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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Nobody's listening.

HERE IT COMES

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Neal Boortz
@ June 9, 2009 8:36 AM
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Last week, Obama announced that he was appointing a pay czar. Well .. he isn't going to exactly call this character a "Pay Czar," the official title will be "Special Master for Compensation. This is the guy who will be in charge of making sure that executives at evil financial institutions wouldn't make too much money At least, that is what we expected a pay czar to do. We are finally starting to get a better idea of what exactly the Obama administration had in mind. We will supposedly get all the details sometime this week. But here's a start ...

Any bank or corporation that has received two rounds of bailout money will be forced to submit changes in executive pay to be approved by the government pay czar, Kenneth Feinberg. Those would be companies like Citigroup, Bank of America, AIG, General Motors and its finance arm, GMAC.

Now do you really think that these pay restrictions will only apply to the institutions who have received two rounds of bailout funds? You're kidding me, right? Once the standards are set you can bet that the businesses and financial institutions will be under tremendous pressure to follow suit. This will apply to financial companies, US operations of foreign banks, and other private hedge fund companies and private equity firms. Even companies that repay the TARP funds in full will not escape oversight on their compensation structures. We are talking about the government setting the standards for an entire industry to make them more fair and comparable to other industries.

The principles currently being drafted by the Treasury Department will apparently allow regulators to tell banks when they need to change their compensation arrangements if the government feels it would "encourage too much risk-taking." What is defined as "too much risk" has yet to be determined. It will be a politically motivated government-style definition, though, and you can just guess what that will entail.

Here's a nifty little line that appeared in this article from the New York Times. Tell me that it doesn't make you do a double take ... to think that we once lived in a time when private companies like banks had the luxury of setting their own compensation levels! Here's the quote: "In the past, banks had free rein to determine the base salary and bonuses they awarded their employees." OMG! Can you believe that? Can you actually believe that there was a time in this country when private businesses could decide how to compensate their own employees? Just how backward were we? Any government-educated person certainly knows that this is a job for government, not the private sector.

Government setting private sector compensation ... change you can believe in.



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What others are saying

  • Copy
    "The SIZE of government is irrelevant to me."

    Then you are indeed an idiot. And no longer worthy of any response because your mind has become utter mush if you think we can keep growing government without completely collapsing our economy.
  • Explanation for Joyce
    DD's error is in assuming that my complaints regarding Bush were about the size of government; they weren't.

    Thus, no hypocrisy. Obama is making changes to our government in a way I approve of... Bush wasn't. The SIZE of government is irrelevant to me.
  • Too many Czars
    I'll know it's all over when PresBo appoints a Pray Czar!
  • hmmm...
    ...sound familiar??

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facism#Economic_policies
  • Pay king
    "Any bank or corporation that has received two rounds of bailout money..."

    You play with snakes, you get bit. I don't like this one bit, but this is what happens when you take money from the gub'ment.
  • Applicable to Union Pay Too?
    May be Mr. Special Master for Compensation can control the pay of union workers too, and make it REASONABLE and FAIR...relative to their non-unionized counterpart in the respective industry?
  • or what we say
    Abe
  • LOL!
    we do tend to get punchy towards the tailend of our day
  • Pay Czar
    Ok, so who's going to monitor and hopefully cut the salaries the morons in Washington currently have?
  • One more thing
    The world will little note, nor long remember what we post here.

    Just ask Joyce.
  • I feel so egregiously calumniated
    Gee, Mr. (Ms.? Mrs.?) Big Africa, You Honor, Your Majesty, You Alone Are Most High, I have forgotten many things other people will never know.

    I am removing my tongue from my cheek as I type this.
  • Guess what's gonna happen to make up for the revenue shortfall?
    When they cut those salaries they tax for revenue, they'll have drop the income level that gets income tax increases from their already fictional $250K, to around $30-40K to make up the difference, or rather as much as they can. It's not like hussein has ever been held to his promises before, it would be silly to expect it on this.
  • It's coming, Butt
    It's comin'.
  • So What's the Problem?
    There is absolutely no basis for the statement that these terms will be applied to companies that did not take bailout funds. They are in a completely different relationship with the government. There's no quid-pro-quo.

    Corporate officers who askrd for and accepted taxpayer-funded "bailouts" cannot expect to get that money with no strings attached. I'm not concerned if their compensation is regulated. They should be fired by their shareholders for accepting bailout funds in the first place.

