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Jamal's sycophancy
Congratulations, Jamal. You're proof positive that some folks should be subjected to an IQ test before they vote....or breed.
Authority needs to show restraint regardless
To those who say something along the lines of "if she hadn't broken the law she wouldn't have been in that situation" (looking at you NCchic), I have this to say: innocent until proven guilty. To those who say that the blows were checked or not that bad (looking at you Mike and others), how can you expect anyone to believe that someone mouthing off in a holding cell deserves being thrown into a wall and then to the floor face first while hands are restrained behind. What could that girl have said to deserve that? A "Mama" joke? Maybe a comment like "your wife said your nightstick is a little limp?" Please, explain to me how some juvenile talking crap to arresting officers, magistrate, etc deserves being body checked into a wall and thrown to the floor. That is a human being in that video regardless of if she is rightfully there or not. If one of my kids got in some trouble, I wouldn't want officers throwing them around a cell no matter if they mouthed off. Imagine if your kid got picked up in a case of mistaken identity, would you be OK with the officers doing this to him/her? Most officers expect to get verbal abuse, it's part of the job. I would say that 99.999% of officers expect that kind of behavior out of some unruly prisoners and still wouldn't do what these two did. It's despicable and a frightening abuse of power. They should be disciplined for abuse of prisoners and maybe even kicked off the force with assault charges filed. At the very least, they should be open to a civil suit. "Striking fear into young hearts," wow. I didn't know that was the job of the police to strike fear. I thought it was to uphold the law.
An offbeat thought would be that these two idiots should have known that there was a camera in the cell and that they might get into trouble if this were broadcasted.
"beating" of girl
With no audio track, it is difficult to understand. It appears that the girl performed a typical teenage beligerence. The policeman didn't strike her; anyone who really watches this can see that. Both blows were checked to the point that they were not blows at all, but thrusts. Maybe it was pepper spray, but the officer's fists could not have struck the girl's face, and at any rate, the "evidence" collected afterwards was minimal, and it would have taken total idiots to "beat up" a girl under these circumstances. It appears that she smarted off to them, as a typical teen would, and was given a rough but harmless counter response by trained correctional officials in an attempt to control her and gain cooperation. It looks much more violent than it is, and for a reason: Striking fear into young hearts early often pays great dividends. Watching the video closely, the first officer who "attacked" ensured that his hand was between the girl's head and the wall. She was "tackled" and brought down. Teenagers, no matter how innocent they can act, can be quite malevolent, and laws prevent thorough searches of them. Once they are arrested, it becomes the duty of the responsible authority to ensure that they do not endanger others and themselves-with emphasis given to others, as common logic would suggest. I have viewed this video, and in my opinion as a layman, had I been asked to discharge my duties as a law man, I would have little more to say to those cops than "Ease up just a bit."
Policeman beating girl
The cop should and will be punished for his actions on a loud mouthed car thief that assaulted him whith her shoe....
Good Job, Mr. Bad Cop!
girl & killer police
the kocking of her shoe, the running of her mouth or the crime she did did not call for the officer to throw her against the wall grab her by her hair and punch her twoo times in her head that is a out of control officer that has taken his badge to far he sould have had more control .This is what people deal with everyday and until we stop saying its okay we will see these incidents caught on tape shame on him & his partner they need to lose there job s they are very sick pigs.
Puhleeasssse
I'm a woman, not much bigger than this girl is and I see nothing wrong w/what these 2 policemen did. So they were a little rough....who knows what crap they had already put up with. We expect perfection at a job that few people are willing to do and then demean and disrespect those in uniform. Let's face it, if she hadn't broken the law she wouldn't have been in that situation. A verbal reprimand is all this officer needs/deserves but, of course, we love victims so this girl will probably get a gold medal and court settlement.
Girl-police video
Eh, at first I thought it was them mainly throwing her into a cell after she mouthed off to them. But actually watching it? Way, WAY too far. It's sad that this occasionally happens, as it gives ALL police a black eye (not literally).
All kinds of tragedies will occur now -- policemen will get fired. Maybe even do jail time. Parents of the girl will sue, and it will all be to the taxpayers' expense. Girl will likely continue on thinking she's a bada$$. And isolated incidents like this will cause many in certain communities to distrust the police and not turn in or give vital information on where the murderers, rapists, general thugs are.
To Jamal
What does a name have to do with it? Mumia Abu-Jamal murdered Ofc. Daniel Faulkner in 1981. Jamal is seen as a hero especially by the Hollywood left. Jamal could be named John Smith and he'd still be a scumbag. But thanks for showing your ignorance. My point is that yes there are bad cops. It's the law of averages and these 2 men will be punished. However, there is never equal outrage over an officer getting killed by thugs. on 2/13/09, Ofc. John Pawlowski was responding to a fight in Philadelphia and was shot and killed by a man who said he was going to kill a cop. Ofc. Pawlowski was killed and left a pregnant wife. Yet no outrage about that.
Responsibility
I do belive the Police office is wrong for beating on a teen girl....However, The responibility has to go back to the girl and her parents. If she had not choosen to steal the car and Dis-obey her Guardian (the poeple responisble for her) then she would not have been in jail to begin with. Time to take that police officer off the street and time to take responibilty for our own actions
What the...???
