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THE EPA ON GLOBAL WARMING

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Neal Boortz
@ May 13, 2009 8:34 AM
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Back in April, the EPA determined that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that poses a threat to public health. Because of this finding, it set into motion a series of regulations under the Clean Air Act.

A White House document confirms that an EPA proposal to regulate gasses blamed for global warming will be costly for factories, small businesses and other institutions. The memo was a compilation of opinions that had been sought before the EPA determined that greenhouse gases pose a threat to public health. The memo states, "Making the decision to regulate carbon dioxide ... for the first time is likely to have serious economic consequences for regulated entities throughout the U.S. economy, including small businesses and small communities."

So there you go. The Obama administration knows that these cap-and-trade proposals and carbon regulations are going to be costly ... and yet it will continue to allow the EPA to act in the name of "global warming."



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  • Jason
    You were certainly NOT spot on and yes you can register as a Libertarian. You need to check your facts and do a little more reseach. If a 3rd party canidate shows up that I can support then I will indeed vote for them. I would rather "throw my vote away" than vote for someone of Obamas caliber. By the way. I voted for Mccain.
  • Dan
    I was spot on with my comment, "You probably vote third party". Can you even register as a Libertarian? They might as well throw your ballot out before you enter the polling location. Yes I did read about Milton Friedman and as Paul Krugman said "government intervention could serve a useful purpose".
  • CO2
    Despite the misguided judges on the Supreme Court stated in their ruling a few years ago Carbon Dioxide is NOT A POLLUTANT!! Carbon Dioxide is a necessary component in life and without it none of us would be alive. Carbon Dioxide makes up .03% of the earth's atmosphere and of the so called greenhouse gasses in our atmosphere carbon dioxide makes up less than 10% of them. The fact is carbon dioxide and its increased concentration in our atmosphere has little to do with global temperature changes. Man made global warming is a complete and utter HOAX!! Climate change, global warming or whatever they try to rename it is a political football moved in an attempt to enslave this nation's population under a elitist political ruling class. Anyone who believes in man made global warming is a pawn who has surrendered their own individuality and humanity to the will of a few politicians. Is that what you really want you leftists? Is that really what equality and the utopia you seek surrendering your individuality, humanity and free will to be controlled and directed by a few arrogant politicians? For all your hate of "big oil" and big corporations ruling the world you seem to put so much faith in "big government" which is far worse than anything you have ever seen or ever will see out of ANY corporation!!
  • CO2 as a pollutant
    Interesting....
    I wonder if those idiots at the EPA will start to regulate the fizz in Coke and Pepsi as it is generated by adding killer carbon dioxide to water. The libs automatically get to kill off fat causing soft drinks. Hallelujah.
  • "I urge anyone who needs a good laugh to check this moonbat site out."

    Danm.. loks like we have to givve up spelcheck for teh grater good aftr al1.
  • Jason
    Well Jason Where do I start. How about My site, well I don't have my ow site. Probally because I am busy working 10 Plus hours a day so that folks like you can realize thier dream of living off those who work for a living. Your analisis of me was completely off though I am a registered Libertarian who hopes to see true change in 2010 when we throw all the bumbs in DC out ESPESIALLY THE LIB DEMOCRATS. I have not been to a tea party but wish I could. Do you of all people have a problem with freedom of expression???? I guess only as long as you approve of thier opinion. I happen to vote for the best qualified person in my opinion and that is why I vote against Obama, I guess when you where there when the greatest president in history served this country (Ronald Reagan )you could never fall for the lies that the liberals put out there in their revisionist history. Yes Obama wants to spread the wealth around but not his, only others. He after all earned his. One more thing before I go. Did you ever check out Milton Friedman like I suggested? I thought Not.

    Man I cant stand river hippies
  • @Jason
    At least you have the appropriate mascot at Concerned Citizens for Communal Prosperity--donkey with a hammer & sickle tattooed on its ass. And I really liked the halo around Obozo's head--like he's your new messiah. OMG, hilarious stuff!
    I urge anyone who needs a good laugh to check this moonbat site out.
  • Let's all
    Sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing" for Jason.

    Positive influence is not making it easier for more and more people to depend on the government.

    But then your "comrade" is taking his orders from others and I don't mean the voters.

