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"WHO CARES ABOUT BEING UNCONSTITUTIONAL?"

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Neal Boortz
@ November 26, 2008 8:18 AM
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That question comes from an elected official in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. That person would be Tonya Payne, a Democrat member of the Pittsburgh City Council. Apparently there has been brouhaha in Pittsburgh concerning the right to bear arms. It would be a little thing called the Second Amendment ... not that this woman has heard of it. I wonder what she would score on that little civics quiz we talked about yesterday?

Anyway, Tonya and her fellow council members approved legislation that would require anyone to report a lost or stolen firearm within 24 hours. If not reported, the person would face a fine. You see, right now in Pennsylvania there is a state ban on local laws on "the transfer, ownership, transportation or possession" of guns. The question is whether that extends to reporting lost or stolen firearms.

So that's when Tonya, who can't seem to wrap her bureaucratic head around the concept, comes up with this line: "Who really cares about it being unconstitutional?"

She goes on to say, "This is what's right to do, and if this means that we have to go out and have a court battle, then that's fine ... We have plenty of dead bodies coming up in our streets every single day, and that is unacceptable."

So according to Tonya, it is okay to defy the Constitution if your city councilwoman thinks that "it is the right thing to do." Is this the type of respect for the Constitutional law that we can expect from a Barack Obama administration? Remember, under an Obama administration with Obama appointed judges ... the Constitution is just a formality, what really matters is making sure that judges rule the way they feel is "right."



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  • guns
    If u have not already, and u are fair minded...read the Communist Manifesto of the early '60's. And then make a decision on the ((&%*&*^) that want the Citizens NOT to have guns. Who won Cold War? How about the Scums in DC that want take away guns PASS NEW LAWS so the Scums using guns are gone forever.???? Or, let them live in the dangerous hoods without guns or bodyguards??? Wake up America.
  • CONSTITUTION
    WOW! What a statement. I bet it would be important to her if she was denied the right to run for office because she's female and black. And then was denied the right to due process because of her race. Or if the the government sent in its troops to search her house without a warrant for speaking her mind. I am sure she would be screaming for her constitutional rights in those circumstances. Unfortunately, she thinks the Constitution works like a menu -- I'll have a number 1 with option 4, six, and 14, but hold the 2. So other uninformed politicians know, it doesn't work that way.
  • earl the pearl, honey
    "Hypocrite" ends in an "e," the V.P.'s name is spelled C-h-E-n-e-y, Boortz did co-WRITE the book, and the embedded tax is not actually an "income tax." Plus what the heck are you talking about, "enslavement...by the international banking leaches [leeches?] via the income tax"??

    Goodness, don't let your rage put your brain on hold.
  • Constitutionality
    "Some animals are a little more equal than others." The day has arrived.
  • Boortz fans fringe nuts!
    Boortz fans are fringe right nuts, and the left has their fringe nuts, guess it is comical they make a pair! The key is the middle, the one which does the work, gets things done, most of us americans fall into the moderate, middle, whether they be republican, democrat or independant, the right and left are merely nuts, useful for the middle and used by both!
  • Civics
    Well, I don't know about you guys, but I scored a 93% on the civics quiz. Not too bad.

    www.offeringcommonsense.blogspot.com
  • Rights Stand or Fall Together
    Without compelling force in the hands of citizens to lawfully protect themselves and to serve as an extra "check & balance" on government, the rest of the Constitution is effectively reduced to a piece of paper.
  • Tonya Payne
    I just wrote Tonya Payne asking her to clarify her statement. I think everyone should follow suit and show her who really DOES care about it being unconstitutional!

    http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/district6/html/district_6_feedback.html
  • Not Eligible? No matter....
    The Ineligible-Affirmative-Action-President-Elect O'Bama will be inaugurated regardless of whether or not he is qualified under the Constitution.

    The fundamental premise of affirmative action is that, because the color of one's skin is black, that one cannot and need not meet the standards prescribed by law.

    The corollary to affirmative action is that those with black skin are inferior, that they cannot meet legal standards, and so, out of fairness and the need to meet racial quotas, everyone should just lay standards aside and, shucks, forget about equal justice under the law.

