
  • The government (Obama) gets to set executive compensation levels.
  • Obama seeking the ability to seize private businesses.
  • Firing inspector generals who uncover corruption involving Obama buddies.
  • Overturning established law to favor unions over secured creditors in GM's bankruptcy.
  • Obama wants to reduce tax deductions for charitable deductions. Government doesn't like competition.
  • The Washington DC voucher system, with a great record of success, slated for elimination while Obama's kids go to private school.
  • Obama says 8% unemployment max. We're nearing 10%
  • Obama moves to raise taxes on the small businesses that create the jobs.
  • North Korea threatening to send a missile toward Hawaii
  • While NK is lobbing missiles, Obama cuts spending in missile defense systems.

Hey .. that's just scratching the surface. How's this "change you can believe in" working out for you? I know. It's tough. You put all of this faith in Barack Obama. He's going to make everything just wonderful. All we need is change. Now you're sitting here trying to figure out just how long you will be able to keep that Obama bumper sticker on your car. After all ... being a sucker is one thing. Advertising to the world that you got suckered by focus group slogans is another.

Working out pretty well, isn't it?

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  • New slogan
    "I hope that you have some change." That is the new Obama slogan, because he has taken all of OUR money, and is now looking to take it from the rest of the world.
    By Reed @ 06/19/09 09:52:17 PMreport abuse
  • don't forget -
    he couldn't even go to a rescue for a dog for his kids! That seems so small, yet it speaks so huge.

    also:
    Obama cannot say anything!
    Well Obama has to keep quiet about the corrupt elections in Iran, with ACORN at the wheel, how do OUR elections look?
    By RickinJAX @ 06/19/09 11:25:39 AM

    I was wondering if I was the only one in the world who felt this way! Nice!
    By khemo @ 06/19/09 08:49:45 PMreport abuse
  • Can someone explain to me........
    Tell me why the phrase "Overturning established law" does not equate to illegally.
    By XBOLTS @ 06/19/09 08:41:58 PMreport abuse
  • To Matt
    Nothing wrong with Ron Paul, but I agree with you about Infowars and the Alex Jones types. Yes he is right about ALOT of what he talks about, but he is incredibly shady and most of his followers are just out there.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 05:57:39 PMreport abuse
  • Change I can believe in.
    Pennies, nickles, dimes, quarters, half-dollars and silver dollars.

    Show me the money.
    By The Charlie Scott @ 06/19/09 05:53:03 PMreport abuse
  • Enough of the conspiracy theories
    So, the problem here is not strictly one of temperature, but how much heat was being pumped into the steel, versus how quickly it could conduct that heat to other areas to cool itself down. If the steel conducts heat away from the fire faster than it is being pumped into the steel, the steel remains rigid. If heat is pumped into the steel faster than it can be conducted away, the temperature of the steel RISES ABOVE THE TEMPERATURE OF THE FIRE, eventually reaching the plastic deformation (softening) temperature. At that point, the steel girders deform, and the rest is purely momemtum (mass times velocity).

    So, get off the bulls**t of the temperatures of the system, and look into the physics. The supporting girders did not need to melt (liquify) to cause the buildings to collapse, they just needed to soften enough to deform and start the collapse.

    No explosives are required, no CIA or FBI involvement, no mysterious conspiracies from the Federal government, nothing.

    Also "overlooked" is the structural integrity of the buildings were compromised. They couldn't support the weight. Also overlooked is the fact that people assume the structure was "pure" steel. It isn't but a steel alloy.....
    By Jeff @ 06/19/09 05:02:12 PMreport abuse
  • WTC -- it was the aliens!
    Revenge for Area 51....

    Our Reptilian Masters ....

    The "Greys" testing out with a NYC "anal probe"

    Jeeze...Occam's Razor, anyone?
    By Loopy @ 06/19/09 04:42:10 PMreport abuse
  • Far Left Nut Jobs
    WOW After reading all these post from the far left wackos I am going to make right turns only until I find a gun store and get me an assault weapon and a couple thousand rounds of ammo while I still can. Some of these people are way out there and in phase 3 of the brain washing mode. When they come for you guns, giv`em the ammo first... LONG LIVE FREEDON
    By Jose @ 06/19/09 04:01:57 PMreport abuse
  • Furthermore
    If in fact nano-thermite was installed inside the buildings elevator shafts and it was ignited buy the planes crashing into it, it would be akin to a giant supermatch igniting inside the elevator shafts the entire lengths of the buildings.