    You are going to be a very disappointed young man. I'm guess you are MAYBE 23?
  • can't breath
    ok folks let's all take a deep breath and calm down. oh crap too much co2 i'm getting light headed ahhhhhh.......

    whew made it! here it is, humans DO have an effect upon the earth and this is a true statement, just look around you. are we powerful enough to raise or lower temperatures? only by the most miniscule amount. if you consider what the mass of the earth is (66 sextillion tons) that's 27 zeros, i may be off by a cuppla billion tons but who's counting. now imagine building a bon fire. oh crap we ran out of burnable materials, better import some from mars, oh crap they don't have any... so how are we gunna heat this place? i can't find enough freon to cool it either, oh crap freon is banned. so just by building a house or BREATHING we have effected the planet however, no one should worry.

    you folks out there with advanced degrees in injinearing could add some sense to this post by discribing the btu's required to raise the temperature of the air around the earth. that's a BIG job. we could hire acorn to take the measurements of the air....but could we trust them?

    here's what we should do.....stop worrying about crap you have no control over ie; heating/cooling of the planet, stoopidity and work on the things we do have control over, like...........oh crap let the gubmint do it.....
  • Dan
    Hey thanks for dropping by the site, since you are such a critic where is your site? I would love to see what you are doing to make a positive influence on others. Probably still crying at TEA parties and gathering with 10 of your closets friends and waiting for the Government to send you your unemployment checks because the factory closed. You probably vote third party also because you are an idealist who can't act and you would rather vote for the Libertarian than against the guy who won. Socialism is the answer, Obama himself said that he thinks that it is good when the wealth is spread around a little, which is the same thing as your stimulus check that ran out to spend.

    http://www.CommunalProsperity.net
  • Burley
    You hit it there!

    "It's all about their desire to rule. This type of greed exists in ALL political groups."
  • CO2
    To MikeS and the rest of you who think there is ANY truth to the theory of man-made global warming due to industrial C02 output increasing the amount of "greenhouse gases" in the atmoshpere:
    The earth itself is the LARGEST producer of CO2! Anyone hear of Lake NYOS??? Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos
    but after you read that, Google it! The problem with people who want the government to do something is not that they have their facts confused. The problem is that they don't care about facts! They will lie in order to gain power! Showing facts to people who have been twisted in their hearts and minds by resentment and pain is never going to make a difference. This WHOLE thing is a heart issue. It's got nothing to do with science. Nothing at all. It's all about their desire to rule. This type of greed exists in ALL political groups.
  • Jason Sanborn
    you are just un-educated. the cap-and-trade is what the businesses want. that way they can keep polluting their enviroment.

    don't fall for their line of BS

    http://blip.tv/file/1004193/
  • CO 2 is good
    It boils down to three simple facts: 1) Carbon Dioxide is a necessary component of photosynthesis, the process by which all green plants, also known as FOOD, can live. 2) Presidential candidate Obama said, in as many words, that under a cap-and trade system, "energy costs would necessarily SKYROCKET". 3)Jason is a retard.
  • Jason
    You have no idea what you're talking about do you?
  • Jeff...
    You could always pull the trigger when the muzzle is against your head?!?!

    :p
  • Suvival vs Profit?
    Copyleft.....just wait until all potential for profit is gone. Then see how long you survive.
  • RE: Making a positive diffrence
    Hey Jason, I checked out the site.........Pretty lame. Looks like a 5 year old put it together. Do you really think socialism is the answer? Do your self a favor and look up some old stuff that Milton Friedman has out there, that is if you REALLY do have an open mind. But hey, I don't really expect that you would.

