but you still play the preverbial dodge ball game we are all so used to seeing.all they/ we the people want is a straight forward answer.. kill unborn babys is ok waterboarding is not..hmmm they want to blow us up a baby wants to blow his/ her diaper up...all we hear is lip service.. SERVICE..The recent credit card reform bill is another scam/lip service act..make all the laws you want ..if theres no actually appointed office to enforce the laws they are useless..so whom enforces the laws turbo tax timmy??mr wrangel?ohh oh yeah joe biden??get real they are too busy wrighting checks to people whom were deceased 35-40 yrs ago.and probably never assigned a social security card or any social security benefits.FAIRTAX...NOW...

Our founders were never against religion in the public sector. In fact they encouraged it. Read some of the writings of Washington, Jefferson, Franklin...they all advocated prayer. Jefferson believed that the US constitution was divinely inspired. That view today would have him branded as a kook.

The so called separation of church and state was against the foundation of a national religion, not against religion in the public sector. Jefferson was all for religion in the public sector as long as all religions were treated fairly. He is quoted about marveling how 4 denominations could share the county courthouse for services each taking one Sunday per month.

Please read the book "The 5000 Year Leap" by Skousen.

Part 1.

Hey guy’s, why do you think being a Christian is preclusive to intelligent thinking? Remember, the same type of PhD Scientists who “exposed” religion as a myth, have also proudly proclaimed “Man Made Global Climate Change” as a fact.

Remember, were it not for “religion”, the United States of America would not exist. If your belief system prohibits the possibility of one true G_d and Jesus was his “only begotten Son” (John 3:16), then how could you consider asking G_d to “provide guidance” in times such as these as a positive, proactive approach to anything.

I for one KNOW that G_d has provided me with both guidance and assistance throughout my life. I have often ignored his guidance and have suffered the consequences. I see his assistance in my life everyday and gratefully confer all the credit to him. I can personally assure you that prayer does alter the reality of all things in existence. That being said, I also know that I must do my part as well. My part is to provide for my family, stand for the Lords word, follow the commandments, and abide by the laws of this nation. My obligation as an American and a Christian is to oppose passage of laws, which I consider incongruent with the Bible and Constitution, as I know them.

Jesus told us to “love one another, as I have loved you” (John 15:12). I love the disbeliever in a pitiful way, not because I think them ignorant or otherwise. The pitiful love I have for them is because they may never know the comfort of sharing life’s burdens with the creator of all things. They may never look forward to an everlasting life in heaven when their time here is over as I do. That is truly heartbreaking.

Part 2, to follow.

- End the Income Tax
- Repeal the 16th Amendment
- Abolish the IRS
- Audit the Federal Reserve
- Abolish the Federal Reserve
- Return to sound (Gold based) money
- Physically secure our borders
- Deport illegal aliens
- End Government Healthcare
- End Government Welfare
- Defer to State's Rights on Education, Abortion, and other social issues
- Limit the Federal Government to its Constitutional powers of administering criminal justice and defending the national sovereignty

If that sounds like a good plan, can someone please tell me why so many people disregard Ron Paul and like minded politicians?

The event is based on the belief that "The solution to the nation’s problems is found in God – not in the Congress or the White House."
...sorry but the person quoted is wrong on both accounts. God does not care...we are on our own; hence that whole free will thing. God will just be around to pick up the pieces. As far as the Congress or the White House are concerned, they are collectively the crux of the problem.

It's a reply to Lee yesterday, too late to get posted, but the basics hold true here.

I don’t care who you vote for Lee, just don’t kid yourself why.

Most of our laws are based on, or agree with, Judea-Christian religious beliefs, it’s just that you probably happen to agree with laws against murder (or most murder, anyway) and theft.

My opposition to abortion is based on when I believe new life begins, and what constitutes murder. It also happens to be consistent with my belief that when a murderer kills a pregnant woman they are also guilty of the murder of the unborn child.

My opposition to gay marriage is based on the fact that it is not reaffirming right, but granting privilege. I’ve no problem with rights of inheritance and next of kin for gay couples, but I believe those are already covered by current power of attorney and contract law. The fact that even cultures open about homosexuality sanctify marriage as between a man and a woman should tell one there’s more to marriage than what those stuck on this issue are letting on, or probably even realize.

If you think anybody’s individual rights will be protected by the dp, which by their own logic doesn’t believe in individual rights (much less their primacy), you’ll know the truth soon enough once they socialize medicine.

When it comes down to it I wouldn’t deny God for anybody’s comfort or support, politically or personally. On the practical side, the unalienable nature of our individual rights comes from their divine origin, to deny it is to debase them. Doing so also destroys the primary constitutional restraint on Christians or anybody else from imposing a theocracy or socialist state in The USA. Leap, but look deeply and closely before you leap. Otherwise you’ll likely just land somewhere worse.

okay. the repubicans are like stone statues sailing a straw raft in a hurricane or better yet, dumb and dumber.

yes the religious leaders should lead in prayers no problem there. but the statement "WE SHOULD EXPECT BETTER FROM OUR ELECTED 'OFFAL'" is friggin nutz!!!

if you ever 'xpect an elected offal to do to anything better I have some ocean front property here in Tucson I'll sell you at a very high price...

it is time for us to find an HONEST working man/woman that will go to D.C. and do the job as we tell them to do within the constitution. no perks other than a very good salary. one 6 year term then back to their work.

and for those of you that may have trouble with me using OFFAL instead of official rush to your dictionary, or for the gubmint edukated, the big book gramma sits on at thanks givin'

DRIP don't return incumbent politicians

The spoken word to the Lord is a powerful force. Make no mistake brothers.
I voted republican.
Also, I as a christian and voter will continue to pray for our country AND our President to do the right things.
Praise the Lord!