    If I were black, I would be insulted, as many blacks of principle are indeed insulted.
  • Anti-gun asshat
    I wonder how Congresscritter Payne would feel if we disregarded the 13th, 14th, 15th, and 19th Amendments.
  • "Who cares about it being unconstitutional"
    Presidential and congressional disregard for fundamental constitutional rights goes back to Lincoln disregarding habeas corpus. And when the supreme court upheld MCCain Feingold it became quite clear that even our top legal experts have no real appreciation for our fundamental human rights.
  • Now you're concerned about the Constitution?
    The Bush administration tore apart the 1st Amendment with his stupid "Free Speech Zones".
    Every square inch the the US of A is a Free Speech ZOne!

    Bush trampled all over the 4th Amendment with his warrant less wiretaps and unlawful searches under the guise of protecting us from terrorism. The Bush administration is illegally spying on Americans.
    And now when some council woman wants to ban guns we see this outrage over the Constitution being violated?
    You can't pick and choose our rights. All of our rights need to be protected for all people.
    And now, all of a sudden, those powers that the Republicans took for themselves are now going to the Democrats. Of course, all of you are now concerned for your rights because the "other" will have them now.
    The Republicans started this slippery slope and the time has past to stop it. Now the Liberals have the power, and we have to pay for it for not standing up and stopping the Conservatives from taking it.
    Pay back is a beach.
    None of you have any idea what it means to be an American and that our rights have to be defended always and from all sides.
  • Hypocrit!!
    Where was your indignation when King Bush and Emperor Chaney used the Constitution as toilet paper! You self-righteous, babbling,idiot!! I am so sick of your wasting a perfect opportunity to correct the mistake of income taxation in preference of grandstanding about divisive topics that are irrelevant to the core issue of the enslavement of the American people by the international banking leaches via the income tax. Why are you not calling for the business community to revolt against the plague of the self appointed, entitled oligarchy. You are minion of these powerful fools. And even as they destroy this nation. Your railing against the "tax cut" check as welfare check to those who do not pay income taxes is so hypocritical it is sad. You did wright the Fair Tax Book, then how do ignore the embedded tax, you idiot!! Everyone pays income taxes!!!
  • Unconstitutional
    I wonder if Ms. Payne would use the same line of reasoning in the People's Republik of Kalifornia? Since a large majority thought it was "the right thing to do" in supporting prop8
  • The Quiz
    It seems like a whole lot of people were asleep in high school government class. I scored a 92% with only a high school diploma and some college courses.

    Why is it important to know about the Constitution? If you can't figure that out you are too stupid to listen to Boortz. Give someone else your radio.
  • Repubs vs. Democrats
    Uh, they are both pretty much the same party any longer. The elected president has little to do with anything. Vote third party. And one term Neal hates but need to be studied "Federal Reserve."
  • Amazing Boortz advocates constitutional convention!
    I got the biggest laugh yet, listening to Boortz advocate a constitutional convention to abolish 16th amendment, term limits for senators, congressman, guess delusions of granduer do abound, Boortz and his fringe element cost the republican party the last two elections and he really in some delusion thinks he can muster the votes to abolish a constitutional amendment, term limits, guess one has to say ignorance truly is bliss, since right now Boortz/Ingraham/Hannity/Oreilly and company on hate radio, are being thrown under the republican bus, blamed for their defeat, debacle, in this last election, just how they think they can muster anyone to follow them but a few fringe nuts is laughable, how funny!
  • Saying that guns.........
    ......cause crime is like saying pencils cause grammatical errors. When are these anti 2nd amendment people ever going to get it. Unbelievable.
  • Who cares?
    If the Constitution doesn't matter, let's shut her the hell up, seize all her posessions and hang her without benefit of trial.
  • Thanks Fred!
    And Happy Thanksgiving to you too Kitty. And to all of you as well(even Brad). I figured folks either didn't see there was a part 2 to my original post, or didn't know the significance of 1/21/09.
    (This is a space between paragraphs)
    Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is one well armed sheep contesting the vote.
  • dumbocrats - lieberals
    Since when does a single Democrat lieberal in office today care one tiny bit about the constitution, unless of course it involves changing it to adapt to their current world view?
    Truth is, Democrats have disdain for the constitution and this nation and have worked, at least since the Vietnam war, to fight the constitution.
    Gun bans don't work and are unconstitutional, but who cares when poor uneducated morons vote for them because they think gun bans work? Who cares that people die from gun crimes in Chicago (where I live) every day? Jesse "the race pimp" Jackson leads marches on gun stores and gun manufacturers while talking about how evil guns are. Meanwhile, the non-law abiding citizens have them, use them, and are more than happy to know that residents in Chicago are completely disarmed. No wonder there are so many home invasions, muggings, rapes, murders, and robberies here!
    Dumbocrats only want to change the constitution when it serves their needs. As far as I can tell, their needs consist of:
    1) a need to be elected
    2) a need to become a celebrity.

