I suppose you could say that terrorism is never going away so I guess we should just give that a rest as well? I find it morally wrong to kill another living being whether it's in a womb or not.

What if they had said that about slavery back in the day of Lincoln?

You're entertaining and informative Neal but you are off on this one. But you can do as you please since it's your show of course. Any Christian who would ever vote for anyone that is pro-choice on abortion though needs to do some soul-searching in my opinion. I attend church with a lot of folks that turn a blind eye to it and then go the other way when it comes to war and the death penalty. Go figure.

Neal, you seem to feel no fight should be undertaken if, in your mind, it cannot succeed.

You think we should give up the so-called war on drugs "because we're not winning". So we should make drugs legal, and have an even worse nightmare in this country.

You could be right -- the pro-lifers could be fighting a battle they can never win. But that's no reason to give up. They are fighting for the helpless who are unable to fight for themselves.

GAIanJag, regarding your three stipulations -- the 3 times you think abortion should be allowed. 1. Rape. I know a woman who was raped, got pregnant, had the baby and raised it. Her daughter is now about to graduate from high school as salutatorian. They are very happy.

2. Incest. I've known several fine people who were the result of incestuous relationships.

3. Life, not 'health', of the mother. Last I heard, no doctor anywhere has ever seen a case where an abortion was necessary to save the life of the mother.

Babies should be born. It's not their fault how the were conceived. Mothers who conceive through rape or incest should have all the counseling they need to help them deal with those ordeals. Put the baby up for adoption if you just can't stand the thought of raising it. But every baby deserves the right to LIVE.

First of all, if Roe v. Wade were overruled, the result would be that the states would once again have the power to regulate abortion, as they had before it was federalized by activist judges inventing phoney rights and reading them into the Constitution between the lines. A good lawyer would know that. Boortz is a lawyer, but he doesn't seem to know that. Draw your own conclusions.

Also, a real libertarian would welcome a return to the pre-1973 state-law regime, however he feels about abortion itself. Boortz doesn't want to discuss it - except when he does want to discuss it. But he doesn't want his audience to discuss it. And he doesn't want private schools to discuss it. He'd rather talk about the Fairy Tax.

You can't take it with you, Neally - though I know you'll try. What you will take with you is how you dealt with the great moral issues of your times. And you know that the abortion issue is as much about "women's rights" as the slavery issue was about "states' rights".

Women have the right to choose to have sex, or not, just like men. And they should be held responsible for the consequences of that decision, just like men. I will take this "women's rights" issue seriously the day the "choice" crowd starts advocating that abandonment be made "safe and legal" for fathers.

Also, thanks for opening the abortion debate on your site, though I'm sure you didn't mean to do it. But now you have this Comment thing, and you can't hang up on us. So next time you feel like taking a cheap shot at a private school that is trying to follow its own beliefs and values - in spite of the desires of Neal Barf and his buddy Obama - please expect lots of discussion of abortion in the Comments section.

One last thing I think is worth noting. Boortz is basically against Obama. And Boortz is basically for private schools. But suddenly, Boortz is siding with Obama against a private school. Amazing. What could make Boortz do that? Why, abortion, of course. What else? Boortz has a special place in his heart for abortions. It seems he never met an abortion he didn't like. And he will even attack the freedom of a private school, and come to the defense of the Obamanation, in order to defend the honor of abortion. Isn't that remarkable?

Hey Neal. Obama smokes cigarettes. Why don't you spend a few days raving about that. And you know if Notre Dame had disinvited him because of his cigarette smoking, you would have been in a really tough spot, wouldn't you? Too bad.

Inexplicably, Neal Boortz doesn't understand the "right to life" portion of the Declaration of Independence. He fancies himself some expert on the intent of the Founding Fathers.

Neal, read Pat Buchanan's take on the
Notre Dame controversy. Instead of
arrogantly and blithely dismissing the
abortion issue (your modus operandi) he
succinctly narrows the issue:

"There is thus a direct clash between what Notre Dame professes to stand for and what Notre Dame is doing."