    Man I can't stand river hippies.
  • Did anyone see...
    Owl Gore get COMPLETELY destroyed recently in hearings on global warming? It was absolutely hilarious seeing him try to backup his claims on global warming. I am so glad that LEGIT scientists (not on NWO payroll) are starting to unravel the lies of the left and the NWO. Yes pollution is a problem, but CO2 IS NOT a problem and humans are not causing the planet to warm. That is complete craziness on a scale I cannot even begin to explain. It is actually pretty arrogant of us to even think that we can negatively effect our weather and climate simply by producing CO2. Climatologists from NASA have actually gone on record saying that it would take a civilization that is at least a million years ahead of us to create technology even capable of changing the climate. There is no way we are doing it by accident now. Global warming is simply a scare tactic being used by the NWO so that they can eventually levy additional taxes to support this grand new one world government and one world economy they are ironing out RIGHT NOW for us. It is all connected people.
  • Overpopulation and Greed
    First off there is no overpopulation. If it's crowded where you live, then move. If not why don't you set the example of your own words and leave the planet first. Not to mention you can fit the entire worlds population inside the city limits of Jacksonville, FL with each person having 4 sq ft.

    As for "greedy" corporations, would that be any business making a profit? And because we are Jason we MUST take more money from them because it isn't fair to people like you who can't sustain wealth because you are so envy of it? People should be careful what they tell their subconcious of what is good and what is bad because your subconcious will never let you have anything that you perceive as being bad.
  • Jeff
    The Progressives are based on eugenics so they would love to reduce the population. Universal health care could do this if it refuses to treat older people or what they consider "unhealthy (worth)".

    Careful what you wish for!
  • Jason
    Do your part to end global warming...stop breathing!
  • Cap and trade
    I don't want my electric or gas bills to double just to make Al Gore richer. The real problem is overpopulation...is there any way to cap this?
  • White House Gas
    EPA needs to regulate all that gas coming out of the White House.
  • Making a Positive Difference
    For too long greedy corporations have been allowed to polltue our enviroment without restriction. Reducing Carbon Dioxide is essential to making a positive future for the enviroment. Carbon Dioxide emissions for too long have gone unregulated. We MUST cap them and trade for offsets.

    http://www.CommunalProsperity.net
  • Earth's History
    See, I've been avoiding this thread all day cause I KNEW there would be idiocy.

    The Earth has gone through many "Climate Changes" in it's history, with or without humans. It just doesn't care about us, if we get out of hand it'll just make us "extinct" by turning into a snowball or a worldwide desert. Both of which have occurred before.

    CO2 levels is one of those things that has gone up, and has gone down. Long before we got here. Our levels right now are nothing compared to what they were several times before.

    But we'll spend trillions of dollars and create one job for every two that are lost. Great progress.
  • Volcanos
    Who's going to tax the volcanos that send more "pollutants" into the air in one eruption than mankind has ever produced through the years. Maybe barack wishes he could through biden in for a true Joe vs. the Volcano. All this stuff is nonsense. Anytime the governments states that it has a plan to make things better an alarm should be going off that it will be a bad idea and cost lots of money.
  • Al Gore
    Gore is just mad that he legitimately lost the election so this is his payback. If he is so concerned, he should be donating all his profit to saving the environment. What a bum!

    If he had been able to simply explain why we were all better off economically during the Clinton administration, he would have won. Butttt, he couldn't.

    You go Al! (Man Bear Pig).
  • Sloppy
    I remember the 1970s too. I remember we were on the verge of another Ice Age and it was because of the pollutants from our cars and factories.

    Today we're on the verge of global warming complete with rising sea levels. And guess what? It's caused by our car factory emissions.

    I'm seeing a trend here. There are those who hate oil, coal, and nuclear energy so much they will fabricate a "crisis" to further their agenda.

    And it comes right out of President Obama's play book; Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. This rule goes something like this. The ends always justify the means. It doesn't matter if you have to lie, cheat, steal, or even commit murder. The ends always justify the means.

    Wow, I see a whole lotta that going on.
  • cow farts
    where do i go to file a complaint against cow farts? i also want to sue whoever is in charge of volcanoes. is that the epa?

    more great work by unelected gubmint workers!

    DRIP don't return incumbent politicians.
  • Nothing new here, Neal
    This is just PrezBO's plan to weaken America via the global warming hoax. In implementing this cap and trade tax, he will weaken America's economic clout (to the benefit of our competitors).
  • "What's the problem?"
    The problem, Stan, is this:
    1. There is no real emergency.
    2. Humans could make no real impact on CO2 if we all simultaneously killed ourselves.
    3. Radical measures would economically cripple any country that attemped them.