    A perfect storm.
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 03:40:32 PMreport abuse
  • To Eric
    One of the samples was collected from the base of the WTC 10 minutes after they collapsed. There are people all over New York City that have these samples. Are you telling me that you believe that if those people submit their samples and it contains the same red/gray chips you are still going to doubt it? You do realize that they actually ignited unused nano-thermite in their lab right? They found it in the samples. It is impossible that they could even have such a substance in their possession, but they do. I'd love to see someone explain that part away. The sample could have come from under my sofa, but if it had nano-thermite in it I should be asking why. Forget how they got the sample. Ask yourself why they have traces of thermite.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 03:22:22 PMreport abuse
  • Where's Copyignoramous?
    What? I expected to see a post in here by Copyleft proclaiming how this is all wrong and Obama is the best prez eva!!
    By Twistedsaint @ 06/19/09 03:11:01 PMreport abuse
  • Ivan
    Sounds perfectly sensible to me. Yes, jet fuel is actually very difficult to ignite, very similar to diesel fuel. And if it were to ignite, it would burn very slowly and would still have to have a sufficient supply of O2 to remain ignited. In addition, public buildings such as the towers have so much inherent fire protection by design that I doubt even a fire fueled by jet fuel could reach the temps required to heat the size of steel enough to cause failure and collapse. I'm not a structural engineer, however, to cause stuctural steel to reach temperatures enough to cause it to become liquid and maintain enough heat to flow down (how many feet?) to the ground with fire suppression systems engaged and fire retardant materials built into the structure would require something extraordinary to be sure. Let's not forget, that even a burning airplanes heat rises and would only subject the floors above it to damage, mostly smoke. It's hard to maintain a fire without something to burn. Given that, lets suppose the nanothermite evidence was never discovered and tested, does it change the other facts that we already know? What do the designers of the buildings say about the collapse and the molten steel at the bases? Who else can logically explain the collapses?
    It is odd that not much as been said about it....kinda just swept under the carpet so to speak.

    On another note, my girl gets briefed of your information as I present it when I get home. She refers to you as Ivan the Terrible :)
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 03:04:49 PMreport abuse
  • The problem with Ron Paul's supporters
    I've been watching the banter going back and forth about Ron Paul, the WTC, and etc... I've read the Infowars stuff too. The main problem with Ron Paul, the Infowars people and their supporters- They overstate their case! Ron Paul honestly made a lot of good points during the election, but he and his followers go off the deep-end with all of this "US Government-brought-down-the-WTC-because-they-wanted-to-boost-the-military-war-machine-BS".

    That's where you lose my vote, and it is where you will lose many votes. When the only people who have you on their show is the Coast-to-Coast AM folks, you are pretty much religated to being a joke!

    Sorry- not my opinion, just the facts!
    By Matt @ 06/19/09 02:51:56 PMreport abuse
  • To Radioyada
    The funny thing is that I can almost guarantee I am one of the most Conservative posters on here. Just cause I challenge the Bush administration doesn't mean I am not a Conservative. It just means that I will not trust their BS 100% of the time like some.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 02:48:21 PMreport abuse
  • To butt neckid
    What if I told you the Kennedy assassination has EVERYTHING to do with what is going on right now? The best part is that I know exactly why he was killed and I even have a name. Not going there today just cause it feels like this is running its course.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 02:46:17 PMreport abuse
  • To butt neckid
    You know I think it is funny how some people here call me nuts or idiot or whatever witty little snide comment they come up with. I have done the research most shy away from. I have put people on the spot to answer controversial questions. I have gone through the embarrassment of being wrong before. I am not wrong this time. Not about this. Unfortunately for us all that is going on right now and 9/11 as well as little events here and there are only small parts of the overall conspiracy. It goes much deeper than just what we see here and now. I know a little bit of what all this means and where this is heading, but I still have a few questions. You want to know the scary thing that I am starting to uncover? I am starting to understand why the players involved are doing what they are doing and why they are trying to maintain so much secrecy. I am starting to see benefit in not alarming the public. I am also starting to see how the government is actually trying to get conspiracy theorists riled up. For at least a portion of the overall plan they will the REAL crazies amongst us and there are alot of real crazy people that associate with conspiracies. Anyways...I know that sounds cryptic. I just don't know any other way to say it.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 02:35:44 PMreport abuse
  • Bumper Stickers
    When the election was going on, I felt like the people who proudly brandished their Obama/Hope sticker nonsense were merely stupid, but now I feel sorry for them.

    It's a horrible tragedy that America was so excited to place the "First Black American President" that they fell all over themselves to do it, and now we've got this man that they didn't even know, and they're slowly realizing how blind they were.

    Actually MANY ARE NOT SEEING IT AT ALL. I saw this lady at a redlight the other day and she had a photo of Obama on her DASHBOARD and she seemed to be talking to the picture. Of course, she was probably in her 60's . . . so I see that as something completely different. That's another subject alltogether.

    I blame the Republicans because they put forth a weak candidate. A brave soldier? Absolutely. A Patriot? Abso-f-ing-lutely, A man that is able to COUNTER the onslaught of Media Bias like NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF THE PLANET EARTH?? Well, maybe there was no such man available really... John McCain was never going to win. I give him credit for working so hard at it, but there's too damn many stupid people. We've been overcome.