I fail to see any motive to bring down an inmate at least 100 lbs lighterl, with arms crossed and foul/smart mouth.
hope he's fired but most of all serve time in a general population lock up.
cops beating the girl
If I was her parent and I saw what those two cops did to her I would have been so mad and so out to get them fired. But after seeing this film on her and her actions towards them I would have congradulated them,patted them on the back and say "Thank You." As I see it she used her shoe as a weapon towards them as she kicked them off. She was rude and very agressive towards authority. She stoled her parents car, went on a joy ride and was being a number one brat. She got what she was asking for. It was about time that someone showed her that it is a crule world out there when you leave the nest and that you are held for your own actions. Now maybe she will become a better citizen and show more love towards other people. Good for you Mr. Police Men!!
Blatant Police Brutality
The idiots in this video are directly responsible for the increase in apathy when a cop is killed by the "bad guys". Who are the bad guys anymore? Its really hard to tell. Maybe if their fellow officers decide to put the smackdown on these 2 idiots, on film, and we all get to watch, it will help. But since that isn't going to happen, anyone know where can I donate to Joseph Ree Sockwell's "Fly a retarted, worthless low grade trailer trash wife beater short pecker worthless omeba to an A$$ beating fund"? I'll make a donation, pay admission, buy popcorn, film it for free and host it on my website. How's that for some economic stimulus? LOL
Girl gets away easy....
She should just be glad she is not muslim or doing this ina muslim country. However, I think that in America.....The cops should be hung by their balls!!!!!
Please
I am 57 years old, and I frequently remove my shoes the same way, as I can't bend and stoop like I used to. For God's sake, she didn't even kick it that hard. I have kicked them harder than that at home. Furthermore, it appeared to be a running shoe or some such. Of course they had to take her shoes: "Kid; we don't want no hangin'."
If she so egregiously injured that poor baby cop, then he is in the wrong line of work.
He's a wussy-boy.
Joseph Ree Sockwell, you are my hero. We need more great Americans like you.
No privacy??
Am I the only one that is really disturbed that you have no privacy in there when using the toilet?
Other then that - it was a cop losing his temper and a girl pushing her luck. He will lose his job (rightfully so) and will end up paying her money or the insurance company will (an apology and a few free punches on the ex-cop would be better and cheaper on the tax payers).
thugs posing as cops
This is why I am always very respectful to cops on duty , they hold all the cards. Of course if one tried this on me his life expectancy would be pretty short. I wouldn't do a thing in custody. I'd make a mental note to meet him and his family on my terms nuff said.
BTW: If I hit this cop in the back of the head like in the video(head on concrete floor) his brains would be literally coming out of his ears. I practice iron palm and can break a 2 inch thick brick stepping stone with a 1 inch punch. I'm starting spearhand training next month. Those who have mastered the art can easily punch through leather punching bags.
I love it!
I love it! Yeah, typers whipped cops. Yeah, right. Nobody deserves or caused what they got. Overseas, most folks would say "This is brutality?" She needs to get drunk in a Muslim country and mouth off to men. Call mommy and daddy or their caddy.
Physical Abuse by Crinimals
Bottom line. This girl is a minor. The cops are supposed to be professionals. This is excessive force and child abuse.
Both officers should be fired, charged and tried because THEY are crinimals.
I am disgusted that Neal finds this funny. Neal, go to www.liveleak.com and watch some of the violent police abuses that happen in other countries. It may give you a idea of where we're heading if we find this "funny".
Police Brutality
This girl did not deserve any of this. A policemans job is not to punish! These individuals are paid to serve and protect and that does not include judgement. For those of you that think she deserved this, you are placing too much power in the hands of the wrong people. First establish guilt, then let a judge mete out the punishment. She was clearly not resisting. If the cop is so thin skinned he needs to get other work.
cops
this is why i still call them PIGS!
police beating
these two pricks should be IN jail after this video got out. what the hell is happening to this beloved country of mine. America is dying and no-one cares......
When Animals Attack
I've read many comments and am pretty shocked at how many people think this kind of response is acceptable. There is NOTHING she could have said or done to deserve that reaction. Maybe if the officers were female I'd understand, but they are "grown" Men and she a teenage Girl. As a father this ENRAGES me. These men and many like them are a disgrace to man-kind and are as big of criminals as the people they detain! In my opinion, these men are the very reason people hate cops and I DON'T BLAME THEM!!!
read the article
If everyone reads the full article you would see things differently. Before this thing happened, the cop was involved in TWO fatal shootings within the last 3 years and a DUI. In his DUI case he was drunk and on prescription drugs.....what did he get, he got admin leave and a deffered sentence with probation. I know there are good cops, but why didn't his "good" cop co-workers say or do anything? Cops don't get fired or jail time until they finally kill someone. This was known for years and no one did anything. Please read the link I'm posting before you comment. What would happen to you if you did this to your own kid let alone someone else's. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/401779_schene28.html
Beating?
I didn't see her getting beat. The cop took her down to the ground and they restrained her. I didn't see him hit her. Much ado about nothing.
YOU wouldn't take this job
this video is an example of many things just gone wrongly out of control.Yes cops should be held to a higher standard because of the power they are intrusted with ,but how many of you know that the starting pay for them is about $20 to $25k a year. You can't buy much expertise and professionalism for that and you sure as hell couldn't get most of you "lets-get-the-mean-ol'cop" commentors to risk a bullet everyday for that money. Waiters,bussboys and valet parking attendants make more. My understanding is she was in arrested for taking her parents car without permision. Although this seems to be a simple family problem to get the police involved a stolen auto report would have to be filed which bumps it up to felony status. It looks like "overreacting" and "excessive force" was used, but anything hitting an officer from a prisoner is condsidered "assualting an officer" and must be reacted with rapid force. Fear is a useful tool in handling criminals and it is the only thing preventing a riot in a jail. This incident is a simple loss of control issue by the cops and they should be investigated and disiplined if found wrong.