    The woman elected to the States Attorney position in Cook County, a position that requires her to be the #1 law enforcement officer in the County, ran on a platform that included her statement that she "does not believe in the 2nd amendment."
    Read more here:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS188898+20-Oct-2008+PRN20081020
    But, she ran in Illinois, specifically cook county, and had two prerequisites of a guaranteed election win:
    1) she is a minority
    2) she is a looney, lefty liberal democrat.
  • The Constitution
    As Bush the Son once said, it is just a piece of paper.

    And as I have always said, it has more interpretations than the book of Revelation.

    Only congress can declare war!

    yeah. right.

    Unitary Executive. Barack Hussein Obama.

    Goes together like ham and eggs doesn't it?
  • Uh, duh...
    Kitty,

    Chris was being sarcastic. That doesn't always come through in a text comment, but it was pretty obvious.

    As for Ms. Payne, clearly she needs to be taught about incentive: All this bill will do is create a loophole for the criminals to report their "stolen" guns, and criminalize the law-abiding gun-owners who do not report stolen guns (something they may not discover until the police show up at their door).

    The ramifications of these laws requiring the immediate reporting of a stolen gun are awful. We have always had a system where the failure to act has not been a criminal offense.

    Would I report my gun stolen? Yes, as long as I knew it had been. Would I ever, on a jury, convict someone of this law?

    NOT. ON. YOUR. LIFE.
  • SECOND AMEMDMENT
    THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE PROTECTOR OF THE ENTIRE CONSTITUTION. THIS WOMAN IS OUT OF HER MIND. IT IS TIME FOR REAL CHANGE. BUT WHO WILL START IT IS IS UP TO US AS AMERICANS TO STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS OF THIS COUNTRY
  • I didn't do too badly
    81.2%. of course my major in college was criminal justice, which covered a lot of this. So I should probably be ashamed I didn't do better.
  • Who cares....constitution
    Can't wait for a reply ! copied and pasted the article into Tonya Payne's e-mail site !
  • Tonya's Ignorance
    It's too bad these people are allowed to hold office. Aren't elected officials given an oath to uphold and protect the Constitution? I guess if the get their way, that too will be gone.
  • Apologies to Chris
    I just read your comment again. I guess I need some remedial absorbtion training. Took me reading it twice to figure out you were joking. Sorry and Happy Thanksgiving!
  • Constitution, Tonya and Guns
    Hey you, CHRIS! Remedial class now in session - we are NOT a democracy. Tonya, what a looper - dead bodies "popping up" all over the place. Sigh, it ain't the guns, it's your thug populaltion.
  • The 2nd Amendment is the 2nd for a reason (as opposed to a later one). The Founding Father's knew that in order to be really free the people must have the means to over throw an out of control government if/when necessary.....not to mention the RIGHT to self protection...
  • WTF?
    I'm sorry, but a statement like that from an elected official is borderline treason.
  • Re: Brians Clueless
    Obama may have similar views, but he has nothing to do with this story. This woman's ignorant statement has nothing to do with Obama and I find it, although much less so, ignorant to take any ridiculous statement a liberal makes to go on a rant about how Obama is going to ruin our country. This type of thinking is similar to how liberals treat Bush and you lose credibility when you blindly attack a person in this manner instead of attacking their policies.
  • The only thing more pathetic than...
    ...officials like this woman is the fact that there are enough fools to elect such people in the first place. The government schools have laid waste our birthright. Sad.
  • Constitution, conventions and Second Amendment
    The Constitution says it is the supreme law of the land, but it too often ignored or twisted.
    The Supreme Court upheld the Second Amendment in HELLER, but the Brady bunch has latched onto a few words that said they had not decided anything beyond the limited Washington DC law to push for more gun control.
    Neal wants a constitutional convention to get the Fair Tax, bad move, because a constitutional convention can not be limited.
    You get a convention and the entire present Constitution and Bill of Rights are up for change by the mob.
    Careful what you wish for.
  • Stupid is as stupid does....
    Funny how the only presidential candidate to advocate returning to a Constitutional Government was ridiculed by Mr. Boortz as well as other big media types, now we all pretend that the Constitution matters.
  • Hey Brad
    I passed the civics test, but you failed the sarcasm test. Did you read the WHOLE post???
  • Another Pathetic Excuse for an Elected Official
    We'll have to put up with a lot more of this in the future. Does she realize it is the constitution that protects her right to be not care about the constitution. Wonder what she sould say if she were told she could not have an opinion.
  • Constitutional - Unconstitutional
    It's amazing how the Constitution doesn't mean a thing until they get an idiot judge, like the one in Florida who ruled that the law legally established preventing adoption by gay couples was unconstitutional. We need to wake up people. Judges are arbitrarily making rulings on the constitution and we can't do a damn thing about it. We are losing the battle to idiot liberal minded judges who are ruling from the BAR. Maybe we all need to read the book of Judges in the bible and study what happened when the judges ruled in biblical times. History does repeat itself. Wake up - Wake up - Wake up!!!!!!
  • Democracy
    James, my apologies, I was addressing Chris's comment
  • Pathetic Excuse for an Elected Official
    I guess we have just found our latest Golden Pansy Award winner! What a pathetic excuse for an elected official she is.
  • No, the Constitution has not been relevant for a long, long time.