    MY greatest hope for getting rid of this socialist speech-giver?? Well, my money is on Obama to put HIMSELF out of a job... He seems hell-bent on bankrupting the country for some reason that we don't even know.

    Sadly, our American Idol President may just give us exactly what we deserve.
    By Angry Johnny @ 06/19/09 02:03:11 PMreport abuse
  • To JoeShmoe
    I obviously don't quite understand how all the other planes and whatnot fall into place, but the WTC towers falling is quite easy to explain. Securacom was told to allow technicians access to the elevator system which would give them access to the inner steel structures inside the towers (which is on record btw). Little Marvin Bush was not about to tell big brother George no so it went along as planned. The steel guts of the WTC was literally sprayed down with a kind of paint that is made out of nano-thermite and other compounds including some organics. I am sure that alot of investigators probably thought it was paint or fireproofing coating. It wasn't. It was a highly sophisticated form of thermite. When the planes hit the fires ignited the nano-thermite which then burned inside the building literally melting steel creating a flow of molten iron and steel that literally ate the inside of the buildings floor by floor until they collapsed. The organic materials found in the nano-thermite is key cause that would explain why people claimed they heard explosions inside the building. When organic materials are consumed by heat very rapidly they release gas. Anyone that knows anything about gas release knows that we are dealing with a release of pressure. This would account for the explosions heard, but not seen. Like I said before there is a video out there of the WTC that shows burning hot molten iron pouring out the side of one of the towers. That is significant because we know for a fact that jet fuel is not capable of melting the steel frames inside the building. Only thermite can do that with molten iron as a biproduct. You see the general public doesn't have a good working knowledge of chemistry and physics and that is why they can lie to us so blatantly. First responders said they saw huge pools of molten metal in the bottom of the towers. I honestly don't know how the government got away with covering this up. This is actually pretty obvious.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 02:02:52 PMreport abuse
  • As one who voted against Fauxbama
    I have nothing but scorn for those who actually voted for that clown of a president and his ilk.

    Watching things unravel at lightning speed is amusing only to a point--when missiles reach our territory and Fauxbama does nothing about it--that is the point at which my family and I relocate to a safer country until new elections can be held--that is if Fauxbama doesn't suspend elections and declare himself the emperor for life.
    By $mooth Operator @ 06/19/09 02:00:55 PMreport abuse
  • Is it just me...
    ...or does the names Ivan and Red Leader sound like code names for the communist manifesto squawkers?
    By Radioyada @ 06/19/09 01:57:12 PMreport abuse
  • who shot kennedy???????
    ok, here's the straight scoop.

    bush did it!

    sorry I just couldn't resist it. I have way too much time on my hands and mastabaition (don't kritasize my speling) makes me sleepy.

    there are things we po' folks ain't never no how gonna ever know the truth about. why? somebody lied for what ever reason.....

    could some of these mysteries stay secret? you betcha! if the group is small enough. or it is MADE small. is there something going on at area-51? crap I don't know. I'm not so sure it is important to me. if the truth came out I would say "wow" and then move on with my life. does that make me stoopid? nah, just don't really care about things that I have no control over. kinda like the sun is going to burn itself out, oh crap what am I going to do........

    here are a couple of facts.....two buildings were destroyed...... by two airplanes flying into them. what else happened? we may never know, this doesn't mean people should stop looking for answers, but don't 'xpect the truth to jump out from behind the curtain.

    DRIP
    ARM
    PROTECT
    By butt neckid @ 06/19/09 01:51:38 PMreport abuse
  • JoeSchmoe
    Ok. I see what you mean.My mistake. Alright we're cool.
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 01:44:15 PMreport abuse
  • butt neckid
    ivan wearing a tin hat and your wearing an aluminum hat. mines made of cardboard. do you think the government is trying to s l o w m e d o w n ?

    NWO DOESN'T EXIST! NWO DOESN'T EXIST!

    did i say something? where can i get them metal hats?
    By tshirt-doctor.com @ 06/19/09 01:42:29 PMreport abuse
  • To Ivan
    I never said I didn't like him (I've never met the man and never heard of him before this paper). I said that he appears to have nothing else to his name except this paper. He has no history I could find to show that he is a credible scientist. I also call into doubt the evidence. There is NO scientific proof that these samples came from the Twin Towers; as such, the paper is worthless. All we have are claims that it came from the rubble. Give me scientific proof it came from the Twin Towers and I'll be willing to listen. I won't hold my breath though.

    This paper shares quite a bit with 'global warming' papers; shoddy methodology leading to questionable results.

