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WHEN DOES OBAMA WANT THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO STEP IN?

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Neal Boortz
@ March 13, 2009 8:43 AM
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When it comes to our wounded veterans.

Luckily, this plan doesn't seem to have a lot of momentum. But the Obama administration is considering a plan to make veterans pay for treatment of service-related injuries with private insurance.

Senator Patty Murray, a Democrat from Washington, says that the proposal would be "dead on arrival" if it was sent to Congress.

Do you want our government to spend money? Spend it on wounded warriors. Give every one of them a million bucks ... tax free. That would certainly be a better use of our money than funding blueberry research and building butterfly displays.



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What others are saying

  • copyleft
    Don't you love it. The Stock Market has lost 60% of its value since November when Obama was elected. They have four day in positive territory; the recession is over and good times are hear again. That's what the liberal media want us to believe. The truth is the recession was never that bad. It was only being used as an excuse to rip taxpayers off for $3 trillion dollars. Obama has spent more money in two months than all presidents combined including GW. We're screwed.
  • Veterans insurance
    Obama is a bum. This prick wants all of the scum to be cared for but dumps on the people most responsible for keeping this country free and great. Commander in Chief my butt. He should be prosecuted for treason and hung.
  • Vets Paying for SC Injuries
    Believe the Obama administration has totally lost it now to even consider such a ridiculous thing! All vets deserve more than what they get from the US government! They told my father, a Korean and WWII vet, he'd be taken care of, but they lied!! Maybe our government should look at some of the fruitless social spending. God bless the military and their families! And by the way, I believe the Eisenhower administration sent military advisors to Vietnam back in the 50s.
  • late but important note
    Looking over my health insurance policy(yeah I know I need a life but it helps me sleep)there is a clause that is in most policies that exclude damages caused by an "act of war". This along with the"pre-existing condition" clause would make it almost impossible for a injured veteran to get any type of health insurance. Veterans are the one case where the government MUST do it.(remember: government should do only what the private sector can not,will not or should not do). This is one of those cases.
  • make our guys pay???
    typical lefty loo's ideas....wonder what else are they gonna charge?? rent on the wheelchairs??
  • Wounded Veterans
    We as a country should feel ashamed if we let down one of these veterans by not extending every assitance we can. I agree with Neal's comment that this should be what our stimulus funds should be used for.
  • To; Smooth Operator
    "Obama holds the record for presiding over the WORST STOCK MARKET DECLINE FOR ANY NEW PRESIDENT. It's a fact, don't lie to us anymore about that."

    To "lie" about that would suggest that I had said something about Obama being responsible for the stock market's performance at all... which, of course, I haven't.

    It's only loony right-wingers making such an absurd claim--except on days when the market's up, of course. Then they're suspiciously silent.

    Entertaining stuff!
  • Oh and Rotcer
    In case you missed it, we WON the war in Iraq after you dimocrats said we lost it.

    And speaking of wars that couldn't be won, it was Kennedy who got us involved in Vietnam. A dimocrat.
  • Market is up
    Copyleft said: By the way, the Dow Jones average has been up for several days now. All you folks who were 100% convinced that it responds SOLELY to Obama's speeches can thank him now.'

    Yeah, thanks for finally shutting your trap Obama.
  • Make vets pay for wartime injuries?
    This only further demonstrate's Obama's complete disdain for the military and those who serve(d).

    Oh and as for the market, Copy (not that you'd know much about it), your boy Obama holds the record for presiding over the WORST STOCK MARKET DECLINE FOR ANY NEW PRESIDENT. It's a fact, don't lie to us anymore about that.

    Thirdly, conservatives have ALWAYS been about supporting our veterans, unlike you bed-wetting liberals who have consistently tried to cut vital weapons programs, cut V.A. benefits, etc. Rather, welcome to OUR (the conservative) side of V.A. affairs.
  • also
    I can think of another way to help our soldiers, involving not starting unnecessary and pointless wars, and putting a stop to them when you realize you can't win instead of trying to act tough to get votes.

    But yeah, privatizing health insurance for veterans is a bad idea, just like privatizing it for anyone is.

