It appears some loons still think these combatants on foreign soil fall under the Geneva Conventions. I seriously doubt any of these have bothered to read the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions cover uniformed military persons engaged in war.

Giving these individuals rights and Mirandizing them is about the dumbest thing I have heard of.

Of course, we elected a person to the Presidency that had NO, I repeat, NO EXECTIVE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPERIENCE. Just think about the intelligence of people voting in the last election. They have the intelligence of those who did not know that the analog TV broadcast were going to end on Friday. Yet, they can go out and vote.

The rest is yet to come. Just wait until people with this thought process is in charge of your medical care.

Not quite right there Mr. Boortz =

The correct phrase is "illegal enemy combatant."

The Geneva Conventions, like the Hague Conventions before them, defined illegal combatants
as those who are not in organized units, do not wear uniforms, do not carry weapons openly,
and hide among the civilian populations.

Illegal enemy combatants were excluded from the protections of those Conventions, and under the
Law of War, could be summarily tried before military tribunals and executed.

This is not a trivial distinction. An "enemy combatant" is a mere ordinary soldier in the enemy’s army.
When captured, he is held for the duration, and released when the war is over.

None is charged with crimes(excepting war crimes). None is entitled to lawyers nor is one subject to civil
or criminal trials, like the captured German soldiers held in the U.S. during WW II.

is a little mis-leading and implies the policy is longstanding and has not changed. However, from the orignial report; "according to the Congressman Mike Rogers, a former FBI special agent and US Army officer who currently sits on the House Intelligence Committee, was told by Agents in the field that they have been told to Mirandize some high-value detainees. These officials also told Rogers that the International Red Cross has been advising detainees to take advantage of their new Miranda rights by getting a lawyer. And in at least one instance, a high-level detainee has taken that advice and requested a lawyer. So despite claims from Justice officials in Washington that there has been "no change in policy," several of the individuals responsible for conducting interrogations of detainees believe that there has been."

There is only one known instance of the Bush Admin doing so; Aafia Siddiqui, a female married to one of KSM's nephews. She was being detainned by the Afghan Police for suspicious behavior; not in US custody at the time and not an identified enemy combatant. The FBI and two soldiers went there to interrogate her, presumably for intell not a criminal case. Prior to the interview, and without the knowledge of the Agents knowing she was being concealed behind a curtain in the room without any restraints, she was able to grab a soldiers M4 and shoot at them. She was read her rights after the fact, and although speculative, probably after she was denied being sent to Bagram or GTMO (imagine how the so-called human rights groups and MSM would report about a female at one of those places). She was subsequently investigated and brought the US to stand trial.

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2008/August/08-nsd-687.html

Put them all in a plane and fly them back to the wherever they are from...when the plane is half way there open the door and tell them to get out...they are free. problem solved.

Our nation was founded as a nation of laws, and our laws (not rights, laws) extend to citizens and non-citizens alike, so long as they are within our territory or jurisdiction. Terrorists are not military combatants, and we're technically not at war. What terrorists are, are captured criminals, or accomplices to criminals which we intend to capture to bring to justice. Do you think we would actually catch Bin Laden and put him in a cell and just question him? No, we'll bring him to the US, try him, and execute him. Otherwise, our justice system holds no moral importance to the rest of humanity. Giving these people Miranda rights who have been detained without due process for years at a time in some cases, will not endanger anyone, and trying them will not endanger anyone. If you're so confident in their guilt, the Military should be able to present a pretty clean-cut case as to their guilt, and if they can't, then who are we, the dumb-masses, to determine their guilt without evidence?

We’ve tried terrorists before, we’ve got them locked up for life, and I’m still not scared.

From one of my posts earlier this week:

U.S. Constitution, Amendment 14: Section 1
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1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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This amendment was drafted to lay out Citizen's rights. However, the language seems to be carefully selected to prevent the Amendment from limiting rights to non-citizens, by using the word "person" instead of Citizen. Reading this Amendment, it appears as though the Constitution grants equal protection under the law to citizens and non-citizens alike.