    And that was a nice straw-man argument about conspiracy. I don't care about other conspiracies, and this debate isn't about them either; it's about the Twin Towers and this paper convinces me of nothing. It's too questionable to be trusted.
    By Eric @ 06/19/09 01:35:57 PMreport abuse
  • Ivan
    Nevermind. I just now read the last post...
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 01:28:21 PMreport abuse
  • Ivan
    I read the analysis. Sure does raise some questions......
    What are your thoughts? Who do you think is responsible? How was this material introduced into the scenario? Did it contribute to the destruction?
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 01:13:51 PMreport abuse
  • change sux.........................
    due to the crappy economy I have put 31 fine people out of work, at least for me. I was able to place most of them with other companies (my former competitors). that's why I am here so much lately.

    I am going to impose a RULE on all of you here today, here it is........

    NEVER! NEVER! NEVER! EVER BELIEVE ANYTHING A POLITICIAN SAYS. I have spoken!!!!

    Ivan. I didn't know you wore a tin hat, mine is made of aluminum.......

    if any of you see mushroom clouds on the horizen, don't worry be happy, it's all bush's fault.

    oh crap! gotta go, there might be a liberal in that vw bus and I'm runnin' low on ammo........

    DRIP don't return incumbent politicians
    ARM YOURSELF
    PROTECT YOU AND YOURS
    By butt neckid @ 06/19/09 01:08:52 PMreport abuse
  • To Eric
    So basically you are going to discredit the information because you don't like who gathered it? There are literally metric tons of this dust out there that has not been tampered with that can be used as a sample. The funniest part of your horrid debunk is how these scientists got their hands on defense department lab grade thermite. The only people that should have access to this material is the Department of Defense. Of course all you found were links to conspiracy sites. This is a conspiracy. That doesn't mean it is incorrect. It just means it is a conspiracy. Since when do conspiracies not happen Eric? They happen every single day all over the world. Hell everyone in this country is questioning the results of Iran's election. Isn't that a conspiracy? Oh buts its a conspiracy that you can believe cause it falls in line with your beliefs (built off government propaganda btw). The samples ARE sound. The evidence IS viable. You can call the paper whatever you want, but there is no way you will ever be able to explain how these samples had nano-thermite in them. The tests they performed proved that the material exists in the samples period.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 01:07:53 PMreport abuse
  • Red
    I didn't say you said 'all'. When I originally said 'all' I was being fascetious(sp). Are we good now?
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 01:04:35 PMreport abuse
  • One other one
    You forgot cap and trade...
    By LOLO @ 06/19/09 12:52:48 PMreport abuse
  • Red Leader
    well said.
    By tshirt-doctor.com @ 06/19/09 12:47:51 PMreport abuse
  • So...
    Anyone try reading the paper? I tell you what I love so far about the paper is that the critics of the paper are trying to attack the people who wrote the paper instead of proving the results of the paper are incorrect. There is a reason for this. The paper is correct in its findings. There really was samples of a defense department laboratory grade thermitic material found. More than likely it was introduced into the WTC towers during the "elevator modernization" that was going on about 8-9 months before the towers fell. Securacom allowed the technicians access to the internal structure of the building. Nano-thermite could have been in liquid form and could have been sprayed directly onto the steel framing of the building. Nano-thermite ignites at 430C so the flames from the planes would have been the perfect catalyst. The thermite was burning inside the building for an hour causing pools of molten iron and steel to form at the bases of both towers. There is actually a video out there that shows molten iron pouring our the side of one of the towers. Only thermite can do that. You military guys should know this.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 12:36:23 PMreport abuse
  • To Ivan
    I hate to be one to burst someone's bubble, but I guess it needs to be said. That whole paper is worthless. Why? Because the 'samples' were not collected by the scientists themselves, but by someone who claimed to find them in the rubble of the Twin Towers. That simple fact alone brings the entire paper into doubt (ever hear of the term 'chain of evidence'?).

    I googled the lead author... and all I found were links to conspiracy sites; I found nothing to validate this man's credentials as a scientist (if you have links to other, peer-reviewed papers, I'd appreciate seeing them).

    Sorry. but the very basis of this paper (the four samples) is scientifically unsound. Extremely poor methodology leads to extremely poor papers.

    In other words, this whole paper is simply typical tinhat craziness.
    By Eric @ 06/19/09 12:34:21 PMreport abuse
  • Obamessiah = Lincoln
    If you truly want to see who PrezBo's idol is, read "The Real Lincoln" by Thomas DiLorenzo. It's like an instant replay:
    * Nationalize banks
    * Nationalize businesses
    * Demonize anyone who disagrees with you
    * Censor communications (the lamestream media is doing this for him)
    * Say whatever it takes to lull the masses but do whatever you want

    Watch for:

    * Suspend habeas corpus
    * Using US military to punish those who disagree with his policies
    * Imprison people without any kind of due process
    * Record high taxes to keep government programs expanding and corruption flourishing
    * Special interest to control more and more of Congress
    * And so on and so on...

    After reading the book, I agree that Lincoln was a dictator. PrezBo is rapidly putting himself there.