    However, under the idiotic Republican philosophy, wouldn't this mean veterans would get better healthcare?
  • Vets
    If it is being mentioned, why dismiss it? We know that when ideas are thrown around, it usually means someone high up takes it seroiusly. Writing it off as a rumour is silly. And whining about wanting to spend money on wounded vets is really silly. If we're going to spend it anyway, at least spend it where it's really needed and not on someone's pet project in their home district or on people who never lifted a finger to serve their country. Got it, Copyleft? Ya feelin' me dog?
  • When the VA was created by Abe Licoln, it's sole mission was to provide services for those who were injured in battle. The fact that this administration would even consider charging private healthcare insurance for a service-connected injury is insane and saddening. It would effect all of us non-vets too, because with all that extra expense, you better believe all of our premiums would go up. Can you imagine a wounded vet coming home, unable to get the care he/she needed because neither the VA nor the private sector will cover it. And the VA is the second largest agency in the gov't...what the %$#@ are they there for?
  • To; Damifino
    Again, I agree with you. Though I don't see how the current military budget is relevant. Seems to me that sound judgment (i.e., not risking soldiers' lives when it's unnecessary) is a lot more valuable than the latest high-tech gadgetry in keeping our troops alive and healthy--and it's free!

    But you're right that we need to do more for veteran healthcare, and I'm in full agreement that decorated heroes should receive post-service privileges (such as tax exemptions) as well.

    Once again, welcome to the correct--LIBERAL--side of the issue!
  • Nolan:
    Your right on target! Maybe people should deal with the military health care system before they run begging government for it - Because at the end of the day that is what they'll get. You really can put the word FREE in front of something and people will trip over themselves to get it.
  • Rumors
    Rumors, rumors, and more rumors. This is all smoke without substance. It looks like the idea was bounced for vets to use private insurance for non-service related illnesses, such as the flu and it was “recreated” into something totally different. Let’s get back to reality, we have more serious problems in the nation to be spending time with this garbage.
  • SICKO president
    The thought of Prezbo even thinking about this makes me furious.
    He's so willing to insure "poor" people at government expense with the new SCHIP program (some families even making up to $80K+/year!)--and eventually try to implement UHC for everybody, yet vets are screwed and have to find their own health care when they come back from the battlefield. This is actually one of the few times government should step in and help when it comes to these guys.
    Obama's disdain of the military is so transparent, it makes me sick! Even though she's a complete quackjob, Patty Murray got it right this time.
    Also keep in mind (and I'm a former military vet, so I've seen these typical cases, to include myself): who typically joins the military? Poor people, people who don't have money/connections to go to college, minorities, people from poor rural areas--basically people who might have been on welfare rolls if not for self-motivation to actually get up and do something with their lives (rather than sit home and collect a welfare paycheck--and oh yeah, government paid health insurance). So the lazy ones who sat at home and didn't join the military deserve government-paid healthcare while the ones who actually risked their lives for their country are left to fend for themselves? What a joke you are, Prezbo.
  • It's already starting
    I'm not wounded (thank god) but after 23 years I have a LOT of service connected disabilities. The VA rates me at 90%, and if you know anything about the VA rating system you know that 50% or higher is severe enough that *everything* you go see the VA about is considered service connected. The last 18 months of treatment I have received from the VA was charged to TRICARE! WTF?!. I pay for TRICARE for my family not for myself. Even for severly disabled folks like myself the VA is ALREADY charging the public and private insurance companies we have outside of the VA. I have no idea when or why this changed but it's already happening here in Florida.
  • All Part of the Plan
    Saw a theory on another thread that this was all a show specically designed to provoke outrage and allow the Obamadminstration to ride in on a white horse and say,"they would all be covered as soon as you agree to my universal healthcare proposal. Problem solved. You may kiss my ring."
  • re: copyleft
    If liberals are so concerned for the veterans then why cut any of the military budget. If the newest hi-tech equipment can prevent injuries to our troops then let them have it. Less injuries mean less medical needs when they get home. NO expense should be too much for our troops. Did you know at one time "Medal of Honor" receiptant would pay no income tax for life. This needs to be for all veterans and for active service men. Servicemen should have the same quality benifits as our lazy-ass congress gets and more.Their actually putting their lives on the line rather than a re-election.
  • Figures
    Here we go again, talking about screwing the vets again. I do agree with giving us all a million or 2, throw in some financial planning assistance with that, and let us take care of ourselves. Hell, we do it already as it is.
  • Copyleft
    You're right Copyleft, there are inconsistencies....in your claims as usual. You're retarded, plain and simple.
  • Veterans Are Cheated Again
    This thing is a slap in the face of all of the Veterans that have served in the military be it peace time or war. I thought that Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki would have some compassion for his fellow vets, but no. All he wants is the prestige that goes with the job and can not be bothered by the rank and file vets
  • military Private insurance.....
    Wow, this is wonderful, now they all will qualify for food stamps and the 1st lady can get more press time crying about the poor state of our military families.

