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BRINGING MONEY BACK HOME

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Neal Boortz
@ March 27, 2009 8:33 AM
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The IRS has decided that it wants offshore money to come back to the United States. Thrilling news, Americans! Your IRS is willing to give you a HUGE break if you will bring that money back home to work in our economy. The plan being drafted would significantly lower penalties for Americans that keep their money overseas.

Now read that paragraph again. It would lower the PENALTIES! Not the tax rates. Right now the IRS nails you with a 50% penalty on the average balance you had in that overseas account for the past three years. That's just the penalty. When you bring the money back to work on our economy you also get nailed with the regular income taxes. And then, of course, there's the interest. Take the penalty, the taxes and the interest and you have virtually nothing less.

So what is the grand new IRS plan? Well, they'll reduce the penalty - and only the penalty - to either 5% or 20%. If the money was inherited the penalty will be less because you aren't actually the one who sent the money over yonder.

The plan is "intended to lure out of hiding scores of wealthy people who must come forward and declare their accounts in order to take advantage of the lower penalty."

There's a better idea. How much money are we talking about here? Trillions. A lot. I can't see why anyone would be anxious to take part in this plan. Leave the money over there and wait for better times. But what would happen if the government suddenly announced that all of this money could come home with no taxes and no penalty! Just bring it back to work in our economy and there will be no taxes due. I know, taxpayers with their money already in the US will scream about unfair treatment ... but if the goal here is to put more money into our economy without raising taxes or having to borrow the stuff ... then here's your solution. Trillions waiting to come home. Just say the word ... and the word damn sure isn't "we'll reduce the penalty but you'll still have to pay taxes and interest."

There is a problem here ... a problem crystal clear to the political class. If we did declare a tax amnesty, and if those trillions of dollars did come streaming back across the pond and into our economy... guess who gets to spend it? Well, it wouldn't be government. It's private sector money and the private sector would be spending and investing it. This does not please the Democrat mind. The government, and only the government, should be spending this money. When this is over you want to be able to credit the government with bailing us out .. not the private sector. Empower government, not the private sector. Don't you know who's in charge here?

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What others are saying

  • Breaking the Law
    Neal, these are folks that are breaking the law. Most of us want the Fair Tax ushered in but the law today still stands.

    Now, there's good reasons for giving amnesty to illegal Mexicans. But they are breaking the law. Why would we promote illegal activity by offering amnesty for these people that are already criminals?

    The difference between the two groups of perp's. One group is made up of poor Mexicans. The other group is made up of wealthy tax evaders like Timothy Geithner.
  • the trillions
    are actually in use,in a much more favorable market where these corporations can build that 20 million dollar manufacturing plant and not be penalized for contributing jobs to the community.as shareholder of one of these corporations as well as long time employee i can tell you to follow the paper trail and most will lead back to the fact that our politicians like things positioned the way they are.and reguardless of how they vote or fail to vote these corporations whom utilize this money in overseas markets most recently in china where their recent stimulus package includes the abolishment of the corporate tax all together, will continue to recieve kickbacks aka campaign contributions in order to allow them (the corporations) to continue their activities.
  • OH Come On....
    This one is so stupid it not funny! Their not trying to get the money back.

    They make this deal, the average dumb mass thinks the goverment is being fair, but when the people that know the truth don't bring the money back,

    Presto!

    The evil rich are just being unfair and don't car about the poor guy!

    Hell, even A Lib can see that one coming.
  • Thanks for the reply, but..
    I understand that money was alreayd produced, and therefore in circulation, but that doesnt seem to be the case. If those trillions were in circuation, they would be actively taxed and moved from consumer to business back to consumer etc... instead, they are sitting offshore not working at all. Right now, it is as if that money doesn't exist. My thought is, if we introduce that money back to our economy, we'll have much more money in active circulation, and those at the bottom of the totem pole who don't have all this money will find that what money they do have is now a much smaller piece of the economic pie, e.g. the idea of inflation seems real. Think of it as though Bill Gates showed up in a small town of 10,000 people and gave everyone an equal share of his wealth... you'd find that in that micro economy that home values would skyrocket, items in stores would skyrocket etc... all because there is much more money in play than there was before. The same net effect could be accomplished by the government printing more money, which we all know is a bad idea. So, not that I'm suggesting it, but would it benefit the value of the Dollar to see that money overseas simply vanish?