    IMHO,
    toemoss
    By toemoss @ 06/19/09 12:33:45 PMreport abuse
  • joeSchmo
    Now please indicate where I said its 'all' Bush's fault. Reading and comprehension will help you out in the long run kiddo.
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 12:04:37 PMreport abuse
  • Steve...
    Americans are in fact some of the most generous people on the planet. The American individuals themselves, maybe not so much the American Federal govt. You are correct America gave much to the tsunami disaster, but we must acknowledge the wrong that America is doing also. America has potential to be a great nation once again, and America should export its goodness by examples of free market capitalism, free trade and personal indivual liberties, the things that made this country great that the founders tapped into, not spreading ideas by unneeded force. Do not fall into the soundbyte abyss, I am not 'blaming' America for anything, or saying they 'deserved' anything. This is what fox would have you believe for stepping outside of their mantras and asking meaningful questions. I am only trying to address historical fact and human nature and in order to do that we cannot ignore the west carving unwanted lines in the middle east after world war one, and supporting islamic fascist regimes while at the same time scolding others of the same ilk. We have to dive in to all historic accounts to understand what is going on, since many of those people over there see this as being a very old and complicated problem that did not begin with 9/11. Where as the Americam media and many politicians seem to capitalize on convincing people that 9/11 was the starting point.
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 12:01:24 PMreport abuse
  • What About?
    You forgot about him pulling our troops out of Iraq.
    By Rocket Scientist @ 06/19/09 11:57:00 AMreport abuse
  • To Steve
    Bet you didn't know George and Jeb Bush had another brother did you...Marvin Bush is an interesting fellow. I think the most interesting thing is that he ran a company called Securacom. After 9/11 the company changed its name to Stratesec. After you read the paper I posted go look up Marvin Bush and report back to me and tell you still believe the 9/11 cover story. If you want to know more I am here for you.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:54:39 AMreport abuse
  • To Steve
    No...you HOPE my tinfoil hat is loose. Read the paper. Get informed. Find out why you need to upset. Don't put your blinders on just because you voted for the guy. Hell I did too. It took me a long time to bend my head around the truth. I wish this paper had been around when we were being lied to in the beginning. Now everyone just accepts the cover story as gospel. This paper is just the beginning. More truth will surface. Over 14 million people have viewed this paper now and soon many will demand answers.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:44:08 AMreport abuse
  • Also I don't know if you guys realize this...
    With the new powers just given to the Federal Reserve and these random czars Obama has put in place Congress is now almost useless. This new power given to the Federal Reserve is exactly how the NWO planned it. The IMF and the Federal Reserve now completely control our fragile economy. Don't you hate it when conspiracy people are right? It makes people who have always been cheerleaders for their respective parties look like fools. How does a dose of the truth taste? Are you ready to get on board the truth movement? You want to know what the government fears the most? An informed American. One who will not take their lies and half truths at face value. One that sees through their agenda. That is why Teabaggers are now Right Wing Extremist terrorists. That is why soldiers coming home from abroad are labeled as potential extremists. How dare you stand up to tyranical taxation by a corrupt government. You are wrong for not wanting to be serfs to the New World Order. Why are you resisting them don't you know this is all for your own good?
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:38:08 AMreport abuse
  • Boortz is mischaracterising his audience.
    Neal, you seem to make an assumption that most of your listeners voted for Obama, and then you proceed to condescend to and chastise your audience for it. I think you are doing your audience a disservice when you do this, and you also insult our intelligence. I think it is fair to say that most people who enjoy your show are not of the type that would have voted for Obama. I know some people on the left listen to the show so they can try to discredit it but I don't understand why you would decide to make that rather narrow demographic(as far as your show is concerned) the main focus of your blog.
    By varelse @ 06/19/09 11:33:21 AMreport abuse
  • Obama cannot say anything!
    Well Obama has to keep quiet about the corrupt elections in Iran, with ACORN at the wheel, how do OUR elections look?
    By RickinJAX @ 06/19/09 11:25:39 AMreport abuse
  • God Bless America
    Red Leader, do we deserve any credit for the good we do on a daily basis worldwide? Think tsunami, for example. Or are we to blame for everything that's wrong on the planet and therefore deserve 9-11? How many muslim nations sent aid aid to us after Katrina? Big Africa, we agree more than disagree I think, and I may well come your way in the future rather than continue to vote for people who will not represent me. American Soldier, thank you and your brothers in arms. Oh, and Ivan... I think your tinfoil hat is loose.
    By Steve @ 06/19/09 11:23:35 AMreport abuse
  • okay, look
    Folks, we're all pretty much on the same side here. Ivan, Red, Big, Steve and others, It's great that we can share knowledge and ideas here. And yes, once in awhile someone goes off and says something dumb (like me) for which I have no problem retracting. I appreciate ALL the GOOD information you all provide (with the exception of you know whos'). Ivan, I'm reading the WTC findings now. Haven't got into the meat yet.

