You know its said, but as usual you mis the point.....so next time you have a thought, please just let it go!

Copyleft: you are exactly right. We have serious problems so why in the world would a congressman introduce H.R. 45? Guess that distraction is okay with you?

How interesting! Those who are so concerned about my privacy that they want to prevent the CIA from listening to my conversations with terrorists now want to make my most intimate medical details readily available to about 5 billion computers worldwide in a nanosecond.
With all due respect to Chris, who seems to believe what he says about HIPAA, let me flush some daylight into his case. I have worked - since long before HIPAA was passed - for a vendor which provides financial services to medical businesses. We are NOT under HIPAA regulation. We regularly require details down to the level of individual patients' records as a necessary part of what we do. SSN's and birthdates flow across my desk every day. Because my fellow employees and I are honest and trustworthy, none of this information has escaped this office. We shred discards before the building janitorial staff arrives. If Chris and his fellow Pollyannas think ANYONE in government is to be trusted with instant electronic access to such information, then they are either still in elementary school or have completely insulated their medical office from reality. Worse, HIPAA is, in fact, a gross overstepping of Article I. and II. of the Constitution along with severe violations of several amendments such as I. and XIV. Chris, I notice even your argument denies the pragmatic utilitarian rationale in favor of this gross privacy intrusion when you point out its minimal usefullness even to HCP's. If that is so, WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR BETTERS IN D.C. WANT IT !?!
The SwindleUS bill is about more money and power in the control of DC.
HIPAA is about more power for those in DE with the J. EDGAR HOOVER mindset.
You National Socialist co-dependent facilitators are quite troublesome with your naive faith in this spendthrift government of tax cheats.
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The bill is scary to be sure, and needs to be fought tooth and nail. However, the assertion that we should fear it because patients with Alzheimers might lose their 2nd amendment rights is pretty crazy. I'm about as pro-gun as they come, but patients with Alzheimers dementia should not have access to firearms.

Granted the Act is disturbing, but Gun Owners of America is a shame orginization. It only looks out for a small segment of the population and ostracizes the rest.

I disagree with the actions that will be taken to "stimulate" our economy. However, we all need information on the counter-arguments to our less-government cause.

The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act states what health information can and can not be released to who, insurance companies can get some so they know what they are billed for, but not as much as the patient can get. The health care providers, or HCPs(doctors, physicians assistants, nurse practitioners), can get the most.

I work in the laboratory of a government-run health care facility, if I tell anyone other than a health care provider or a nurse(to tell the HCP) a lab result, I am in violation of federal law. HIPAA also mandates that only those that need to know a particular piece of medical information may have access to it. I work in the lab, so the computer system that tracks tests and prescriptions does not allow me to see what even my own prescriptions are. All that is accessible to me is the reason for an appointment, like "sore throat" or "personal reasons," and that is only available if I am ordering a test in the system for the HCP. Even Health Care Providers have limited access to what other doctors have done, especially doctors notes.

No matter what you think of government health care, that law is taken vary seriously, as it can result in licenses to practice nursing or medicine, or certification to do any other job in the medical field being revoked.
Unless there is a provision in a law that allows an exemption from HIPAA guidelines, anyone who provides prescription information to non-medical persons is risking their career and liberty.

Those that know that they are Socialists tend to be smart, I don't want them to win a public debate because they drop this information on a fellow Libertarian that has not had the time to research the laws overseeing our medical system.

Let's not forget our Southern-border-war. Phoenix is #2, only behind Mexico City, in kidnappings. There was even video of a guy defending his property, and himself, against guys with AR15s. ABC recently did a report on the kidnappings. Now with Porkulus, anyone that has ever been prescribed any psychotropic, can have their 2nd Amendment rights unilaterally denied. These marxists truly aim to disarm the populace.

From my cold, dead hands, Nancy.

first, I am a firm believer in our right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of defending ourselves against those who would seek to deny our God given rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

That being said, I do think that there are indeed circumstances where gun ownership should be restrained such as in cases of a history of domestic violence or other felonious behaviour, mental illness (such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, etc), drug or alcohol addiction, or being prescribed medications that could lead to unpredictable behaviour. In most of these cases, one should be able to be removed from the "no ownership list" upon proof of a clean bill of health. This, I believe is a common sense approach.

Nevertheless, the government should not be allowed to dictate what sorts of guns we own, how much ammunition, what caliber, ammo capacity, etc.

Lets see:

Lets not talk about how many people are saved because of hand guns!

Lets not talk about how many people are not robbed becaus of hand guns!

Lets not talk about how many millions of people own hand guns that never commit a crime with one!

Lets not talk about all the hand gun laws on the books that goverment does not enforce!

Lets most diffently not talk about what happens when you take guns away from people. Like in Australia & England where crimes like muggings, robbery, murder and home invasion all went up.

You go ahead and live in a dream world that tells you if got rid of the guns people would not kill each other. Its been said that domestic violance would go to almost nothing. Really? Just a couple of months ago we had a guy in Atlanta kill his wife and kids, WITH A CLAW HAMMER!

And last, I want to hear the LIBS excuses when there are still drive by shootings.......once again, heres a law that is nothing more then somebody pushing their belief on everybody else. Not to mention that if passed, will create alot of criminals out of honest people, because they are not going to give up their guns, not while you let the bad guys keep theirs!