Ego
This is,in picture form, a typical "show my authority beat my chest can't do anything else in life so I'll be a cop bully" acting out his ego. They prey on the weak and do it all in the name of authority. Fortunately, most cops aren't like this.
Laughing
"Laughing", you sound like a under-achieving ignorant redneck loser. How's life with minimum wage? Not fun, I bet.
Crosscut
Crosscut has the mentality of alot of police. I'd be willing to bet he is/was one. Hopefully the latter. Or crosscut could be right. She does look very intimidating. 110 lbs of one girl whooping machine.......I noticed the skip in the video too. They prob took her to another room to pepper spray her cuts.
Funny Jero
Let's see, the "whole second shift" comes after you with flashlights and mace and you "whip some cop ass". Yeah, we all belive you. You're full of it.
Just goes to show what useless sacks of crap the police are. They are nothing but revenue agents for whatever municipality they work. This is what you get when you recruit from Wendy's.
BeatDown
Its just the Hood comin' at ya.
Jero and the N. GA Cops
I went through the same many years ago. I laughed at the cops and here comes the "whole second shift." The mace, three cell flashlights, and chicken sticks started hitting me so I whipped some cop ass. Yep, I had to pay the fines and record was wiped clean because it was a mistaken on the part to the fuzz. Protect and serve my ass.
Beating
This arrested piece of trash probably has given and received worse beatings than this.
Perhaps the girl needed a good ass-beat.. But the cops were stupid here.. Big time! It's because of acts like this that physically disciplining our own children for good reason is now labeled as child abuse. Very sad.
Jero
Sounds like the cops up your way need a good ass kicking of their own.
No, I don't think anyone deserves to get beat up for disagreeing with cops, but from most of the postings, I'd have to say that most of the violence or threatened violence was caused by motor mouths. From the tone of your response, I'd say that's not the case with you. You just ran into one of the bad cops.
Steve
Steve, I agree with some of what you said, BUT, you say that "ass-whippings" from the police are from bad attitude or a smart mouth? So what you are saying is that if you say ANYTHING police do not agree with you get what you deserve. From PERSONAL experience, I've been dragged out of my car (at a roadblock/checkpoint)because I asked an officer in a nice tone why they would set a road block at 8:30 in the morning. He threw me on the hood told me to keep my f'ing hands on it. Then searched my car for my ins. card. Which I also reminded him that proof of insurance is easily checked by drivers lic number. I was then told to shut my mouth or he would find something wrong. If you know any nice cops, send them to north GA.
Anyone notice the time jumps at 4:40:16 to 7 minutes later? Those 2 guys probobly noticed how much damage they did to her or took her to an area without a camera to continue. And why does he come back to wipe up the blood? Personally I would think that he's trying to hide something. And for anyone that says he's doing it for safety....why didn't he bother to put on any gloves?
Wow
I am amazed at some (most) of the comments here. I can't imagine what this girl could have said or done short of shooting at the cops that would have caused this response. This particular cop needs to be arrested, then fired, then sued. I despise criminals but in the criminal justice system there are laws and rules and this cop followed none of them. I am a conservative, law and order kind of guy...but if the cops ignore the law and trample on the notion of order what do we have? A respect for the law has to come from the place all respect does and that it must be earned. This cop does not deserve respect and he does not deserve our admiration. He is a thug...not unlike the people he is sent out to protect us from.
Two types of cops
Most folks know that there are two types of cops. The vast majority of them are solid people who are there to earn a living and do some good. There is a minority, however, that are there to bully, boss, and otherwise get off on the power that goes with the badge. They tend to get weeded out fairly quickly. It's wrong to think that all cops are the bad type.
As to the readers who have had bad experiences with the police, my guess is that at least 90% of the ass-whippings received at the hands of cops were caused by your own bad attitude or smart mouth. I'd also bet that the majority of readers who have had run-ins with the cops have also had run-ins with coworkers, spouses, and neighbors. Being a jerk tends to cause conflict with others, whether they wear a badge or not.
beating
Regardless of the girl's actions, the officers should have only restrained her, not administered a violent assault.
If she committed a crime by kicking her shoe at the officer, charge her. But the cops are not judge, jury and executioner. Even if she's a pain in the ass, they are still responsible for her safety. The cop that delivered the beating deserves to lose his job, and possibly be indicted on assault charges.
We need sworn officers who uphold the highest standard of professional ethics. It's a difficult job. It carries a lot of responsibility. And usually doesn't enough pay. Don't work in that job if you can't do it without violating the rights of the people you are paid to protect.
Lucrative Beating
I would take a beating like that to get the eventual settlement this girl will get for taking that beating.
Funny as hel....
Okay, it was excessive, but who hear thinks that she has now learned a life lesson and will not be so foolish as to make that mistake again.
Life is hard and most often unfair.
Obama savior?
To Bitter, yes, Obama can be a savior of sorts. Can you imagine him hitting that girl if he was the police man? NO he would have talked to her and worked it out that way. Like he'll work out our nations problems with the congress.
Don't be a hater. Support President Obama 100%. He is on the right side of things. Thank you.
funny
For all you people that think she got what she deserved....the next time a little girl throws a shoe or another "deadly" weapon at you, do what these 2 clowns did. See what these "hero" cops you are supporting think of you. And to whoever typed that the officer had severe pain from the tennis shoe striking him in the shin.....get real. If anyone of you beat down a minor half as bad as this you will be in prison for the next 15 yrs. Try it if you think I'm wrong.