    I'll keep my yap shut until I have something constructive to further add.
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 11:22:47 AMreport abuse
  • Also to preempt anyone calling me whatever name...
    Read the damn paper. It is legit and the science is sound. It challenges the official story, but it does so with facts that the official story glossed over. Friends, we were lied to.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:22:05 AMreport abuse
  • To Steve
    Steve, the fact that you actually wouldn't vote for someone because they use the word "occupier" indicates just how much a sheeple you really are. The reality is, we are occupiers. It's a fact that you need to start waking up to. Explain to me why we're still in Germany. I really am on the edge of my seat for this one. Secondly, Ron Paul is a modern day Thomas Jefferson and his ideas and visions are hard for so many sheeple to understand, because you fall into the unipolar power trip that has caused us to be where we are today.
    By LiberalHater @ 06/19/09 11:21:00 AMreport abuse
  • What is so screwed up is...
    that we are trusting our economy to a new administration that will not even reassure us that the rule of law still means something in this country. This document proves that there was nano-thermite in the WTC towers yet there is no new investigation being launched. Please inform yourselves. We must restore the rule of law in this country or we will forever live in tyranny. Call your representatives and tell them you want answers. Tell them you know the truth of what happened on 9/11.

    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:13:12 AMreport abuse
  • to American soldier...
    I appreciate and thank you for your service but Im sorry it does not give you a monopoly on the subject matter. WHY was America attacked?....has it dawned on you that 9/11 was a REACTION to American foreign policy in the region dating back to world war I ? It was not an unprovoked attack, read Michael Scheuer's books. He is the former head of the CIA's bin Laden unit, what I am saying lines up with what he says. Read Chalmers Johnson's book 'Blowback' to see some of what America does in the world that people do not like. So no sir it is your reality that is skewed here on the subject matter, this did NOT begin with 9/11 Im sorry. Again I appreciate your service and what your peers have been/are going through. But if the soldiers are fighting for freedoms then why is it that the federal government(the same entity that sent the soldiers) is working overtime to take individual constitutional freedoms away? And that includes Bush and Obama? And sir it is us, the Ron Paul Republicans who indeed also like the original Jeffersonian recipe.
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 11:08:21 AMreport abuse
  • To Big Africa
    why ron paul didn't do we in prez election.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iW5kOB1pmg
    By tshirt-doctor.com @ 06/19/09 11:07:31 AMreport abuse
  • Well said Red Leader
    What most people do not understand is that if you want the regular every day news on TV and in the paper you are getting either a huge fat lie or a half truth. There is always more to it. The people bankrupting our country own the mainstream media and they even have their hands in talk radio. They all have agendas. Unfortunately none of them believe in telling the whole truth.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 11:04:28 AMreport abuse
  • Red Leader
    ...what Steve said.

    I didn't imply that 'W' was any saint by any stretch, but it's certainly not ALL his fault. Now wash your face and go out and play.
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 10:59:47 AMreport abuse
  • Steve...
    I see where you are coming from, but look it this way if Iranians were over here with guns, trying to get you and I to conform to their way of life, and were building a permanent military base the size of the Vatican on American soil what would Americans call them? Sure 'occupiers' may be a bit strong of a word, but do you really think if Iran was doing that here and maybe trying to get people to follow sahri'a law that people would have a positive view of them? If memory serves me correctly even Reagan warned about getting involed in the anti-logic of middle eastern internal affairs. Those people have a lot to figure out amongst themselves and from the looks of it American troop presence is giving islamic fascists over there a reson to unite.
    By Big Africa @ 06/19/09 10:57:30 AMreport abuse
  • For Katherine and Red Leader
    Somehow you two has lost touch with reality. Those of us that have been sworn to protect and defend the Constitution understand how the current adminiatration is doing things that we have been trying to fight against since the days of our Founding Fathers. If you are going to "hee" over trillians of debt and then conveniently forget that we went to war AFTER we were attacked (and do not give me the "no WMD" crap as we found the evidence {yellow cake, rods, diagrams, etc} the MSM will not report. So laugh it up Katherine while my fellow Soldiers are fighting for your freedoms while the current admin takes away our ability to fight. So for the majority of us in the Military, keep the change (new Coke), we like the Original recipe from the Founding Fathers.
    By American Soldier @ 06/19/09 10:52:46 AMreport abuse
  • To Steve
    Also leave the pathetic talking points at the door. Yes some of them may be vaild, but what you need to realize is that Bush and Obama are puppets to the most wicked people on this planet. Have you been looking around lately? Our leadership has abandoned us. Hell they have declared war on us. We are all terrorists as far as they are concerned. Get out of your right wing funk.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 10:48:37 AMreport abuse
  • Steve don't drink the Kool-aid...
    The Norks tested weapons while Bush was in office. Iran continued with the nuclear program while Bush was in office. It was even found that America was contributing indirectly to Iran's nuke program by means of Russia while Bush was in office, to show you how this foreign aid and intervention nonsense doesn't work for America. Im sticking to what I said because Im right.....Bush ENABLED OBAMA....Obama is bad yes, but we have to come to our senses and see what Bush did. He signed that 700 billion dollar bill, which opened the flood gates for Chairman Teleprompter to do what he is doing.
    Bush gave the Federal Reserve immunity from the court system, it says it in the bill.Let's go ahead wake it up just a little bit yes? Just because the magic box in your living room does not tell you things, doesn't mean they stop existing. There is just no logical way around it.....sorry to break it to you.
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 10:47:30 AMreport abuse
  • To Steve
    Hey Red Leader knows whats up he doesn't need you to treat him like a Lib. Bush was a gawd awful President. Read the paper I posted earlier to find out why.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 10:45:40 AMreport abuse
  • To Katherine
    Yeah, but that is just because there was an agenda in place. The goals of the Obama administration and the Bush administration were one and the same. That was to bankrupt America while lining the pockets of the dirtiest scum on Earth. Countless billions have exchanged hands in the biggest scam this world has ever seen. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan was a money making scheme pure and simple. Further than that the wars were used to take away freedoms from Americans. Hell they even tried to make us feel Patriotic about giving up our freedoms. How sick is that?
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 10:43:44 AMreport abuse
  • Congressional Spending
    How about this plan: All spending on Health Care Reform should be paid for by those who vote for it in Congress. For instance, if 300 members in Congress vote for $900 Billion (scaled well back from the $1.6 Trillion) then each of those Congressmen pay $3 Billion each?

