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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

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FORCING THE CAR MARKET

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Neal Boortz
@ March 20, 2009 8:16 AM
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Yesterday Barack Obama decided that he wanted to throw more money at another problem. So he unveiled his plan to spend $2.4 billion for electric vehicle development. The plan also gives a $7,500 tax credit to people who buy plug-in hybrid vehicles.

So what's the problem? The problem is that there isn't a market for these vehicles. As of right now, hybrid cars only represent 2% of US vehicle sales, and it is deeply unprofitable for car companies. Just wait until the people buying those hybrids (and I have one myself) have to replace the batteries. You're going to hear howls of outrage then. My guess? The government will come in with some taxpayer-funded program to help people replace batteries in their hybrids. What fun.

In short .. Obama wants to give them money anyway to make cars that people don't want to buy. According to the LA Times:

Last month, only 15,144 hybrids sold nationwide, down almost two-thirds from April, when the segment's sales peaked and gas averaged $3.57 a gallon. That's far larger than the drop in industry sales for the period and scarcely a better showing than January, when hybrid sales were at their lowest since early 2005.

Yet automakers believe they have little choice but to make more hybrids. Though car buyers are losing interest, politicians are pushing them as key to reducing U.S. dependence on foreign oil and limiting the global-warming gases that cars emit into the atmosphere.

Did you know that the auto parts industry is also getting a bailout? Just another $5 billion of your tax dollars. No matter what happens to the recipient car company, the money will be paid. The payment of new bailout money to auto parts manufacturers is your sure sign that more bailout money is on its way to GM and others. BOHICA



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What others are saying

  • I dont get you guys
    why is either Republican or Democrat (this is obviously a republican hang out) do any of you guys actually have your own thoughts on things or is it all fed to you by loud talking overweight white guys. Where is your own curiosity?
  • sensible cars, not hybrids
    I have a Subaru Forester, small for an SUV, but not exactly a tiny car, and it gets 27 MPG in Atlanta traffic. When we go to Florida, family of 4, with the back piled up with stuff 3/4 of the way to the ceiling, with a hitch platform hanging on the back piled up with more stuff, doing about 80-85, we get 30 MPG. Who needs a hybrid?

    I had an '84 VW diesel that got 40 MPG in town, and around 50 on the highway. The dang thing ran almost forever. It had almost 300,000 miles on it when the durned government made them take the sulfur out of diesel. The formula change tore up my fuel pump, which is pretty expensive, so I let it go as old as it was. I'd probably still be driving it if not for that.

    I saw a report on the net that Subaru has a diesel in the works for the Forester that gets 35 city and maybe 45 highway. If they bring that to the states, I'll get one.
  • Eletric cars
    If I recall it was somewhere in Europe where only like 50 or 60 of these things sold all year. Eletric cars are a fine market, if you can get people to buy them.

    But sorry, this whole nonsense about them being ugly to help gas companies? Not buying it, because they would have told them to lower prices during the summer to sell more cars! And you shouldn't have to have a crazed Global Warming to sell your cars. If anything, it's the Electric Cars that are swinging off the Environmentalists.
  • Hybrids
    I saw a great example of poetic justice recently, a Honda hybrid driver being cited for speeding! It warmed cockles of my heart as I downshifted my BMW and blew past. Oh, my last out of town trip netted me 30 mpg and it doesn't take nickle cadmium to make it go. My hybridized neighbors aren't quite as smug these days, they're discovering the true cost of owning their cars...scooters are still chic aren't they?
  • Electric
    The big problem will come when electricity pricing skyrockets due to "cap and trade". I'm sure there will be meaures where you have 'overage' penalties when you go over your monthly alloted amount of watts or whatever.
    All the greenies will be freaking out when energy costs in this country go sky high. But then maybe they'll qualify for the "tax credits" I'm sure Obama will create.
    95% tax on everything - bring it!
  • Hybrids
    The government does not need to interfere in the market! There are plenty of people who will buy a hybrid for the feel good factor. Me? I love gadgets and technology. If GM survives long enough to build the Volt, I'll test drive it. If the numbers (including insurance and battery replacement)make any sense, I might actually buy one.
  • Stirring the pot
    Just wanted to throw this out there for the feedback..has anyone heard of Tesla Motors, their roadster or upcoming sedan debut? http://www.teslamotors.com/display_data/tedpresentation_final.swf
  • Prezbo
    Where does this idiot think he's going to get the money? Is he going to tax all of us at 90%? Oh, I forgot. It's Bush's fault.
  • The Golf Cart Comment
    is so far out of line it's not funny. I live in Peachtree City. I keep our Golf Cart charged constantly. It will run all day on a charge. Going by the comment here, my electric bill should be $1000 a month. Some of the time folks should just be quiet.
  • Forcing The Car Market
    Have been in the automotive industry for 30 years at the dealer level.I've seen the federal and state government gradually destroy the business.These morons know nothing about business at any level.You can't reason with an idiot.I could write 2 pages off the top of my head of really stupid regulations.Here's a new approach,leave us alone!
  • Thanks for the laugh, Simon
    enjoyed that one, thanks. I suppose they could hook up windmills and solar panels to their precious hybrids and make them "self-sufficient", right?
  • Hybrid Cars
    Why doesn't anyone ever bring up the subject of battery disposal? If you think the greenies are having a fit over internal combustion engines, just wait until they have to deal with all of the toxins that are created by the batteries they have held so near and dear.
  • Do as say, not as I do....
    If Obama was serious about this, he wouldn't of had a fleet of Caddy's built for his presidential motorcade. What am I thinking though, the ruling class deserve to use our money for what ever they want, right?
  • Because electricity is from nukes?
    Most electricity in this country is from coal burning plants. So the enviro-wackers want you to drive an electric car, that ultimately gets its juice from coal -- or worse yet, the dreaded nukes.