Cops are above the law we all know that
There are ten thousand different ways that could have been handled, However. I want to see those cops suspend, without pay. I want to see them brought up on charges of assault, battery, assault on a minor, as well as child abuse. And any other host of charges that are relevant.
Cops these days think that the gun and the badge make them above all other citizens.
before you call cop bashing... I am a officer
Obama the savior
Jamal actually thinks Obama will end stuff like this? Why do you people think he is the answer to ALL OF LIFE'S PROBLEMS? I am an Obama hater, but honestly, you people are asking way to much from this man and I'm starting to feel sorry for him.
Also, Stan Gable is a blithering idiot. How do I know this? He used to word "fascist" to describe something he does not approve of, which is all he needed to do to prove his idiocy.
Lastly, there will be more and more cops like this if Obama gets his way and pushes our country in the direction of such socialist utopias like Russia and Cuba...
Both are at fault
I blame the girl more for creating the situation, and her total lack of respect for authorities that put her in the situation that she found herself. Was it excessive yes, but the cop had no idea how far she would take it after assaulting him by kicking her shoe at him. We still dont know what she did to find herself there or, the other actions that lead up to the moments we see on the video. I have had family members that have been in law enforcement and there is always more to the story than what you see in those clips, that kind of force is not doled out like some in this thread would have you believe. Maybe if you drop the attitude and give respect for these people putting their lives on the line to serve the public everyday, you might have better experiences with law enforcement because it is a thankless job. You know you really would be surprised; how far apologizing, admitting guilt, and being polite will get you. It has gotten me out of 2 very bad speeding tickets, and I am a guy. That being said, I think the cop should be suspended without pay for a period of time to contemplate whether that much force was necessary.
As for the girl, welcome to the real world princess, where there are consequences for your actions. I am sure that your parents are responsible for your total disregard for law enforcement, so because of your youth, they are as much or more to blame as you are. Maybe that crap is tolerated by your parents but, as you found out, is not by law enforcement. Since you are I am sure one of the 60% of high school age people that will not be graduating, hopefully this experience will teach you the proper behavior when you are incarcerated going forward. Maybe this will be a deterrent, and you may choose different friends, role models, or different activities, so you wont find yourself incarcerated again.
Fear
Why should we fear the police? This is why as an adult - 40 yr old. Even the routine traffic stop can be a frightening experience. These enforcement people; have all the ammo on their side; and its very scary.
Fear = complacency; ever try to have a discussion with a cop? They are on steriods and juiced up; it can get out of hand fast and you are on your own.
The real issue in this video.
OK, as a father of a three year old girl, this video really hits me hard. As a tax paying citizen, knowing my money paid those two to do that makes me mad. Last but not least, as a man, a supervisor of twenty or so men, as a manager in a business where losing control will cost you business, I am outraged. The guy throwing the punches to the back of the head, after the cuffs were on, well, I hope someone you know reads this and tells you, my name is Joseph Ree Sockwell, you can contact me at Engineering Tectonics in Winston-Salem, NC. Dial 411, call me, I'll pay for your plane ticket. I will tie one arm behind my back and tie myshoes together. Please come on over here. I will deal you an ass beating thatyou needed a long time ago you coward. I'll take two hits so I can give you one. A real man huh, and you probably wonder why your wife slept with your neighbors son, she neede a real man you sissy punk. I'll pay for your flight, come down south, I'm from Georgia, I'm a real peach blossom, I'll beat the stinch of pork off you. You need to be taught why you shouldn't hit women. You also shpuld have been taught that as an officer, part of your responsibility is to be above that brutal mentality and you have the duty to preserve peace. Not hit a young girl in the back of the head, with her head on a concrete floor, after you have her under control. I would love 5 minutes with you, with no regard to what would happen to me afterwards as long as it was taped and allowed to be viewed by the masses. I dare you to call me, I dare you to take the offer. Please, I might even see if someone would sponsor your trip, so you could make some money from the beating you would get. I hope your suspension doesn't include a loss of benefits, cause you will need medical and dental. I assure you, you call, you come and I'll do the rest you retarted, worthless low grade trailer trash wife beater short pecker worthless omeba. You should be taken from the gene pool.
Steves comment
Steves comment is racist,What do you have agaist someone who has a different name than you.
Like I said before, Im personally glad Obama is here to unite us all into the UNITED states of America. Thank goodness that he was elected. All this HATE will be behind us once and for all. He will solve all of our problems. Something that Bush did not or could not do.
No Excuses
No way should policemen beat a young girl like 'they' did. Spank her maybe, but not cold cock her. The policemen are acting as childish as she.
Defendng the gender and age
Go ahead and defend her gender and age. She too knew she was 15 and a female and that did not stop her from being and doing what she did. Want to be treted with respect... well guess what.. you have to treat others with respect as well and that includes NOT stealing to get put into a situation like that. If you do steal adn get caught, don't disrespect the officers that are arresting and bookining you through the process. Remember. You did it to yourself.
Had that been my daughter OR son (and I have four kids), I'd pat the cop on the back for not letting my kid act that way after commiting a crime.
Keep appeasing criminals and they learn nothing. Treat them like scum of the earth and perhaps, they will get the friggen clue that crime is not a good way to go in life.
Question
How come there no equal outrage when a police officer is killed in the line of duty by a fine citizen like Mumia Abu Jamaal? How about showing some outrage over the murder of a Philadelphia police officer who left his pregnant wife to raise their child alone? And here's another clue, how about not breaking the law? Nah, can't do that. That makes sense.
Economic down turn plus cops
Wait until the money to pay these guys runs low. They will kick your (__!__) and eat your doenuts too. Look at the 3rd world cops, that's whats we have to look forward too.