    Don't you know it's just an old, yellow piece of paper that hangs in a museum somewhere?

    The United States of America. It used to be a nice little country.
  • Cons
    The Constitution is simply an outdated piece of paper that should have no bearing on a modern global society.

    Hey just going with the flow.
  • Democracy
    James, obviously you flunked the civics test also. We are NOT a democracy. If we were, abortion would be illegal, same-sex marriage would be illegal, the global warming BS would be outlawed. All of those things that the majority of our country doesn't believe in would be illegal. And prayer would be allowed in school. Fortunately, for you, we are not a democracy. We live in an democratic republic, where the your minority views are actually represented.
  • She's a nut
    What she doesn't understand is that my gun is to keep whack jobs like her from taking my gun...... It's simple when you think about it.
  • What Constitution?
    I'm not sure the last time the majority of lawmakers had any respect for the constitution. Just look at the long list of laws that should never pass constitutional muster, from social security to no child left behind to the "public's airwaves". This lady simply voiced the opinion of most lawmakers...

    http://iamtheeviltwin.spaces.live.com
  • Brian's clueless
    The Constitution gets circumvented by liberals when it's convienient for them. Obama's mindset is very similar to Tonya's. Expect more where that came from when his regime takes over. THAT'S what it has to do with Obama.
  • Who Cares About the Constitution?
    Well, Tonya, maybe since you are black, you of all people, should care for our laws rather than have the mentality of "this is what I feel is right to do."

    I'm only in my 30's; however, I know history and didn't many people "feel the right thing to do" several decades ago was to have blacks sit at the back of the bus, drink from seperate fountains, not be allowed to vote, etc. What saved you from that? I think a few important laws were passed in 1964 and 1965 that helped you with that, huh?

    The ignorance of these Obama supporters is astonishing.
  • Obamination!
    Greasing the skids to the invasion of the BOG!

    Prepare to be assimilated by the BOG. Resistance to Obamination is futile. BOG Brother is watching.

    George Orwell was entirely correct in Nineteen Eighty-four but for misspelling BOG Brother's name.

    The collective's conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.
  • Guns, knives, baseball bats
    What Ms Payne needs to understand is that the punks that are shooting each other are merely using the most efficient method available. If guns were not available, they would be using something else. The basic cause of violence in the cities is a total disregard for the rule of law. The Constitution is the backbone of our system of laws. Ms. Payne wants to pour gasoline on a fire. She must be a democrat.
  • Civics Quiz
    I'm so disappointed :(

    I only got 66% correct. How could that have happened? I feel reeeely stoopid.
  • Brian's Comment
    If you followed anything that the Messiah said, you'd know what this had to do with Obama. His whole lament on redistributing wealth and how the Constitution gets in the way. That's a big problem for Libs, the Constitution gets in their way. That's why they legislate from the bench inventing rights that aren't there.....and circumvent the ones that are
  • Constitution
    Unfortunately, the Constitution has been trampled upon and ignored by the courts and government since it was first adopted. Now they barely even pay lip service to it.
  • Constitution
    Why do we need a Constitutuion anyway. We are a DEMOCRACY, and the people decide the laws. If 50.1% think guns are bad, they are gone.

    Oh wait, it's not January 21st yet. I apologize, the Constitution is still relevant.
  • WHO CARES ABOUT BEING UNCONSTITUTIONAL?
    What does this have to do with Obama?
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