    People should also remember that much of the huge deficits under President Bush were written and passed by a Democrat Congress before being signed by President Bush.
    By Pete @ 06/19/09 10:42:15 AMreport abuse
  • Dear Red Leader
    Umm, since when is 700 billion the same as 10 TRILLION? No Republican ever said they approved of W spending so much, but Obama has spent more than every other president in history combined and you ignore it. As far as the war, it's funny how North Korea and Iran kept their pie-holes shut for 8 years but now they're acting up. Why? Because they feared W but know that Obama won't say "boo" to them. Now go back to watching Star Wars and leave the diescussion to the grown-ups, 'kay?
    By Steve @ 06/19/09 10:33:57 AMreport abuse
  • To Big Africa
    I think that is what annoys Libs and Republicans so much. Ron Paul was right about everything and he really should be President. There is a reason he is not Pres. He would NOT be controlled by the puppet masters. You are ONLY allowed to win Presidential elections if the powers that be know they can control you.

    There is a reason why the fed calls people like Ron Paul and anyone out there that questions them an extremist. It is because the federal government is trying to skirt the Constitution and the REAL patriots of this country wouldn't stand for it. The "conspiracy theorists" were right as well. These people have been talking about the NWO forever. It is now staring us in the face and there are STILL people trying to say it doesn't exist. How dumb can you be? Our politicians are literally calling it by name on a weekly basis. I could pull you literally hundreds of direct sound bytes talking about all this. Our leaders that support globalization are traitors to this country plain and simple. These people are liquidating our country and demonizing Americans. They have called hard working tax paying Americans terrorists. This is insanity. I don't want this change for my children. They will be born into slavery. That is not the America I want to live in.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 10:33:17 AMreport abuse
  • Inspectors General
    "Firing inspector generals who uncover corruption involving Obama buddies."

    Inspectors General.

    (Brought to you by the famous OED consultant. Ask me about "Juneteenth.")
    By Barry Popik @ 06/19/09 10:33:13 AMreport abuse
  • Hee.
    It's so cute when Republicans try to pretend they're "fiscally responsible."
    By Katherine @ 06/19/09 10:25:49 AMreport abuse
  • Re: Those of us...
    Big Africa, you make valid points and I do find myself leaning more Libertarian as the Repubs continue to lose their way. However, I will NEVER vote for someone who calls our troops "occupiers".
    By Steve @ 06/19/09 10:19:38 AMreport abuse
  • More Change
    Please don't forget the Obama Apology Tour, telling the world what terribble things the United States has done throughout history.
    By Eddy Seegers @ 06/19/09 10:19:00 AMreport abuse
  • Hey Joe Schmoe...
    Could you please remind us of who signed the very first 700 billion dollar bailout bill which gives the Federal Reserve basically unlimited powers that Obama is now capitalizing on?