Cop beat girl....
You've got to be kidding me? Her "shoe assault" was nothing...he should have kept the shoe and closed the door. A parent could be locked up for treating their kid like that, the copy should also be prosecuted, suspended etc. until he learns how to be a good cop.
That's what has been missing in her life!
She didn't incur that wrath by merely kicking her shoe at them & you don't know where she might have hit him...Teenagers are out of control because of single parent upbringing & the crippling of parental authority by an oppressive government - including government schools...Actions have consequences for us all.
cops beat6ing girl
What a professonal bunch. Of course the thugs over reactated, they should be serving 10 -20. period. So should their boss man.
The Sheriff's Office policy manual says deputies should use physical or deadly force only when "necessary to effect an arrest, to defend themselves or others from violence, or to otherwise accomplish police duties according to law."
[...]
In his own report from the incident, [Officer] Schene wrote that the shoe hit him in the right shin, "causing injury and pain." He wrote that he "placed" her into handcuffs and that she needed medical attention for a "panic attack."
He said a "blood filled pocket" formed on his shin, requiring treatment at Auburn General Hospital, according to his report. The video, however, appears to show his shin strike a metal toilet as he pushes the girl against the wall.
Police men do a beat down on girl
Well what saw she started it by kickin at them n spitin also so for there protectin they had use force....
Awesome
This clip would have been even better than awesome if there would have been some sound. Go COPS
Wimp Cop
If this 15 year old female has a father, this sorry piece of gestapo will "tote an ass whooping" very soon. I look forward to that video!
As someone who's been on the other end...
Can't help but notice that generally: - People who have had encounters with the police know that the police are just trying to do their job, which means they don't care who they hurt, and anyone who is within their gaze can't do much other than pray they don't get shot at the end of the day when one of them feels threatened. - People who haven't had encounters with the police, or who have only had them on favorable terms, know that the police are just trying to do their job, and think that everyone ever arrested is a blood-thirsty murderer who deserves to be flayed alive anyway, so any sign of "excessive force" is just something their mothers should have done long ago.
Maybe it would be nice to live in a society where there's nothing you can do to get your head slammed against a wall by anyone at all, other than being an immediate lethal threat. People saying, basically "she got put in her place like she deserved." sound like a typical "tough guy" attitude. I don't think bullying should be encouraged on EITHER end of the law.
SHE may be a woman, but that doesn't change the fact that she kicked her shoe at the officer. While I don't advocate hitting women, I don't advocate hitting men either. You can't discount someone based on their gender; women nowadays have the ability to be just as dangerous as men. As others have pointed out, we don't know what goes on behind the scene. She very well may have verbally or physically threatened the officer previously. Maybe it's just because I'm law-abiding and have never been to jail, but something tells me you don't kick at an officer. I can guarantee she won't do it again.
Disgusted
It seems that the comments have become more and more crazy as the day goes on. One would only hope that you are commenting about other people's comments and not on the actual video.
This is a 15 year old kid. Not only a kid but a girl. Does anyone honestly think that she could have harmed the officer? This mental midget of a cop should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Yes she is a punk, yes she was asking for it, and yes she needs to learn a lesson. But the key too all of this is the word SHE. SHE is a girl going to be a woman any real man knows that women should never be treated this way. The most disturbing part is that the second officer did not jump in and immediately pull this guy back. What was he thinking?
This is a prime example of why law enforcement officals are looked down on by many people. Their positions should be respected and we should thank them for their service. Time and time again they give everyone of us reasons just like this to despise them and the power trip many of them are on.
This just shows how parents are letting the kids down. If you do not teach respect at home, you won't have it any where else. It's a full time job to raise a child, and respect is a big part of that. You cann't just give up and give in. Not everyone will give in. Thank God. Maybe she learned something here.
You gotta be kidding me!
You boneheads are condoning this? If it was a 200lb male I might see where some of you could turn "cheerleader" for an episode of COPS. But it's a 15 YEAR OLD GIRL! And she kicked her 6oz SHOE at this jerk. That must have been a terrifying threat to this poor police officer. I'm surprised he didn't wet his pants. Beat the crap out of her and drag her around by her hair. Give me a break. I hope the bastard goes to jail.
We need more of this even if it is a bit rough just so we can get back to a respectable society. Youth today does not respect authority of any kind. They need to bring back good old fashioned spankings to schools as well. Police and other authority figures can not take anyone lightly. just think about the Brian Nichols courtroom situation.
Girl in Cell
I guess that's a great example of "I shoulda kept my mouth shut!"
I saw an assault
Folks, she kicked toward her jailors. This is an assault. They have no duty to respond with proportional force. They do have a duty to ensure that they maintain control of that facility for their own safety as well as the safety of the prisoners. If they don't rigorously put down the small assaults, the prisoners will quickly escalate and people will REALLY be harmed. The public doesn't really know what a radial nerve strike is, but I'm pretty sure this little snit was resisting bringing her hands together so she could be cuffed. Bringing some pain and paralysis to that arm will make it easier for the officer to force her to comply. I definitely saw a girl who wanted to act tough and then got the tough treatment. Also, we don't know what she was mouthing to the officer. It could have been a legitimate threat from her gang to his person or family.
I'm pretty sure this little girl is not America's next sweetheart, and as awful as this violence is to see, it is a far better alternative than letting that facility get out of control.
Cop deserves a medal
That is what happens when in the jungle the little rodent starts popping off to the lion. You can tell that is exactly what she was doing by her little attitude stand and cocked hips, crossed arms, and side set head. She thought she was all that and had been thinking that she was all that and abruptly found out she was not all that.