Neal:

I would say that prayer is essential, but also we must work for smaller government, recover things such as the 10th Amendment and issues that Chirstians value. The book of James say "faith without works is dead," so I will work hard with you Neal on the issues we agree with.

... separation of Church and State ...

I was on the cpac website prior to the live simulcast. i watched the chat room for a while. in the few minutes i was there, i saw a conversations about abortion, religion etc... i understand that conservatives can have deep religious beliefs, but when you have a bunch of people speak that are identified as republicans, the 2 get linked. turning off much of the center. (me for example, but i'm not a centrist, i'm a fiscal conservative). until the republicans can shake this polarizing group, they are useless.
all hail the 10th amendment!

The democrat...excuse me, socialist democrat party, has their own religion in global warming, the "less fortunate", and a sludge of other issues. So why not let republicans get more fanatical?

Let their refusal of a solid base destroy them both and lets get a completely different set of parties in there. Five strikes me as a good number.

It was "conservative leaders." The word "Republican" is nowhere in the article. Neither is "Michael Steele." I understand the frustration with the paucity of ideas (I share that frustration), but why criticize a group of "conservative leaders" for urging Americans to pray?

Did any of you, including Boortz, acrually read the article he links? The article never once mentions the Republican Party or any elected official therein. It does mention the Family Research Council, which is a private organization whose membership includes many, many pastors. A couple seconds on Google also shows that the Call2Fall event is primarily promoted on religiously oriented websites as a nondemoninational religious activity. Further, a Google search for "Call2Fall + republican" doesn't return a single hit other than this page!

Turns out, this "insensitive thought" is more accurately described as an "uninformed thought."

The three idealogical pillars of the GOP are limited government, individual liberty, and personal responsibility. Weaken or remove any one of these pillars and the GOP becomes a blander version of the democratic party. We can either pray that the GOP rediscovers its defining reasons for being or just vote Libertarian.

Hmm-wonder why our country is in shambles? We keep telling God that we don't need him.I am not a crazy religious freak ok, but I would guess if my husband or wife kept telling me that (I don't need you),I might Leave as well. While I do agree that we can't just shove Christianity down people's throats, I do believe that those of us who still rely on God need to continue to do so-even when we are met with opposition. We can't sit down and shut up like people want us to.Amazing how this supposed free religion country is all about letting everyone except the Christians have their opinions or even a voice, but if we mention God or Jesus or prayer, we are crucified for it. Kind of know a little of what Jesus went through-kind of, but none of us will know that kind of pain and humiliation because he already went through it for us.I am not saying we are to rely on prayer alone, we have to be active and stand up and do something or else we do look like fools. But, we can not send God away and stop praying just because we may look or sound stupid.As much as the conservatives need to stand up, so do the Christians.

... is for Republicans to be less confrontational and to be more constructive. People don't want to hear a bunch of republicans just saying 'NO!' to the democrats. They want to hear republicans saying 'no, and this is what is a better way'. They need to stop trying to reach to certain groups and just aim to appeal to people who are naturally conservative.

Everyone is besically conservative at the core, but they also want their neighbor to do well too. Republicans need to show how conservative policies will be good for people and their neighbors.

1- Saying 'no' to democrats is not enough. Show people a better way.

2- Stop worrying about enforcing moral beliefs on people. Instead campaign to show people that even though you might not hold the same beliefs in regards to marriage or abortion, that you are going to work to make certain no one will try to make anyones particular beliefs will be supressed.

Doing just those two things could cause a dramatic shift for the republicans in 2010. It won't happen though because they are to concerned about restricting personal freedoms and driven by greed for power that being in Washington gives them.

If they would wake up and realize that most people really don't give a damn that Ralph and Dave the gay couple are spouses they may see a few more votes. After all Ralph's and Dave's personal choices and lifestyle have absolutely ZERO impact on my life. The same is true with abortion. As much as I disagree with it, what another woman does with her body, as terrible as it may be, has no impact on my life.

Time for a new party. The big R's have fallen out of touch with reality, and more importantly the people they represent. The Libertarians don't believe in defending America. The Democrats are a half step from Socialism.

anti-federalist.org

Belief in the Constitution and the essence of 1776 and America as promised in the Declaration of Independence. All men are created equal. Rights are not "granted" by the government, they are protected by the government. Limited Federal government, states rights, power to the people. Check it out Neal, I think you'll like it.

It's the mainstream media, of course they are going to have a headline like that. That's exactly what they want you to think of the Republican party, a bunch of bible-thumpers who think God will solve all our problems. And you Neal, and many of your Libertarian followers, fall for it hook, line and sinker.

Yes, the Republican party is in trouble, and on of the main reasons is because they have let the press and the democrats create the definition of what most people think of the Republicans; racist, sexist, bigots, homophobes, god and guns, and when you take one of these stories and run with it yourself, you are in fact helping them create this false definition of us.

Which is why you're the High Priest. However, others might not agree with you. My son, he of the tattoos and abrupt manner, keeps his personal faith even after two Iraqi tours with the Corps and his current law enforcement service. My thought is most Americans keep their faith to themselves but the overt attacks on their faith are causing more to "get their own back." Since religion is the opiate of the masses as espoused by Marx and held onto tightly by the extreme liberal wing of the democrat party. It seems to me the underlying currents are flowing against the liberals as shown by every day Americans fighting back by publicly announcing their faith more often.

It seems, Neal, you've bought into the media's portrayal of the "Religious Right" going back to the Reagan years.

This is god calling. I am NOT a member of the republican party. You understand that, GOP?

...please protect me from your followers. ...Amen