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Rex, you can ignore the legal precedents set but, they apply. <br> <br> What's sad is you completely miss the fact that, on the technical aspects of the specific actions carried out by our people against detainees, you're right - there is no precedent. Wonder why that might be? Because, before now, no one in our govt allowed these things to happen. We only have legal precedent for cases where other countries did REMARKABLY similar things and we prosecuted them. We also have US precedent that was prosecuted.<br> <br> You question my viewpoint that waterboarding is severe - fine. As I said, all I'd ever ask is that a court be given these facts, be allowed to review our actions, and make a decision. I can't ask for more than that. <br> <br> And again, if you could provide any proof that this works, you'd be the first.<br> <br> BTW, the field manual applies to CIA now.<br> <br> Also, as I said, the manual states (as it should) that any practice that is questionable, should be looked at through the lens of the law.<br> <br> As to why we did it - why would we waterboard someone 183 times? because people like you believe in these techniques as a means to hear what you want to hear. <br> <br> These tactics are a means to gain knowledge you want to confirm, not new information. What was desired was information linking al queda to iraq. we knew it was there...we just needed to push hard enough. that's why these techniques are used to gain false confessions...they've always been used for these things...just never by us.<br> <br> we were wrong.<br> <br> this isn't science. it's history repeating itself. even the nazis had dr's present during torture...if you want to test the limits, it's important to have dr's available to measure your results.<br> <br> ""and lucky for detainees, those operatives do adhere to the law, guidelines and rules of engagement.""<br> <br> no, lucky for all of us. at least now.
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