This is what should happen to ALL criminals and people who get caught stealing. Yeah, that is what she is there for theft. Give the cop a medal for not putting up with that self-inflated self-important attitude and ending her thought that she is all that. He may go to jail for this but this is a lesson she will never forget I'll wager.
Shame!
I really dont care how rude or mouthy this girl was to these officers there is no excuse for the actions and the abuse that was used against this girl that can be justified.. This was just two rouge cops abusing there power against a defenseless 15 year old girl. These officers need more training before they put a badge back on. We have seen so much of this type of brutality in the past that its now becoming common place. It just seems to me that as soon as you put a badge on you lose all self control and since of humanity. These guys should be fired and pay restitution.
Not harsh enough
You see a flippant little punk girl who decided she thought she was a bad a** and found out she wasn't. Too harsh? Not harsh enough. Work with criminals like these guys do or even in the penal system. Too harsh? Not harsh enough. Punk criminals do this on a daily basis because they are not afraid of the punishment and do not take it seriously enough. They think, like this little girl did, that they were "all that." She found out that she isn't all that. Society is getting tired of criminals and their self-centered egotistical ways. You can tell by the attitidue that girl popped off with in her stance and actions before the shoe toss that she had been causing problems prior to this and the cop probably had enough of one too many insults and decided to teach this self-inflated person that there is a line you don't cross and when you do soemone is going to be there to make you pay for it, which is what he did. I say kudos to the cop! Don't want to get abused like that? Don't do crap to get put in jail like... steal, which is why she was there in the first place. And yes, the punishment should fit the crime so she is lucky she isn't getting her little princess hands cut off.
JR
No, I wasn't joking, JR. Obama will indeed stop things like this from ever happening again. Only if we get behind him and support. He needs these 4 years plus another four, but he can do it. Yes we CAN!
Business As Usual
The police can get away with anything. This reminds me of 4 Griffin-Spalding County task force officers Deputy William Gregory, of the Spalding County Sheriff s Office, and Lt. Darrell Dix, Lt. Tony Thomason and Sgt. Richard Phillips, of the Griffin Police Department that stole cash from seizures. After being caught, they put back the money. They were put on "administrative leave" because the serial numbers of the money they "put back" didn't match the seized money. The Grand Jury decided not to prosecute them, probably in fear that all their drug cases against people whose money they seized would have to be reviewed and ultimately dismissed. The four were reinstated, promoted and given back pay for their underhanded efforts. Law enforcement officers should be held to a higher standard because their actions result in the loss of freedom for citizens. Policeman are to arrest and store the culprits until the justice system decides the punishment. A lot of times, police feel they have to use more force than is actually needed to administer their own punishment. http://www.griffindailynews.com/shared-content/search/index.php?search=go&o=0&l=50&s=relevance&r=Subject%2CAuthor%2CContent&d1=01-01-1980&d2=01-01-2050&q=darrell+dix+bubba+gregory
Girl in cell
Looking at the video, and not hearing audio, you cannot easily judge what is going on. More information is needed to make a more solid determination. Yes, it *appears* the police may have acted with too much force. However, anybody viewing the video does not have audio, and does not know what happened before. Seems that many are reacting simply to what they have heard on the radio in conjunction with this video.
If the girl was being a b-t-h, then she needed some attitude readjustment. Some have said the police should have turned her around and cuffed her -- if she's being a b-t-h, then she's not going to do anything willingly. I did hear on the air that she took her parents car without permission, and in some cases, she could be interpreted as a car thief. That's a pretty major felony right there. In essence, you don't have the full story when looking at the video, so you can't make a fully valid determination--only an assumption. (and it may be a faulty assumption at that).
wow
I listened to Neal talk about this on the radio and then when I got into the office I watched it myself.
I have to say that though I do agree that the girl probably acted immaturely and deserved some good corporal punishment, she certainly did not deserve the horrible beating I just saw. I cannot think of anything a 15 year old girl could possibly do to me (short of threatening my life or my family's life with a weapon) to warrant that kind of reaction from me. I'm the father of two daughters that can get under my skin on occasion but there is no excuse for a man to lose his temper with a girl/woman _ever_. She was not a threat to his safety nor the safety of his fellow officer. He vastly overreacted to her disrespectful behavior.
In a nutshell, this officer cannot be excused and unfortunately his lack of restraint will cost him his job, his future and most likely his freedom. I feel a great deal of pity for the girl that is still a kid. She's probably been raised without much guidance and is only doing what she has been programmed to do. Is she excused? No. She has a brain and should choose more wise courses of action. Does she deserve to be beaten so savagely? Absolutely, unequivocally _NO_. Neal, I'm somewhat disappointed that you would have mixed emotions about this. Even if this girl had a horrible mouth on her, I cannot condone the sheer terror that likely went through her mind as she was beaten by two animals. For that moment she suffered something that I'm quite sure you will never suffer in your life. I think justifying this takes a little bit of your humanity away.
Without humanity, you won't be able to look at things objectively and make intelligent decisions.
At least its on tape. I hope she gets rich and these 2 losers get jail time. Let'm try something like that when their uniform is orange just like everyone around them.
That fascist pulled her hair, what party in this altercation was the girl?
Put the shoe on the other foot
As a parent, if I reacted like that and had video showing my teenager disrespecting me, I don't think the COPS would buy that excuse and let me go. I think I would be behind bars for a while. Although I think she should have been taught a lesson, I think the only lesson she'll learn from this is to hate COPS even more then she did before and the lesson of how much money you can win with a valid lawsuit. She'll be bragging about this for years.