    But.... Since it's all about appearances, not actually accomplishing anything (dumcrats), it's all OK. Because my conscious is clear -- they told me that in my self esteem courses.
  • Plug-In Hybrids
    I live in an apartment complex. Where, exactly, am I supposed to plug in a hybrid? Am I supposed to run an extension cord from my apartment out to the parking lot? Because I can tell you right now that's not a good idea.
  • I'll tell you why Scott
    The insane, wacko environmentalists have imposed such restrictive emissions legislation upon manufacturers, they CAN'T meet those standards in a "cost effective" solution for the consumer. So, if you're willing to shell out $35,000 for a phone booth on wheels, go ahead. This just reinforces the wisdom of the free marketplace: no one's stupid enough (well, maybe Kalifornians are) to do that and the government can't "impose" products that are inefficient upon the consumer. They tried that in Soviet Russia, remember?

    The democrats don't understand free-market economics and are forcing the taxpayer to "subsidize" market inefficiencies such as the hybrid. It's really that simple.
  • Hybrids
    Stu:

    Half of your argument is OK, but you left out the other part; After Prezbo gets his Cap and Trade bill pushed through, electricity costs will skyrocket also
  • responding to Stan
    not sure about the big cars, but it cost anywhere from 12-30 dollars to charge an electric golf car to run 8 hours. Whereas 5 gallons of gasoline will run one for a week. My 1991 Honda CRX HF gets no less than 55 mpg making it cheaper to operate the newer self charging electic/gas vehicles.
  • Hybrid batteries
    Friend of mine just dropped $3300 on a new battery for her Civic Hybrid...

    Diesel and CNG are the way to go...
  • Hybrid gas mileage without the batteries
    Look folks there is a way to get the gas mileage of a hybrid without the evironmental damage and expense of the battery construction. The Europeans have been doing this for years. They make diesel automobiles. Volkswagen has one that passes even California emissions and gets hybrid fuel mileage numbers. Audi makes a 500 hp diesel sports car that gets 28MPG. A diesel powered racing sports car has won the Le Mans 24 hours for the past three years. (The endurance factor is there.) Why can't the Automotive Engineers in the US take a hint and go this route. It would be a lot cheaper than trying to peddle their hybrids. The only reason hybrids are getting the push is because of Socialistic measures.
    Why is it that the Europeans get it on this one and we can't?
  • The unseen cost
    Before you purchase a hybrid, call your insurance agent and ask him how much that little feel good toy is going to cost you to insure. You may save a few pieces of coin on fuel, but you will be paying some serious cash to the insurance company to cover yourself in that little death trap.
  • Electric Cars
    what good will a electric car be, when Obama and Gore and the rest of the save the planet idiots do away with coal fired electric plants which supply most of the countries electricity??? Then the consumer will be up $hits creek again. Its sort of funny, I have been to numerous 3rd world countries, and the really could give a Rat's A$$ about the pollution they create, the are more concerned about surviving today.
  • how to increase demand
    When the liberal government finds their investment isn't being bought, they will just make sure demand for their pet project goes up.

    How to do that? Intentionally drive up the price of oil, their most hated resource. Raise taxes on gas, limit where we can drill...
  • Rising price of electricity
    I don't know about the rest of the country, but where I live the price of electricity just went through the roof. I live in a townhouse and am careful about conserving electricity. However, my bill for Jan. was $350.00. Feb. was $250.00. How much electricity does it take to charge the batteries of a hybrid?
  • Cost
    What many people do not understand, not sure about big cars, but it cost more to fuel and electric golf car than a gasloline golf car. You burn fuel to procduce the electricity then have to transfer it to recharging batteries that are only good for 5 years. Electric vehicles in the long run consume more fuel.
  • plug in hybrids
    While I don't care for Obama's policies, I don't think this is a bad idea just because the demand is low for such cars right now.

    Gas prices have been steadily rising, and will continue to rise when the hyperinflation starts kicking in. It takes years to develop new cars. so by the time these are ready, gas will most likely cost a fortune.
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