    Any questions?
  • Climate Change / Global Warming
    I've stated this here before. I am an Earth Science teacher in a government school in rural SW Pennsylvania. I teach my students to be wary of any governmental intervention or regulation of the environment. The EPA classification of carbon dioxide as a pollutant is no exception.

    What is missing here is an answer to a very simple question. So far, in all of the debate over climate change, no one has been able to answer this question. Throughout the history of Planet Earth, the temperature has been warmer than it is now, and it has been cooler than it is now. These changes in temperature have gone on for millions of years without human beings on the planet. So, the question is this: What is the ideal temperature for Planet Earth? Are we certain that the warming or cooling trend that we are currently experiencing isn't part of the natural cycle of temperature changes of the planet? What should Earth's temperature be?

    Until someone can answer this question, the entire argument of climate change/global warming is irrelevant.
  • MikeS
    You didn't look at the summary of peer reviewed research on that link, did you?
  • It will be interesting....
    to see if this pile o' crap is the next target on some states' nullification list.
  • Petition
    "The impact of human activity IS in question, MikeS. There are plenty of scientists who disagree with the theories of Al Gore's 600 scientists."

    You'll forgive me if I put more trust in the weight of evidence than open petitions.

    There are questions about whether feedback mechanisms can diminish the increase in CO2 or the impact of it. But the CO2 increase tracks fossil fuel consumption very well.
  • "global warming"
    Don't you mean climate change? ;-)
  • Wake up People. Global Warming is a Fraud
    CONFESSIONS FROM A FORMER GREENHOUSE SCIENTIST
    David Evans used to be a consultant to the Australian Greenhouse Office. He spent six years with the Australian government building models about the influence of carbon emissions on our atmosphere. This was the Aussie who wrote the carbon accounting model that measures Australia's compliance with the Kyoto Protocol.
    Well .. guess what Dr. Evans is saying today? Since he started working in the office in 1999, "new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming." By the year 2007, the evidence is conclusive: carbon played only a minor role in recent global warming and was not the main cause.
    Dr. Evans put together some basic facts for the public and government officials in regards to global warming. Here is just a taste.
    1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.
    2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming.
    3. The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980).
    4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.
    Keeping that last point in mind, Al Gore still preaches in his movie that the ice cores are the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. Dr. Evans says, "In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest and widely questioned the politician's assertion."
    So instead, what do we get? The world has spent $50 billion on global warming since 1990 and yet there is no evidence that carbon emissions are actually causing global warming! It's a fraud. A fraud to enrich Gore, and a fraud designed to form the basis for repeated attacks on capitalism and free market economies.
  • U.S.E.P.A.
    What are we going to do? What are we going to do? ... some foreign countries' "unprotected CO2 atmosphere" sneaks over here and screws up our "EPA protected atmosphere."
  • Don't foget the Evil Coal Industry
    Anyone remember Obama's campaign when he said he would put the coal industry out of business. Change we can believe in. Before rush in to do any more damage to American economy, can we sit back and research what, if any impact man-made carbon dioxide has. When world wide scientists disagree on this subject, why the rush to push legistlation through now? And why will American taxpayers (as usual) carry this "percieved" burden for the world? This is going to seriously cut into Big Brother's plans for universal "lack of" healthcare.
  • What about the poor plants?
    If we reduce CO2 will we not suffocate the poor little plants? They have feelings you know. We must consider the plants too.
  • There are questions, MikeS
    The impact of human activity IS in question, MikeS. There are plenty of scientists who disagree with the theories of Al Gore's 600 scientists.

    http://www.petitionproject.org/
  • Josh Y
    and planets product CO2 at night, using O2 for their synthesis. It's just fortunate for us that the produce less CO2 then they do O2.
  • EPA
    Um, we've always known reigning in CO2 emissions will cost money. The question is what's the tradeoff. One of the things I hate about modern politics (Obama included) is that people like to act like these questions are 1-dimensional, that there are never any trade-offs. Obama is doing this right now with his blithering abotu green jobs.

    Those of you commenting that "we breath CO2" are just ignorant. Industrial emissions dwarf human emissions. And our emissions from eating food, not burning fossil fuel. The net CO2 emission of human breathing is tiny. The net CO2 of burning fossil fuels it huge.

    bzzt. Try again.