Looks Familiar
I've had exactly that happen to me--still have a scar on my wrist from the handcuffs. I was a trying to help the officers too. I had on big floppy shorts and they were trying to find my wallet in them. I reached down to get it out for them and the rest of it looked like what you saw here minus the extra punches. My crime? Swerving on the road.
beatin!
That was a violent video. I don't think she deserved that beating but there is a big problem w/ our youth today and it starts in the home. Also, with our police force. I agree w/ the caller that said that gov. officials should get double the penalty for crimes. But anyways I think its silly every one is asking obama to save us from everything. "obama save me from this and that and from responsibilities I dont want to be a grown up and pay for things or work hard." not saying all obama supporters are this way but just from what I have been hearing it seems to be the majority.
Idiot
Another Government Employee you are an idiot. Punching her in the face is textbook, slamming her head in the wall is text book, punching her while on her back is textbook, picking her up by her hair is textbook. The only part that may be textbook is him coming back and checking for blood.
wow
Women want the same rights as men dont they?
Who are the adult(s)?
I won't say she is completely innocent, or that the officers didn't need to take action of some sort, but the officer who reacted by kicking, throwing her against a wall, hitting her and lifting her by the hair was way out of line.
After having the shoe kicked at them they could have calmly entered the room, turned her around, cuffed her, removed the remaining shoe (if any), sat her down and left the room for her to continue her temper tantrum by herself.
That officer clearly doesn't have the psychological fortitude to handle the stress of being in law enforcement. And he definitely doesn't need to be in any position of authority over ANY teen aged children.
The best consequence for that girls actions was to NOT let her push the buttons of the so-called adults and maybe face an additional charge for hitting one with a shoe. The JUDGE should be the one to hand out the consequence, not the officer.
I've never found myself in that situation ...
I'm smart enough to observe what happens and was able to figure out what causes that ...
Shoes
It looked like she tossed a shoe at him lightly. She was probably being a smart ass, and deserved to be reprimanded, but not like that. Those two douche bags had no right to lay a hand on her in any sort of violence whatsoever.
ABOVE THE LAW
This only reinforces my opinion that lots of policeman think they are above the law. If 2 male cops can't handcuff a little girl without roughing her up to that extent, they should be pushing a pencil behind a desk. If law enforcement departments would just fire and arrest cops like this on the spot, maybe they wouldn't have the reputation a lot of people have about them. This assault was on camera ... just think of what this cop would have done if he knew he wasn't being videotaped. He could have lied about the assault then got his buddy to cover it up.
I'm Just Askin'
Don't they take your shoes when you get put in the holding cell? It looks like she was complying with an order to surrender her shoes.
Luke
You're an idiot too, with your "all cops are bad" mentality. Sure there are a ton of crooked, stupid, dick-with-a-badge cops. But there are plenty of good cops out there too.
Idiot?
Jamal, if that's a joke, haha, if not, you're an idiot. Obama solve our problems? Give me a break.
What if his mom speaks to him like that? Does she get the same treatment? This is the high school bully with a badge and they high five after its over. This is why I will NEVER help out the thugs in blue, not only do they NOT fight crime, they ARE the crime. If they are not professional enough to handle a girl, how badly do they have to beat up a man? Then they wonder why people dont like them? Give me a break, NO ONE LIKES BULLIES. And if you attitude is, obey my commands and I wont beat your a$$, how does that earn respect? How about having some respect for the public instead of acting like thugs? You wanna be a dick with a badge, you can do that. Nowhere else in America would that behavior be accepted, but for the boys in blue, they encourage it....and you wonder why you get shot in the face during traffic stops?
"Cop"
Typical gestapo police response. The cops should remove the sign that display "to protect and serve". What a joke. The cannot protect and this is typical "service".
Wrong is wrong
There isn't any way that this is acceptble. Its usually black man thats getting the whipping, not a white girl. Thats why its important that everyone gets behind our new president Obama so he can solve all our problems and make everything right again. The Bush republicans are like this police man who whip on minorities.
CONTROL
This video is a prime example of cops or corrections officers giving the suspect more than an inch just so the officer can take back a mile. Its in the officer hands from the begining. If the prisoner displays resistance in the begining then that is the time to put them in restraints i.e. handcuffs and shackles. They can walk the halls like a real prisoner. If this had been a dangerous prisoner they would have done that to avoid outburst. This in turn would have avoided the whole incident. Im gonna asume these bullies did not feel truly treatened by the 150lb wieght advantage each one of them had and the fact that she had aready been searched in the prosessing. By the way I am the father of a mouthy little 13 year old girl who thinks she is smarter than everyone. Sometimes I want to do exactly the same thing to her, but I'm the one with adult experiances that help me make safe mature decisions.
The girl deserved it
The girl deserved what she got. She was undoubtedly a smart-alec cun the sad thing is tha the cop is in trouble.
Response
No matter who is to blame here, Personally I would have used a healthy dose of pepper spray to give the young lady some time to reconsider her options
Wimp cop
If you react as he did, you don't need to be a cop. The bad cop will get away absolutely free. He needs to find himself a real job ... janitor at the service station restrooms down the street ... would be a step up for him.
The video.
Without the first 20 seconds I can't completely judge.
Rule 1: Never mouth off at a cop. Especially a jail guard. The consequences are never good.
The takedown, while a bit rough, looked pretty much textbook. Can't really see where the guard is punching after the girl is down, but I assume it is around the upper arms to get the cuffs on.
Could it have been handled better? Maybe. But I doubt the little snit mouths off again.