    We aren't talking about rugged individualist entrepreneurs here. We're talking about MBA-holes, scheming byzantine bureaucrats who worship at the shrine of Stalin, the god of all bureaucrats. The shareholders treat their ownership as passive investments. They can't be bothered to keep an eye on what their own execs are up to. These corporate pirates are the very people who are destroying free enterprise. So yeah, if they take government money, they should take it on government terms. And none of that money should go into the pockets of the mediocre clerks who bankrupted their companies in the first place.
  • Red Leader revises history
    I'm no Carter fan but Red Leader revises history and lies when he says Bush started this. He forgets Chrysler bailout and how much money the government got back in capital gains tax revenue as that share of stock rose from $7 to $45 when sold to Benz. I'm guessing Red Leader was behind Ron Paul's fake poll numbers on Yahoo last year before every Republican primary?
  • sick and tired???????????????
    can you spell REVOLUTION????
  • Charlie scott
    You DO realize that being black does not automatically mean that you or your ancestors had anything to do with slavery right? Particularly Obama with his family coming from the East Coast of Africa, probably not a single one of his ancestors had anything to do with American slavery as most slaves came from the west coast of Africa. I don't like Obama's policies either but please don't make painfully ignorant blanket statements.
  • Libs on this blog...
    "Paranoia is a hard disease to cure,"

    Yeah, so is liberalism, Copywrong. And for you as one of the mindless masses who calls others paranoid while you and your ilk troll Conservative blogs speaks volumes on your liberal instability and pathetic reasonings. But, we already knew that about you libtards.

    You people ARE destroying this country short order. You make Bush's policies look GOOD in just two years in congress and five months in the White House.
  • President Bush trampling the Constitution for the GWOT, now there's a myth.
    Both FDR and Abraham Lincoln assumed far more Presidential war powers than President Bush did. That's a manufactured outrage for the ignorant.

    Those modern copperheads in the dp had better be glad it wasn't Lincoln they were bucking.
  • Copy response to DD
    YOU told us how much you screamed and hollered about Bush. YOU keep asking where were we during Bush, which proves you weren't listening. So her point still stands.

    Also, are you ignoring the rest of her comment?

    "Now thats it a liberal in office growing goverment at a point that it makes BUSH look like a boy scout, why you can just justify everything and its all good."

    'splain the diff between the 2 would ya
  • To: DD
    "The fact is that you are a hypocrite. You screamed and bi*ched when Bush was growing goverment, so loudly in fact that you couldn't hear many of us joining you."

    Really, DD? How do you know that? This blog changed to a comment-based forum on November 3.

    Now, as it happens, I DID have some complaints about Bush--but "growing the size of government" wasn't one of them. The WAY he was growing it, in violation of our civil liberties, was my chief objection.

    And for any real libertarians, they had the same complaint. But as I recall, they were all pretty quiet about Bush's trampling of the Constitution, because he was doing it "for national security." A lot of so-called libertarians didn't think twice about freedom as long as they felt "safe." Cowards.
  • a goodie just cause I like ya!
    Okay, ya'll will enjoy this:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/youscareme.asp
  • Hey Ben
    Actually, I'd like to know the WHERE too! As in, go where ever that spirit would be...
  • The Master
    Maybe, being black, Obama just wanted a chance to appoint a master. (Do we call him "Massa"?)
  • When Will This Apply to LeBron James
    I think these selfish athletes such as LeBron James as an example should be included under the auspices of this Special Pay Master. I mean these evil athletes need to show that they are patriotic and "share" their money with their less fortunate fans.

    Right-I'm sure this will happen
  • Foxy Rob
    It's WHO is John Galt, not Where.

    And it looks like it might just be Bill Gates. He told the feds if they pull this crap on him he'll take his ball and play someplace else...
  • Comparable Worth
    There will be no end to the role of the Pay Czar and that department will have to look for new disparities by the free market to correct, which will ultimately go back to the old "comparable worth" proposals that teachers and garbage collectors should be paid based upon their "worth to society as determined by a government bureaucrat" rather than supply and demand in the market.

    Watch out, Boortz. The government would say that you're worth about the same thing as a bank manager, which will be about nothing. But, me, I'm looking to join the NBA for their pay scale, if they will take white men in their 50's.
  • Pay Czar doesn't matter....
    Do you really think those that make the rules are smarter than those that have to abide by them? So...an executive has his salary cut. Don't you think he is crafty enough to find a legal way to funnel those funds through a back channel?
    Hhhmmm....I'll hire my wife and children to be consultants and pay them the max allowed. I'll create a shell corporation offshore and hire them to do some consulting as well.
    These dictum never work the way they are intended. One man's mandate is another man's opportunity to make it big.
    One positive factor would be that the execs that receive a bailout will be very motivated to pay it back ASAP. On the other hand, that probably means more layoffs.
  • neal
    you were busy today; i'm impressed
  • wow
    I need to proof read my posts. So many typos.
  • COPY
    The only problem is copy that tend to claim that anyone that soes not go along with OBAMA is a conspiracy nut. The fact is that you my friend are a hypocrite. Yes you read that right. You screamed and bi*ched when Bush was growing goverment, so loudly in fact that you couldn't hear many of us joining you. Now thats it a liberal in office growing goverment at a point that it makes BUSH look like a boy scout, why you can just justify everything and its all good.