    also who started a war in Iraq and Afghanistan while the country was in massive debt?
    By Red Leader @ 06/19/09 10:16:04 AMreport abuse
  • Those of us....
    ...among the Ron Paul crowd had been trying to warn people about everything you listed for at least a year before the election....(why do you seem surprised Boortz?)what did we get in response? laughter....sometimes even anger towards us. As a black man I received anger from blacks for not voting Obama and was called uncle Tom by whites, simply for supporting Paul.I was called anti-American by neo-cons ironically because wanted to put America and its constitution first. Even yourself Neal simply ignored us and pretended we were crazy. Now we see EVERY last detail of what Ron Paul was talking about unfolding in front of us. We've seen this coming for quite sometime. Paul started talking about this stuff in the 1970s...and we tried to warn people all through the election, but all the neo-cons in the GOP tried to do was make it seem like we were naieve or crazy. They laughed discustingly at the debates when Paul spoke of the constitution and traditional conservatism. Even that nutjob Hannity has admitted now to the possibility of a global currency. The thing is, will Boortz and other big govt conservatives now listen and get Ron Paul types into office in 2010 or are they still buying into this whole 'Patiot Act' garbage? We'll see if people can learn. I think the outlook might be bleak though. Maybe Mccain/Romney types will run in 2010 and I think that will just hand more power to the dems and further America march towards a fascist 3rd world nation. The GOP needs to wake the hell up and figure out why their party is shrinking.They need to start listening to people like Ron Paul,Michael Scheuer, Chalmers Johnson,Thomas Sowell,John Stossel and Gary Johnson.
    By Big Africa @ 06/19/09 10:13:19 AMreport abuse
  • Change
    Don't forget changing contract and bankruptcy law, the latter having been in effect for over 100 years.
    By Ellen @ 06/19/09 10:10:52 AMreport abuse
  • change and how it is working
    Welcome to the world's first 4th world country.
    By George @ 06/19/09 10:04:01 AMreport abuse
  • How about this change...
    If you want to be an agent of change you must first start with the truth. Please download and read through the following material:

    http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/00000002/00000001/7TOCPJ.SGM

    Click the DOWNLOAD link once you get to the page above. You will need Adobe Acrobat to read this paper.

    It should be obvious what this evidence suggests. Please do not close your minds cause that is what allows these people to continue to commit crimes against humanity. If we stop them here and now things can improve. Until then we are destined to fail as a nation. Don't let them decide how this all ends.

    This is the truth the pupper masters do not want you to see. The Bush Administration needs to be questioned in front of the American people concerning the findings in this paper. We the people deserve to know the truth no matter how much it hurts. This is a crucial step we must take to begin to take back our country. The enemies of this country will be weeded out. We must be ready to stand tall and defend our Constitution because it is all we have. We cannot allow our leaders to destroy it any longer.

    Please print this document and show it to anyone and everyone who will listen.
    There is obviously a little more to this than just the paper. If you want to discuss the findings of this paper I will be around to talk.
    By Ivan @ 06/19/09 10:02:14 AMreport abuse
  • don't say that they (Obama voters) weren't warned
    Neal:
    They (the Obama voters) can't say that they weren't warned. You, the Godfather, (cutie pie as you call him) and several others warned the American people that this was coming.

    However, when you and the other talkshow hosts presented your arguments, based in fact by the way, the Obamabots just would not hear it.. almost like the child who starts saying la-la-la-la-la-la to act like they don't hear you when they know that they have lost the argument.
    By A concerned American @ 06/19/09 09:37:32 AMreport abuse
  • I think
    I think 1. This needs to be a monthly topic 2. This needs to be asked to all those who lost their jobs and 3. need to ask Jesse the french fry guy from Miami how he feels about it.
    How about doing a segment where you pull up all those newscasts that interviewed the Obama droolers and ask them if they are better off now?
    By Mark @ 06/19/09 09:35:55 AMreport abuse
  • Change
    People still believe in Obama's 'change.' By next year when things are the same or worse, they will still convince you and themselves that Obama's change IS working, it's just that he hasn't 'gotten around' to their particular situation yet.
    By Shane @ 06/19/09 09:35:46 AMreport abuse
  • Keep it up
    Keep the list going Neal. I wanted to do something similar, but you're smarter than I am, so I'll leave it to you.
    By JR @ 06/19/09 09:33:35 AMreport abuse
  • Healthcare
    You forgot the whole healthcare takeover debacle ... can't wait to see that play out ... Medicare is already cutting people off
    By Big Red Lunchbox @ 06/19/09 09:31:50 AMreport abuse
  • But, but, but
    it's ALL George W's fault, right?
    By JoeShmoe @ 06/19/09 09:29:17 AMreport abuse
  • Change
    Don't forget "no lobbyists in Washington", "no earmarks", "daylighting a bill for 10 days before signing", "most transparent administration ever", "no new taxes on people making under $250K", blah blah blah. Has this a-hole said anything true so far? More importantly, do any of his follows care about his lies?
    By Steve @ 06/19/09 09:26:45 AMreport abuse
  • Apology
    For ALL you 52ers...

    You OWE the rest of us an APOLOGY!
    By DaleinNJ @ 06/19/09 09:25:54 AMreport abuse
  • CHANGE
    Yeah, but....but......HE'S SO COOL!!
    DID YOU SEE HIM KILL THAT FLY??
    By Randy @ 06/19/09 09:24:37 AMreport abuse
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