She deserved it, but....
The girl deserved to be handled roughly, but the cop went a bit too far. The good news is that this little whippin' might get her life back on track. The bad news is that the cop will lose his job and the Liberals will use it as "proof" of widespread Police brutality.
The moral of the story? If you don't want to get your butt kicked by a cop, don't get arrested.
Girl Beaten
She got what her Mama should've given her and didn't. No respect anymore. Not easy being a cop today. Not sure if it was right but I can understand the cop snapping at the disrepect.
Tough Guy
I heard reports that the girl said your momma's so fat, and that set him off. He should be fired. Probably be able to find a position with-in our current administration. He is a punk with a badge.
Teens Need a Good Beating Sometimes
Here you go...Youth at it's best! This is what government and liberals are creating. I do not condone the Officers, but I would give 100% if the Parents did it. Either way, teens today have no respect for anyone. And as far as the Hip Hop Reference...YOU BET! It is pure violence and disrespect, has nothing to do with CULTURE!!! Russel Simmons BS defense.
Lesson
I was about that age when the same thing happened to me. Just one lesson from lifes little book of boo-boo's
What violence??
I'll bet she changed her mouth and attitude following this exchange. Go Boys in Blue!
More teens can use a good beaten
First - I do think that the cop did go a little too far BUT SHE DID BREAK A LAW AND most people today have NO respect for anyone. IF she had not broken a law in the first place, she would not have been in JAIL. If she had been respectful and not a MOUTHY BI**H, they would have closed the door and left her there. I guess she learned today that what you say and do can have Consequences!
Walk a Mile
I have been on the side of the correctional officer.
Let me just say that allowing something as "innocent" as kicking your shoes off at a correctional officer "slide" becomes a gray line slippery slope. Other inmates see it and assume this is a acceptable way to conduct yourself towards correctional officers.
Blame can be laid at 3 places;
First the Jail Administrator for not defining proper procedure for collecting clothing/shoes from inmates.
Second the inmate for assaulting a correctional officer. Yes it is weak but what she did, in a court of law, is considered assault.
Third the correctional officers (both) for disproportionate response. Neither officer was injured and thus the proper response is to file the report and bring even more charges against her.
BTW what was she in jail for in the first place?
What you don't know
What you dont see is the abuse that cop had to put up with BEFORE she gets thrown into the cell...Kids have become disrespectful and "entitled". Think they have the world all figured out until someone finally tells them no. Think about WHY she was there in the first place, I am sure it wasn't her perfect attendance at school.
What we have here is...
successful communication. Act like a thug, get treated like a thug.
I just wish that security cameras had microphones so we could hear how tough she was at the beginning and how that all changed when the long arm of the law wiped the smirk from her face and onto the cell wall.
Girl in Cell
MY GOD!!! How do you say LAW SUET!!! There was absolutely no REASON by anyones standards to visciously attack that girl like that. That so called COP, probably beats his own wife or girlfriend like that. Anyone want to BET? Even the Police Chief needs to be fired over that one.
Officer lost it
Boortz I'm surprised at you for not showing the footage of the child hitting the officer with her shoe, but whatever. This child is out after midnight, gets picked up by the police. She probably runs her mouth all the way to the jail and is probably running her mouth after she gets inside. However, the child's conduct doesn't change the fact that the officer totally unhinged when he got hit by the shoe, and is a moron that needs to be fired. Now good officers everywhere have to deal with the negative fallout. Thanks for nothing, you jagoff.
Beating
This goes on a lot. I have lost all respect for law enforcement. Law enforcements line is " we are not all like that" My response is : you allow it, therefore you are just as culpable. "What are you going to do when they come for you ?"
Getting Beaten
You know, as a teenager, I got pulled over on my way to a puck concert. DWP = Driving While Punk. My buddy and I were pulled roughly out of the car and THROWN onto the hood while we were searched. This was an indicator to me to SHUT UP, BE POLITE, AND DO WHAT I WAS TOLD.
My buddy mouthed off and got roughed up. I was "yes, sir", "no, sir" and did whatever they said. I didn't have any problems.
Once it was over, we got a lawyer and dealt with it. All charges were dropped and the cops were disciplined. Notice folks that this happens AFTERWORDS!
Learn the rules, kids - don't mess with the cops. They have the guns and don't know you from a bad guy until you show them you are not a bad guy. Start acting like a bad guy (like this girl did) and that's how you get treated...
Cops beating Girl
I'll bet that's the last time she mouths off to a cop. She probably got the idea from listening to too much "hip hop". Welcome to real life, honey. Good for the cops.
seriously?
Why didn't they just shut the door? That was; A. Unnecessary expendature of Calories, and B. Disproportionate response. I'd hate to see how these guys father their children if this is considered a reasonable retaliation for what is essentially a four-year-old's "he won't stop poking me" game.
Cops...
They are ham-strung by rules and regs, they get the pay and respect of a fast food restaurant manager; so THIS is the type of high-school bully that the job attracts.
Not that unusual
This is more common than you think. You only hear about it when the beatee is black and the beater is white, though. Too many police officers and prison guards are nothing more than bullies. It makes them all look bad.
Government
Forget all the politics and other important things people dont pay attention to. This is government at work. You really want MORE government?
Girl in cell
They should have beat her like a drum! When you have been arrested, locked up, and all that, it might not be a good time to kick at the cops. But since she was not white it will probably be ok.
Really?
I wonder who the ACLU will defend.
Video
RADIAL NERVE STRIKE!!!!!!
To the back of her head?
brutality
how many times a day does this go unreported or covered up by the blue wall of silence?