    With people like you, its not about whats right, it simply that your party is in charge and you will die before you admit it is screwing up worst then ever!

    AND IT KEEPS GETTING FUNNIER!
  • Here is comes?
    Typo in title. :D
  • no mention of Komrad Bush?
    Let us always remember that all of this began with George W. Bush signing the very first bailout bill which opened the flood gates for the Federal Reserve and the Federal govt(2 separate entities mind you, since the federal reserve is more of a private bank)to be given vast powers with no oversight. To mention Chairman Teleprompter and his want for fascism in this country we logically and automatically MUST mention his enabler, and the man who made Obama possible George W Bush.....Fascism in Ameirca began with Bush, and we must not forget to mention both the Bush and Obama tag team when we see the problems the country is having......they both have the same agenda of govt growth, the only difference is method.just the pure ugly, unarguable truth.
  • Cure The Disease
    Always addressing the SYMPTOMS and not the disease.

    Stop fiat money and fractional banking... watch the salaries go down!
  • Servant not Master
    Hey, Copyleft! You said "the market is a servant, not a master." I think you AND our elected officials need to be reminded that the government is also supposed to be servant and not master.
  • Why isn't this reasonable?
    If I invested in a failing (or profitable) business, then I should have a say in how the company is run. After all I am part-owner. Right now the government is part-owner of these businesses, shouldn't it have a say in how they are ran?
    I have always been 100% against any bailout for any company, but for the government to heavily invest and then to just walk away is incompetent even by government standards.
  • Short Memory Indeed
    It seems that Copyleft has a short memory as well. Price controls and wage freezes have been a disaster for the economy in the past. Just look at that little thing called the Carter Administration to show how that all worked out.
  • Execs pay
    Ok I think Obama is making too much money-and he is not performing-can we cut his pay?? His economic policies are bankrupting our company,so we should use the standards he is using for execs.Since we the people should be the voice, I say we will have to cut his pay since he is using our money for his own bailout. I'm just saying..as Beck likes to say.
  • Yes Joyce,
    Ginsberg is having the SC look at the Chrysler situation, but is this so they can intervene as they should, or so they can put their two cents worth in to back the president?
  • Copyleft's wage and price controls
    "We had wage AND price controls before in our history... they're a good practice for getting rampant, shortsighted corporations under control to help stabilize the economy."

    Yeah, we did that under Nixon, causing shortages of price-controlled products. They were almost universally considered a failure at controlling inflation. Almost, except for Copyleft.

    TANSTAAFL!
  • Pay Czar
    Is he going to oversee Freddie and Fannie too?
  • To Copyleft
    I haven't really ever posted evidence in my posts. No point really. There is far too much evidence to post in the little bit of space provided. I don't think get paranoid on these boards cause I know 95% of the population literally has no clue of how far the corruption goes. It is vast and I honestly do not have the time to cover it all. I know you and a lot of people consider what I have to say as crazy and I used to think exactly the same. The biggest problem with getting to the bottom of the truth is that the people protecting it are not dumb. They work tirelessly to conceal it. They are human though and they make mistakes. Do me a little favor. Just do a tiny tiny bit of research into the Bilderberg group. The information you will find on the surface is strange to say the least. Once you get a little deeper everything...and I do mean EVERYTHING comes into focus. Just an FYI to why I don't get out there and physically get involved in the Bilderberg deal is because dozens of people that have tried have ended up having some sort of horrible accident. Please give it a chance. Even if you don't believe it you will have one hell of a journey tracking down information. The search for truth is something all of us should be involved in.
  • Increasing Health Care Costs
    “You won’t fundamentally solve the problems in business until you solve the problem of spiraling health-care costs,

    which is driving everybody crazy,” he added.

    When I saw this quote (by a liberal in Obama administration, I believe) I thought that someone should identify the

    costs.

    How much does insurance (or health payment/spending plan, as Boortz calls it) cost? If you get a generic family

    plan from Blue Cross I think this is about $1,000 per month or $12,000 a year. This seems like a convenience for

    the families who really should just be buying emergency care.

    I remember Neal mentioning that half of all health care expenditures occur in the last 6 months of a person's

    life. Perhaps we should focus on their being comfortable as they pass even if people pass more quickly.