Hussein in co. ridiculed her for suggesting they would do this very thing, and here they are doing it.

The left grants to terrorist illegal combatants rights and access to courts they deny our troops. If their intentions were honorable they would have insisted the guilty US defendants at Abu Ghraib, and the innocent defendants at Haditha get them, but they didn’t.

Combatants, legal and illegal, are subject to military law. Anyone caught with a weapon in a combat zone is a combatant. Anyone caught there with a weapon and out of uniform is an illegal combatant.

Those talking of “enlightened ideals of our founding,” and what separates us from the terrorists should learn what those American ideals are before they demonstrate their ignorance of them. President Bush and the USA followed the US Constitution. The Constitution empowers Congress to, “To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations.” They set up the UCMJ to do that and “To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces,” using military tribunals for serious violations, which are also bound by treaties we are party to, like the Geneva Conventions. We don’t have to be in a declared war, or even a belligerent in hostilities to enforce the laws of piracy and war violated in the presence of our troops. Waging war against the USA, legally or illegally, isn’t a criminal or civil act, it’s a martial act. As in WWII, that’s true wherever it’s done, even on US soil by a US citizen.

Ivan, thermite would burn down faster than out, and 4 tons of it would be impossible to conceal, if it could be smuggled in. Anyone on several of the floors beneath it that escaped would have seen it melt through. Besides that, it would be unnecessary.

The aircraft cut through the steel outer walls which were critical to supporting the towers, shredded the interior, and soaked everything with over 80,000 pounds of jet fuel. The wind turned those floors into something similar to a blast furnace which would burn laterally without melting through the floor, and was hot enough to make trapped people jump from those floors. The steel in the building (the load bearing outer skin, and central beams) soaked up carbon then became brittle enough to fail, rather than bend with the pressure from the wind. The collapse was consistent with that kind of failure. There are just too many holes, incalculable variables, and improbabilities to make any of the truther theories credible.

We're not at war? Really? We aren't? Cause I coulda sworn.....

(scratches head)

The terrorists now have rights to remain silent about murder of US citizens, plan their murderous plans in peace and quiet, a right to a court-appointed lawyer, and can now sue under racial profiling statutes. Americans who refuse to be murdered by islamic terrorists now have the right to be ridiculed and publically attacked by their own government.

Wow, now that's change we can believe in.

That Popular Mechanics debunk is hilarious. It glosses over so many facts including the nanothermite. My paper is newer and is backed by roughly 700-750 architects and forensic scientists. The 9/11 Commission lied and Popular Mechanics did a smash up job attempting to cover the tracks of a massive coverup. Read the paper I posted. It proves there were explosives found in the rubble of the WTC. If you believe the "official" story YOU are the loony not I.

I have made sure ya'll are on it. why did I do it? 'cuz then I'll know who the good guys are.......us!

Miranda Rights are for US Citizens! Not some foreign muslim terrorist p.o.s. And finally, I've got even a better idea. Forget about capturing them. Just kill them on the spot when they shoot at our soldiers. Problem solved about "rights" for terrorists abroad (or here for that matter). The cops should have killed that p.o.s. military recruiter murderer. And isn't it funny how the same libtards here who whine about the Constitution issues are always silent when GUN RIGHTS are taken away?

Here's a link to a scientific debunking of you troofer loonies.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

It's a compilation of more than 300 experts and organizations--structural engineers, aviation specialists, air defense personnel--that obliterate the idiotic 9/11 wackjob conspiracy theories. Read and learn.

The greatness of the United States is what seperates us from the terrorists. Summarily executing terrorists is not within the ideals of this country. I want the terrorists tried, I want them convicted, but I want these things with the enlighted ideals of our founding. Indefinetely detaining prisoners is not a way to engratiate the American ideal to the rest of the world.

