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"First like Neal science itself is not a scam, the science of global warming is a scam. BIG DIFFERANCE! "<br> <br> The methods used to establish the theory of AGW are the same methods used in the rest of science. If these methods are fraudulent in one field, they must necessarily be fraudulent in all fields. Thus, by baselessly accusing climate scientists of attempting to defraud the entire world, you and Neal are indeed insinuating that the scientific discipline itself is a scam. <br> <br> "Alan, the reality is that this same crap was tried 30 years ago, only differance was that then we were all going to freeze to death. The was a clock that showed our doom in 1988. "<br> <br> It most certainly wasn't. The mythical global warming scare of the 70's (80's?) wasn't. There wasn't a single article published in the scientific literature at the time predicting a long term and dangerous cooling trend. Probably because most scientists at the time were too worried about the global warming they knew was taking place.<br> <br> "Two wuestions that have not been answered, I'm very serious:<br> <br> 1) Why is it so unthinkable to assume that this might me a cycle that the earth is going through?<br> 2) I this problem is totally man made and has nothing to do with the sun, we must be really bad people, because the ice caps on Mars were melting too."<br> <br> One of those isn't a question. In regards to the first, it's perfectly thinkable that what is happening right now might be a natural cycle. However, in order to demonstrate that it is you must first demonstrate *what* exactly sort of natural cycle it is, that this cyclewhatever it may beis of sufficient magnitude to have produced the bulk of the modern warming, and finally you must demonstrate that the physics which show man to be the cause of the current warming to be faulty. Do that, and I'll take your natural cycle theory seriously. <br> <br> As to your second "question," the ice caps on Mars aren't melting. One of them has shown some slight signs of melting. Scientists have said this possible warming is probably due to dust storms exposing Mars's dark surface, and isn't in any way related to the warming here on Earth.<br> <br> Until you and your fellow denialists prove that you are willing to engage is honest scientific discussion and stop baselessly accusing scientists of fraud, I and the rest of the world to continue to not take you seriously.
By Alan J