Go read it. smart ass. You might learn something.

Like tax law.. oh wait, you can't change that either

If discussing abortion will not change people minds neither will discussing homosexuality. Both should be topics that should not be banned on your show.

Hm, yeah. You can call it that, I suppose.

But a lot of people consider the Fairtax, "tax nonsense."

And a lot of people considered the idea of liberty, "freedom nonsense."

And besides. Since when are we supposed to let go of an idea just because it will be hard to overturn? Those are the ideas you fight hardest for.

Neal,

You missed the point here.

While obozo is currently the president and its normally an honor having a president at your commencement; here its a disgrace because fundamentally obozo and the NDame are like north and south poles apart.

I agree its good to have conversation about issues. But conversation means two way communication not being "speeeched" at by the TOTUS. That's not communication thats bantering.

So bring obozo in for a debate and lets discuss. But 1000% pass on a speech - his ideas and goals aren't on same path of the students at ND. What is he going to say at the end - "now go forth and draw that governement entitlement".

So, neal you just plain missed it - i'd say it buzzed (split) your hair as it flew over... but then you'd have to have hair. Its like saying the confederate flag is a symbol of slavery, or that the Civil War was fought over slavery (cause any inteligent person knows it was not).

Assinine this issue may be but the MSM is doing a good job of ignoring it.

"Government has no authority over a woman's body." If you believe in this argument, then does that mean you support prostitution, drug use, or suicide too?

Yes, yes, and yes.

Despite the facts abortion is legalized murder and the State is running out of money, the State continues to advocate for the legalized murder of future taxpayers for the short-term high of continually electing the same power hungry officials.

If the State were to operate properly, it would:
A) Not allow abortions on the basis is kills off future taxpayers,
B) Not allow gays/homosexuals to marry as they can not physically provide future taxpayers to the benefit of the State,
C) Encourage healthy relationships between consenting adults who, full well being mature adults, recognize that sex while fun may begat children and accept the responsibility for them.

I for one hope KING NEAL will cease with his potshots at Pro-Lifers when he is too chicken to take calls on the air regarding abortion.

Neal, when you are ready to talk about as a moral issue, let us know. Otherwise, cut the crap. The issue is larger than "a right to choose," or "I'm not a woman so I won't make a choice." Hypocrite.

...not the Obamabot....

Stop fighting for your beliefs, Lord Neal has spoken.

He is going to use this occasion to announce his new 431 billion dollar college initiative.

Someone there at the school will have to write it and rig up a teleprompter. He won't know what he as said until he gets back to DC.

So let me set this up for whomever. I believe in abortion under three circumstances: 1) victim of rape, 2) victim of incest, and 3) to save the "life" not lifestyle of the mother. Abortion has become a form of post-facto birth control. If you don't use protection and get pregnant, no biggie just abort the problem.

People use the stance that "It's a woman's body and therefore her decision. Government has no authority over a woman's body." If you believe in this argument, then does that mean you support prostitution, drug use, or suicide too? It's her body and therefore her decision and government has no authority over a woman's body.

Neal-

That's twice in two weeks now that you have told folks to not protest something they cannot change - the TeaParties and Abortion.

Why do you care? Seriously?

Notre Dame can do as they please. Be open-minded Neal. You don't have to agree with their reasoning, just their ability/right to protest the visit.

They are a catholic Univ - Catholics don't believe in birth control let alone abortions. What do you not understand about the simple extrapolation?

If he were a man? Wow, you really do hate the guy, don't you?