    People are living longer. As a result, people have more time to get sick and spend more money throughout their

    lives on health care. I believe the vast majority of medical spending is on the elderly, which is a growing

    population. This tends to be expensive care, often funded through the government (Medicare/Medicaid). I see far

    too many people riding in their wheelchair-like scooters when they should probably be getting the exercise of

    walking.

    Also, many people jump to take their children to the doctor when the child has a little sniffle. More people

    currently have health insurance than 20 or 30 years ago. People with health insurance are more likely to go to the

    doctor. This increased demand results in higher prices.

    Fewer doctors are entering the field as family practice physicians. The doctors know that they could specialize

    for a year or two and make much more money. (often twice as much with fewer hours worked) The decrease in supply

    results in higher prices.

    States and Federal Government are now mandating aspects of coverage. This means less specific, tailored health

    insurance. This costs more.

    An increasing portion of the hospitals are not receiving (full) payment for services rendered. I think I remember

    seeing that some hospitals never see payment from 30% or more of their emergency care. (especially from those

    without insurance, credit cards, or accurate contact information) Those who do have money end up paying more as a

    result.

    There are now more lawyers and lawsuits than in the past. Some of these are frivolous and some result in

    outrageous settlements. Even valid lawsuits result in a cost for doctors and medical malpractice insurance,

    driving up the cost for others.
  • When did wage/price controls work?
    "We had wage AND price controls before in our history"

    Yeah...like when they set price controls on gasoline. That really fixed things! I mean...there weren't any sort of long lines because people were topping off their cars, were there?

    Directive 10-289...is it here yet?
  • Who determines the pay at the NY Times?
    Since the New York Times sees to think it is a good idea for a third party to decide the compensation of a privately held company, I volunteer to determine the pay for the NY Times editors.
    Since their paper is a sounding board for liberal nonsense, I decree that the editors shall be paid a compensation package not to exceed $25 per year.
    So there!
  • Pay Czar
    I realize I am the zillionth person to say this, but this is straight out of "Atlas Shrugged". Someone please tell me, where is John Galt?
  • To: Ivan
    Ivan, in all seriousness, I've read your conspiracy-riddled posts and was not impressed with the "evidence" you presented.

    Paranoia is a hard disease to cure, because anyone who questions it becomes "part of the conspiracy" to the believer. But please try.
  • Unconstitutional
    Supreme Court ruled one time before against government take over of business (Youngstown Steel 1952) and pay restrictions are a violation of due process. So "libertarians outraged is fringe benefit" is just plain stupid thing to say and shows how pathetic some people are for their entertainment.

    Have to take back bad things I've said about Ginsberg, at least she is looking at this Chrysler nonsense.
  • To Copyleft
    I cannot understand why you engage in partisan behavior. I can tell by the way you make your posts that you are not an idiot however the content leads me to believe that you are a sheep. Start seriously investigating the Bilderberg group and the secret organizations that control our government. The partisan positions you take are so completely polarizing that it is almost impossible to hold an kind of back and forth with you.
  • But who's watching the watchers?
    Some people who aren't being paid what they're worth should be very happy about it.

    The corporate board of directors abdicated their responsibility ("the one about acting in the best interests of the shareholders") a while ago. Now, some pencil-pushing bureaucrap is going to take on the responsibility. Lord have mercy.

    The security code for this messages was LMFAO (laughing my fat aspedistra off). Not even close ...
  • Short memory?
    We had wage AND price controls before in our history... they're a good practice for getting rampant, shortsighted corporations under control to help stabilize the economy.

    Plus, they're a good reminder that the market is a servant, not a master.

    The fact that libertardians are outraged by it is just a fringe benefit! (grin)
  • Pay Czar
    President God has been in office less than 5 months, and He is literally attempting a coup of all this nation's major industries and financial institutions.

    If you see a light at the end of this tunnel, be assured, it's probably a train, and President God is the Engineer.
  • Whew...
    I am too burnt out on all this I am about ready to just give up talking about this. There are just too many people that are completely oblivious to what is really going on. The problem here is the standard of living is going down and so is pay. Soon we will have to work just as hard as we ever did just to live worse off. I am starting to hate what this country is becoming. I really really do. If I didn't have a normal 9 to 5 I would be out there doing something about all this. We the people have an obligation to do what is right to stop tyranny. I failed to see just how tyranical Bush was until it was far too late. Obama is just scary.
  • Pay Czar
    High-end headhunters are calling top talent in these companies to recruit them to companies that don't have government pay restrictions. Pick your winners and loosers, folks.
  • New czar
    I'm just waiting for the butt-scratch Czar, so we can have someone tell us when it's appropriate to scratch an itch...
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