    We way under pay our military and then have dumped them out when they get injured with little to no medical help and less pay to support them & their families.

    Where does it stop, this clown speaking out of all 7 sides of his mouth and never saying a damn thing.

    I don't know and am very scared about where this may send us.
  • Amateur Hour
    I don't believe that OBama would consider this. Yeah, I know people love to yammer on about him being a radical anti-military liberal running dog Communist whatever, but he's not *stupid*.

    But this *does* impugn his management skills. The VA Secretary should have been in a position to say, "No, that's a serious proposal." It's relaly beginning to seem like amateur hour down there at 1600 PA.
  • Charging wounded warriors
    How dumb do you have to be to thoroughly annoy thousands of people trained in the use of automatic weaponry, hand grenades, RPGs,etc.?

    Additionally, how long would it be before civilian health insurance would stop covering anyone who served in the military?
  • Inconsistency...again
    What a huge surprise. The notion of "government-run healthcare" is supposed to be a nightmarishly bad scenario... and yet Boortz calls for MORE government spending on veterans' care.

    By the way, that's a position liberals agree with. Welcome to the right side!

    I'm impressed with Scott's nerve in dredging up the "Democrats wanting the military to fail" slogan again, after seeing how it boomeranged on Rush when HE tried it on the economic recovery agenda. It seems the "support the people, not the plan" argument only works when Republicans are using it, huh? Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

    By the way, the Dow Jones average has been up for several days now. All you folks who were 100% convinced that it responds SOLELY to Obama's speeches can thank him now. (The rest of us know better.)
  • Private Healthcare? How about Private Pay?
    This line of thinking from the Left is what infuriates all Marines like me, as well as all other vets. We sign a contract to perform a duty and give up our own freedoms as part of that contract. A contract is between two or more parties, however, and therefore, as the government is the second party in that contract, they have obligations to meet as well.

    Therefore, if you want us to cover our healthcare in the private market (which most of us do because of how bad the system is), then pay us cash for that benefit and let us work with doctors who will compete for that cash rather than force us to get sub-standard care as sub-standard citizens.

    We earned the benefit. Don't breach our contract.
  • PrezBO going to fly commercial?
    Aren't the pilots of Air Force 1 and Marine 1 military?
  • Charging vets for care
    While I am the first to admit that the socialized style medical care we receive as disabled vets is terrible in most cases. Six month waits for appointments, poor diagnosis and follow-up care, having to prove that you are sick before they will take you seriously are just a few examples of these problems. However, the bums in Congress get a very good health care plan for free and the dregs of society that have done nothing for America get Medicaid and other services for free; so, I find it very interesting that the Liberals would single out those who have sacrificed their time, health, mind and bodies for the Country as needing to pay for treating injuries incurred while serving America.
  • What would you expect when Obama wanted the Military to fail
    This is par for the course for someone who wants the military to fail. Sorry, Copyleft and all you leftist out there. Obama is a Democrat and the Democrats are on record for wanting the military to fail when Bush was president.

    So for Obama trying to dump off veterans on the private sector when veterans like put our lives on the line and literally sacrificed life and limb for this country just have the Commander in Chief throw us under the bus is rather appalling. With this guy and his ilk in charge, I do believe that my sacrifices for this country were in vain.
  • But...but..but...
    After what we've all heard and seen regarding the VA, the wounded vets definitely deserve the best care we can give them. And I'd put them in their own category ahead of people who could probably get their own healthcare but just want the government to do it for them. I have a soft spot in my heart for vets of all services and all conflicts. I also care about folks who have taken care of themselves but are falling short. The smokers, not so much. The freeloaders, hopefully there aren't that many, not at all. For sure, put the funds for vets at the top of the priority list. But then, we're talking about career politicians. Like the moron from Vermont who emphatically declared that 'Big business just wanted to keep wages low' in his support of card check. No misplaced priorities there. We've got some work to do.
  • AMEN
    "Do you want our government to spend money? Spend it on wounded warriors. Give every one of them a million bucks ... tax free. That would certainly be a better use of our money than funding blueberry research and building butterfly displays."

    AMEN!!! Retired Air Force, luckily not a war-wounded vet, but I am all for that last part of the thread.
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