I'll assume you don't mean that literally, Joyce, but just that he isn't a stand up person. And speaking of which, you never did admit defeat in that thread from the other day. The one where you and Boortz both made untrue claims. I can't blame you for bailing on that one, it was a losing battle for you and anyone else who wanted to defend Neal's lie.

http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/03/another-dont-let-a-crisis-go-t.html#comments

Notre Dame is a private Catholic institution, and abortion is a grave sin in Catholic teaching - in fact, in any really Christian view. So it would be outrageous and hypocritical for Notre Dame to honor anyone who supports aborting babies - or burning Jews or lynching blacks or raping women. But I've always sensed that Boortz is basically a redneck with all the typical redneck prejudices, including anti-Catholicism. Ah, but he's just a libertarian, you see? Except when it comes to things he doesn't approve, such as smoking or driving without seatbelts. Then he's all for unlimited regulation. The fact that he doesn't want to regulate abortion simply indicates that he supports the practice. No big surprise there. All he cares about is cash - the Fair Tax, and that's it. Oh, and private schools too. I forgot. Except when private schools disagree with his ignorant stiff-necked biases. Then he's not so supportive of them. The conservative movement is a pitiful, helpless giant precisely because it is led by mean mediocrities like Neal Boortz.

Neal,

Please make up your mind about this abortion topic. I have read your Nealz Nuze and, since I haven’t heard your on air discussions, I can only assume that you have discussed the Notre Dame/Catholic/Abortion issue on the air. You state on the air that abortion is an off-limits topic. You state that you will have all email regarding abortion blocked from your view. Yet you continue to instigate contention from the pro-life listeners by making statements like "give this abortion nonsense a rest" or by insisting to misstate the position as anti-choice rather than pro-life. (If you believe the terms to be synonymous, try the reverse for the other point of view: anti-life versus pro-life).

You say no discussions about abortion. This is a decision you made, please stick to it or change your decision. However, do not take pot-shots at those people who have a different point of view than yours and then retreat behind the abortion-is-off-limits rule you just violated.

Please be honest about the issue and make up your mind, do you want a discussion or not. If you do, then have the discussion. If not, then don't discuss it. Otherwise, what conclusions can your listeners come to about you other than you are hypocritical about this topic? Keep in mind, you could have simply stated that: Controversy surrounds Notre Dame, a Catholic based University, as to whether President Obama should deliver the commencement address based on his political stances on abortion and stem cell research that are in opposition to those views held by the Catholic Church.

Regarding abortion, stick to the factual presentation rather than interjecting opinion and be respectful of each point of view. Is this something you are willing to do?

It makes no sense to debate Neal on the issue of abortion because Neal lives in a world of politics. In Neal's world, morality has no place. There is no right or wrong -- just what is politically expedient. He cannot even conceive of a situation in which people would make decisions or back causes based on morality instead of political expediency. He's like the guy who, upon seeing a giraffe exclaimed, "There ain't no such animal!" His mind simply cannot grasp the concept of someone having a moral compass.

Neal sees abortion as a purely political issue. He believes it costs his side (i.e., the GOP) votes to be against abortion. Therefore, opposition to abortion cannot be tolerated.

BTW, I KNOW that Neal claims he is not a Republican. But the positions he takes are virtually indistinguishable from the Republican establishment. He walks like a duck & quacks like a duck (especially quacks like a duck) but he says he is not a duck...

It seems to be the growing trend around the world. Forget what the Chruch believes, maybe they are just as sick of him as the rest of the world is becoming.

You can obsess over the Fair Tax (which will unfortunately never pass either) and let us lunatics obsess over protecting life. Taxes vs. life, you decide which is more important. I have a feeling there were a lot of people that said the colonies would never obtain independence, black people would never be free or women would never vote and that they should obsess over something they could change. Neal, you might be right about it never changing but the fact of the matter is that it is worth fighting for. The abortion issue today deals with a person’s right to life from fertilization all the way to natural death. Neal, I will have your back when they come to “put you down” b/c “they” have decided you are too old and don’t contribute anything to society. You would probably laugh and say that a lot of people feel that way about you now!

Obama spearheaded and promoted infanticide while a member of the IL Assembly. This is a Catholic University based upon the principle that life is sacred. The day this stops meaning something is the day everything loses meaning. Some things are not negotiable.