Why can't we just IMPEACH Obama already? The Democan'ts sure wanted to do it to W for trying to protect this country, why can't we impeach PrezBO for his treasonous actions against it? And, this IS treason - his actions that leave us unprotected from these Islamo-facist goons, his world apology tour, his taking away the ability of our military to do our jobs of protecting this country!

This just has me hacked to no end, he's just endangered me and all my other fellow military men and women. I may have to salute his office as my Commander-In-Chief, but I can sure tell you he has YET to earn the respect of this Soldier!

keep trying............

Think about it. If these guys are brought to trial, you dont want them to get away cause of a technicality. They are just covering there steps so people cant complain about this if it should happen

I agree with Neal, terrorists are enemy combatants and therefore are Prisoners of War and should be treated as such in accordance to the Geneva Convention.
Many citizens of the United States do not receive proper Miranda warnings when arrested. It is not surprising the government would protect the rights of enemy combatants over its citizens.

Are the comments not getting updated throughout the day? I checked the comments for yesterday a few times and they didn't update until last night late. I was very curious because I posted a link to a scientific paper that had proof that explosives were found in the WTC towers. I was curious as to why this paper is not getting any press except on a couple local news stations.

Just shoot 'em anyway?

Like that guy Boumedine? Seven years of his life we took away, when Bosnian courts had already found him innocent.

They're not "Islamic goons." They're SUSPECTED terrorists. The government could declare YOU a "suspected terrorist" and throw you in a torture cell indefinitely, at any given moment.

That's really the level of freedom you want this country to have? Then quit calling yourself a damn libertarian.

from the Daily Standard:

There is at least one instance in which we know that a high-level detainee was Mirandized during the Bush administration. It concerns the case of Aafia Siddiqui. Siddiqui, a female, is married to Khalid Sheikh Mohammad's nephew. While waiting to be interrogated by FBI officials in Afghanistan, she grabbed the rifle of a US Army warrant officer and attempted to shoot and kill her captors. It was after this crime that she was read her Miranda rights. The Bush Justice Department fact sheet on Siddiqui and her case is here. So she was not read her rights after her initial detention, but only after she committed a subsequent crime (attempted murder) at the US detention facility.

this is great. if the U.S. Constitution applies in Afghanistan and Iraq it applies everywhere. i can't wait for Mr. Obama to demand Second Amendment rights for the citizens of Australia and the U.K.. but i shan't hold my breath.

Or so I have been led to believe. Why are FBI agents over seas anyway?
In this case, I hope our soldiers get to the terrorists first and give em the only rights they deserve, judgment dispensed at the end of a rifle barrel.

Thanks for being the first to say it. I've told friends all along that combatants in civilian clothes can be executed. We did it all the time in WWII. Now, we bring them to US shores and grant them Miranda rights? This country is doomed.

Given today's definition of terrorism, do you believe that the British in 1776 would have considered America's founding fathers to be terrorists?

I have a feeling fewer Al Qaeda and Taliban will be taken prisoner because of this. Maybe the temptation to simply not take prisoners will be too much. Can you blame anyone for not wanting to comply? "Oh, look, he tried to run!" Not a slam on our soldiers, just an honest, heartfelt opinion. Of course, I'm sure if we just reach out to these poor freedom fighters and try to understand their frustration, we could all be singing 'Kumbayah' and roasting hot dogs with them. Maybe exchange seasons greetings over the Holidays...

This administration REALLY needs a copy of the US Constitution and a big fat clue. I hope the sheeple are happy with their new POTUS.

We are going to give rights to individuals that are not part of an organized Army, that will use any and all under-handed tactics to kill our troops, that have no honor whatsoever and by all intents and purposes want our very way of life destroyed in favor of Radical Islam? And we are opening the door and laying down the red carpet for them to do so?!?!?!?! Incredible!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlgbqQuR3-4

'Nuff said...