    "Science - the effort to discover and increase human understanding of how reality works. Knowledge in science is gained through research"

    Yes, like the *thousands* of pieces of hard *data* that support the global warming theory. The increase of CO2 in the atmosphere due to human activity is not in question. The opacity of CO2 to infrared light is not in question. This doesn't mean we go Algore on the world -- I prefer conservative/libertarian solutions to idiotic liberal ones. But we can't stick our head in the sand anymore.

    Honestly, the Cult of Global Warming Denialism sounds like the young earth creationists -- and it's no accident that the groups overlap. Deal in ignorance, take facts of context and sometimes just make stuff up.
  • Problem?
    So the ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION agency is helping protect the environment, what is the problem?
  • I voted against Al Gore
    Last week I got to cast my vote against Al Gore, details at www.PatDixon.org
  • Einstein
    You forgot to mention that the plants then,in turn, produce O2 (oxygen, for the gov. educated) which humans breathe in...and the process starts all over again.
  • Whoa...
    This is just another ploy by big government to be able to tax your carbon footprint, now that they have declared CO2 a dangerous gas. Expect a tax bill in the mail any time now.
  • Come on guys the another product of photosynthesis is OXYGEN. We need that to live.

    Look it up.
  • Don't forget the byproduct of photosynthesis is oxygen.

    We kinda need that to live. Look it up.
  • i have no carbon footprint
    because i kill somebody every year. that means as they die it frees me up to exhale all i want. and if i want to exhale more, like playing football, i just kill another.

    Chuck Manson
  • waiting to exhale
    maybe if we all skip breathe, it'll save us money. After all, don't we breathe out carbon dioxide and don't plants need it to survive? Hmm...
  • CO2
    Lets see... Plants take CO2, make food and something else. Hummmm lets see, Oh yes OXYGEN.
  • The Supreme Court is out of bounds
    The article states, "EPA administrator Lisa Jackson responded by saying the EPA's finding in April was required by law, stemming from a 2007 Supreme Court decision that said the agency should classify greenhouse gases as pollutants."

    Can someone explain to me how the Supreme Court has the authority to determine that greenhouse gases are pollutants? Looks like Obama needs to appoint a scientist to the Supreme Court.
  • new name
    Lets just refer to it as "Crap and Trade" from now on
  • Outrageous!
    How DARE they put mere survival ahead of profit? This reminds me of the 1970s, when people refused to think of the COSTS of having clean, breathable air and drinkable water!

    And, as we know, all domestic industry completely collapsed when environmental protections were put into effect. We're DOOMED. DOOMED, I say! (snicker)
  • CO2
    I'm producing carbon dioxide as I sit here a breathe. How long before the government taxes me extra for using up "their" oxygen? The logical end of this thinking is that after you've produced a certain amount of CO2 in your life, you will be required to stop. Naturally, if you belong to some group that votes for the statists, you will get some extra leeway.
  • Global Warming?
    When is the EPA going to figure out that carbon dioxide is not responsible for global warming? While we're on it, when are they going to figure out that the planet is no longer warming, and hasn't been for about 12 or 13 years? I'm so tired of these bureaucrats trying to push this stuff down our throats. We're shivering in May, and they're trying to regulate our exhaling.

    What a bunch!
  • this is assinine!!!
    The EPA has determined that CO2 (that's carbon dioxide for you government school types.) is a greenhouse gas?

    Come on folks. Animals exhale CO2. Plants use CO2 for photosynthesis. (For you government school types, photosynthesis is the process in which plants make food for survival via the use of sunlight.)

    From where do these people come in the EPA that come up with these conclusions?
    As Neal Boortz has said, the government schools have done a fine job of dumbing down a whole generation of Americans.
  • Global Warming is BS
    Science - the effort to discover and increase human understanding of how reality works. Knowledge in science is gained through research... or if your a member of the Obama idiot fan club... Science - the art of making up crap to generate revenue
  • Global warmng & CO2
    I wonder how long it'll be before we are required to wear masks and carry cylinders to collect all the co2 that each any every person on this planet breaths out with every breath.
  • EPA on Global Warming
    If the EPA starts to regulate producers of carbon dioxide, does this mean they will regulate how much people can breathe as we are producers of carbon dioxide?
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