The Fair Tax will never happen either considering that the tax code in not so much about funding the legitimate rolls of government, but instead redistributing income from producers to people who see no issue with a President with the most anti-life stance in our history.

If they were going to make their stand against Obama's position on Abortion/Stem Cells, they shouldn't have invited him. ND can't rescind it now. It's not like Obama's position has changed since the invite was extended.

Yes, ND has a "tradition" of inviting the new POTUS to speak at commencement (not sure if Clinton was invited, but all since Carter have been. Clinton was only one not to speak, I think).

I can't help but think that ND is worried about the "race card" being played if they didn't invite Obama.

OK, so you're not religiously driven; I think I get that. But how can a Libertarian reasonably argue that fighting abortion is nonsense? Is fighting murder nonsense?

Consider this: pro-choicers like to use the whole 'my body, my choice' argument for their right to abort. Well, what defines their bodies? I hope they aren't counting on the DNA. The unborn child's DNA will always be different from the mother's DNA. Different DNA=different person. Or else we have to throw out countless convictions and acquittals in our court system that have been based on the very same kind of evidence. Abortion is one person taking another's life, often for nothing more than convenience.

Bastiat argued that Law is best used to prevent injustice, and indeed that is its only true purpose. Injustice includes the removal of someone's life, liberty, or property without due process. What offense does an unborn child commit to deserve to lose everything it has and ever will have? How is the Law not being turned away from its true purpose when it is used allow this travesty?

I wish Neal would either stop talking about abortion or just man up and allow people to respond to his comments on it. He continuously takes snide, petty little swipes like this one at those of us who believe it to be murder. He refuses to take calls on the subject, which I suppose is his right since it's his show. But just because it's his right to hide behind his pulpit doesn't mean it isn't cowardly.

Abortion is one thing but unfettered abortion as a means of birth-control and partial-birth abortion are completely different. Furthermore, from what I can tell, Obama's voting history indicates support for infanticide. Not cool, Neal.

Neil, take your own advice and don't talk about abortion. Notre Dame is a private Catholic College with students and alumni who foot the bills. They can change policy.

Don't expect to see this posted, but your intellectual inconsistency on this issue forever relegates you to the back benches of talk radio.

You can obsess over the Fair Tax (which will unfortunately never pass either) and let us lunatics obsess over protecting life. Taxes vs. life, you decide which is more important. I have a feeling there were a lot of people that said the colonies would never obtain independence, black people would never be free or women would never vote and that they should obsess over something they could change. Neal, you might be right about it never changing but the fact of the matter is that it is worth fighting for. The abortion issue today deals with a person’s right to life from fertilization all the way to natural death. Neal, I will have your back when they come to “put you down” b/c “they” have decided you are too old and don’t contribute anything to society. You would probably laugh and say that a lot of people feel that way about you now!

Boortz - don't tell only part of the truth about this controversy. The people opposed to Obama speaking at Notre Dame object to more than just Obama's position on abortion. How do you feel about Obama's position on federal funding for stem cell research???? Somehow, I think you might actually have something in common with the protesters that you claim to despise.

I agree with you on this. If it was going to become illegal, shouldn't it have happened with Republicans had the majority a few years ago. It didn't happen then and it isn't going to happen now.

I'm glad that the students and faculty are taking a stand for something they believe in. I agree that abortion will never be illegal, and I don't think it should be. However, I think it's important that Notre Dame stands up for its principles. It's another good reminder that a lot of people aren't happy with Obama and his policies. Remember how many times George Bush's presence was protested at various universities. Liberals have no problem standing up for what they believe in. Conservatives need to have that same dedication.

"Obsess about something you can actually change". Like the tax code, right Neal?

You tilt against that windmill, and let the Catholics take care of their own concerns, OK?

When will we give it a rest ? When those of you morons that see killing babies as nonsense let us make it illegal nation wide.