    I'm not debating the merits of the Fair Tax, taxing consumption vs productivity is brilliant. I'm just trying to understand it better...
  • Bringing the $$ Back Home
    The money they are talking about is back taxes that should have been paid but which were fraudulantly avoided. The US is offering amnesty for tax fraudsters to come clean. There is nothing illigal about holding overseas bank accounts. Not paying taxes on the world wide income from these accounts is what the IRS is legally trying to go after. And yes, there are large penalties for people comitting tax fraud.
  • FAIR
    we the people would replace the system for the above reason,they the politicians want to tax the contributing few of us whom work so why not replace it with something FAIR.we all pay our FAIR dues from the millionaire whom buys that million dollar yacht to the guy on welfare buying that 6 pack of beer and a pack of old golds.its not a question of class warfare its a question of what is fair and what is not and currently it is not fair to penalize that corporation whom contributes jobs to an otherwise poor community as it is not FAIR to confinscate ones wages in order to penalize them for their hard work so that they can reward people whom do not work.This is not a fair spend bill it is a Fairtax bill.
  • The same
    The same people that were smart enough to move their funds overseas are the same ones smart enough to laugh at this plan and keep the funds overseas.
  • Forrest
    No, that money overseas is real money that was originally accounted for as far as the "in circulation" amount that drives our valuation. Clear as mud?
  • Forrest
    Forrest, you're right about that. The problem is, so many people are fixated on Neal's Fairtax plan, that they won't look at the bigger picture. Sure, it would be nice to have transparency in our tax system via the Fairtax. However, that doesn't take away the problem we have with the whole Federal Reserve System issues to start with. Why in the HELL would we want to REPLACE a tax with anything?? Why not move forward with HR 1207 "The Federal Reserve Transparency Act" and expose them for the weasels they are. Then, we can abolish the Fed and eliminate the need for income taxes all together (since the amount of money we owe them equals the amount of money the gov't takes in through income/payroll taxes). We won't need to replace it with anything.
  • fairtax
    I beleive a great deal of the inflation would be taken care of by way of the competition the fairtax would create among corporations whom now have taxes embeded into their overall cost.the more competition the lower youre cost as a consumer.we would also have a much greater ability as consumers by way of having our whole takehome paycheck as a disposable income.not to mention those prebate checks which we would be recieving each month to cover our cost of living expenses taxes.its a win win situation for the working class as well as the less fortunate whom are not able to work.and a very big boost and true incentive to bring americas jobs back home.
  • Fair Tx
    The fair tax might have been 23% pre Obama, but it sure s hell wouldn't be now.
  • Bound to Happen
    People of means that are sick of the current tax system and wellfare communities it creates are planning their exit strategy accordingly.

    Bring us the fair tax, please!
  • Here's Ted's chance
    Isn't the Kennedy fortune in Belize? Do you suppose the Kennedy family will take oppotune and lead by example?
  • I support the fair tax, but what about...
    what about inflation due to a return of such a tremendous amount of money? Would that not accelerate inflation to a higher degree than the govt printing a mere one trillion dollars? I'm a huge supporter of the Fair Tax, but this question just popped in my head. Any ideas on whether this would be a concern?
  • money overseas
    there is roughly 12 trillion with a T being securely utilized in off shore accounts the fairtax was were and is the only cure to their runaway washingtons and benjamins.why should they bring their money home? so the government generously allows them to keep 20 cents on the dollar..
  • lure with no bait
    sorry, you cant just throw a hook in the water and expect to catch a fish.

    you need a worm.

    If they really wanted to quickly stimulte the economy they could wave all penalties and taxes for a period of time.. like 6 months.. to bring money back into the us economy from overseas, THEN return it to this 20% penalty or whatever.

    how can you penalize people for introducing money into your economy anyway? It makes no sense.. thats like a business charging you for walking in the door to consider buying something..
  • why faces the uber taxes and uber regulations?
    Even after this reduced penalty, it is still not feasible to bring that offshore money back.
    Until the United States removes the 16th Amendment to the Constitution and implements an entirely new tax code, (Fair Tax) anyone, then people will still keep their money offshore.

    For you government educated types out there, the US is one of the few countries that taxes its citizens and US based corporations on its worldwide income. This means that if you are a US citizen living in another country, you still have to pay US taxes on your income. (There is a partial exemption for foreign paid wages.) This is why many US based corporations are moving their headquarters off of US Soil. (Can you say, Halliburton?)
  • Bringing money back home
    If I had money overseas, the only way in &#() that I would bring it back is if the fairtax is in place.
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